Theme: Civilization

  • RE: “Q: IS THE PERCEPTION THAT MORALITY IS DECLINING TRUE OR FALSE?” FYI: Not di

    RE: “Q: IS THE PERCEPTION THAT MORALITY IS DECLINING TRUE OR FALSE?”

    FYI: Not directly addressed in the article, but understood by some of us in the field:

    1) Wealth from the Industrial-Technological age creates opportunity for personal divergence in favor of biological bias – we do NOT ‘come together’ but separate. We don’t need to compromise because we are less directly dependent upon any agreement other than commercial.

    2) The Information age is exposing us all to (saturating us in) differences of sex, class, ability, intelligence, culture, race, and of course the differences in moral bias caused by each of those differences.

    3) Moral differences are insurmountable, genetic, and biological but reinforced by culture and ideosycratic experience.
    i)All moral differences originate in sex differences in cognition, valence, and bias: predicting empathizing(personal) in time, status seeking by evading responsibiilty for the commons on one hand and vs predicting systematizing(impersonal) over time, and status seeking by accumulating responsibilty for commons.
    ii) There are only three possible coercive institutions, with religion appealing to the empathic/inclusion/ostracization, and state/force appealing to the systematic/defense/offense.
    iii) All civilizations were forced into one of those institutions by local circumstance (Geography, means of production, competitors, heterogeneity, relation between warriors and workers).
    iv) All civilizations anchored on their first institution, whether State(China), Religion (MENA, India), Contract(law, Europe), Natural(Kin, Africa).
    v) all humans are indoctrinated into the metaphysics (presumptions) that emerged from that initial set of conditions and institutions. Metaphysical presumptions are almost impossible to modify. There is also minor evidence that we adapt (a bit) to suit our group’s historical strategy.

    4) Increase in numbers and diversity of exploration of moral confirmation bias, combined with excessive education (desocialization), insufficiently cooperative employment(desocialization), immigration(reduction in capacity for error detection and increase in tolerance for behavioral variation). The result is an increase in alienation that is sedated by entertainment and consumption. The result is a decline in social stuctures far worse than ‘bowling alone’, decline in mating competitino, decline in marriage, decline in reproduction. WHy? For most of history society = offspring, and the norms traditions and values necessary for raising children with the minimum moral (developmental, behavioral) hazard, and therefore the least cost to parents.

    5) What we are detecting is a competition for political attention to satisfy increasingly divergent moral biases, given the lack of need for consensus on moral biases outside of the commercial arena in which we produce income we use to specialize in fulfillment of our individual moral biases.

    6) The solution of course is rather obvious: retention of those few limited natural(human) rights at the level of central governments (Federations, Empires), then the devolution to regional, state, and local self determination of social and economic policy.

    7) in other words, Europeans had it right with many different states. The holy roman empire had it right with 350 principalities, and the USA had it right with the original constitution and the colonies that were an imitation of the 1000 years of experience in the holy roman empire, and the final invention of the modern rule of law state by england, finally encoded by the americans …. and increasingly destroyed in the postwar era by the various utopians (lefitsts).

    So yes, we are diverging in morality causing universal perception of relative decrease in morality. While at the same time our wealth has eliminated many previously useful forms of immorality when we were poorer.

    The result is that we are seeing an increase in demand for a larger number of smaller polities.

    And yet, the W.I.E.R.D. eurpeans assume that our high trust moral intuitions are normal ,when they are the opposite of normal – only a small part of our civilization practices truth before face, and the rest of the world practices either face before truth (asia), facelessness (MENA, where lying and cheating is heroic), and africa where the concept still doesn’t exist, except among the upper middle classes in a few countries (nigeria, ghana at the least).

    Cheers
    Curt Doolittle.
    The Natural Law Institute

    Reply addressees: @NAChristakis @DanTGilbert @Nature @a_m_mastroianni


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-08 01:23:16 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666616851609055234

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  • As a yankee I try not to make fun of my southern cousins despite the many opport

    As a yankee I try not to make fun of my southern cousins despite the many opportunities they give me. But I can’t contradict that morally, they are almost always correct no matter how … oddly …. they express it. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-07 17:05:06 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666491486152581122

    Reply addressees: @JymnEcrct @WerrellBradley

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666490782713274374

  • RT @RealJamesWoods: As brilliant as Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independen

    RT @RealJamesWoods: As brilliant as Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence is, it wasn’t an overnight stroke of the pen. A lengthy…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-07 16:49:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666487644161802242

  • “Q: Didn’t Rome do well as an Empire?”– Rome did well as an Empire for just und

    –“Q: Didn’t Rome do well as an Empire?”–

    Rome did well as an Empire for just under 200 yrs, from 27BC to the Antonine plague from 165AD to the reign of Commodus in 180 AD, then failing with the Imperial Crisis AD 235–284AD, and succumbing to Christianity and barbarians from 406 to collapse in 476AD, and eradication by the Justinian Plague in 541–549 AD, Which is one of the worst periods in human history.

    America did well for just over 140 so far.

    While the american separation from england, and the separation of eastern and western empires were caused in no small part by the slow pre-industrial speed of communication. And while climate and migrations paid a price in rome. We no longer have a communication problem, even if we do have a migration and reproduction problem.

    But as I’ve stated many times, there is a vulnerability to the group strategy of western civilization that feeds overexpansion and genetic decline that reverses the natural selection of western civ’s aristocratic demand for maximizing responsibility to increase our numbers, and decrease our cost of commons.

    IQ is necessary for western empires.

    Reply addressees: @Chris_Hafer101 @kanukistani


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-07 03:09:33 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666281209733758977

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  • You mean that the europe that committed suicide leaving it vulnerable to soviet

    You mean that the europe that committed suicide leaving it vulnerable to soviet conquest, that the US burned our vast economic advantage to rescue, but who instead of retaking responsibilty invested in unsustainable social programs, which provided the american left with the…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-07 01:56:18 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666262779374755843

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  • Q: “Can you clarify who you are referring to when you say, ”That is what the wo

    –Q: “Can you clarify who you are referring to when you say, ”That is what the world is trying to bring about?”–

    Sorry. Given the reduction of civilizational differences in information, econ, tech, and power, combined with the inability to defeat 4GW, the higher risk of 5GW to advanced economies, together resulting in the American desire (need) to withdrawal from world policing, or at least distribute the responsibility, the primary and secondary civilizations have begun doubling down on whatever strategy is suitable to creating their own strategic, political, economic, energy, and food security, given their stage of development.

    Ergo: the restoration of imperialism at the civilizational level where imperialism is an attempt to NOT engage in reciprocal (fair) free trade, nor be held to borders, nor human rights. France, Russia, Turkey, Iran, India, China, and the emergent civs of South America, Central Asia, and the chaos that is Africa are following rational incentives to exert imperial power over their regions so that they have self control over their futures.

    In other words ‘trying’ refers to following natural incentives.

    Cheers

    Reply addressees: @Chris_Hafer101


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-07 01:35:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666257629750996994

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  • FUTURE OF RELIGION RE: “I think religion…” IMO religion as we understand it is

    FUTURE OF RELIGION
    RE: “I think religion…”

    IMO religion as we understand it is dead except for the underclasses. And the underclasses are the greatest threat to civilization at present. So, we must find a non-false ‘religion’, and how to migrate from existing religions to it.

    I think we know it. I am not sure it’s a universalist religion – any more than any other religion has been. Why? Religion = Group Strategy = Civilization = Race = Geography under agrarianism. All extant major civilizational religions are agrarian.

    I’m not sure that post-agrarian religion will be all that similar to agrarian. I mean, marxism/leftism is just a reformation of Judaism. Secular humanism a reformation of Christianity. Islam hasn’t had its reformation. Nor have Hinduism or Buddhism. Naziism was the most modern european religion.

    We haven’t really seen any equivalent of European Stoicism – I thought Peterson was heading there but his illness ended his ability to tolerate that project.

    So that’s a huge intellectual project.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-06 16:26:55 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666119486536024066

  • (It’s easily explained if you understand semitic civilization and jewish culture

    (It’s easily explained if you understand semitic civilization and jewish culture, law, and http://religion.In fact most of their religion exists to justify exactly what the author of the quoted posts explained. Just as Islam exists to do the same.)


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-05 16:18:29 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665754976629424136

    Reply addressees: @Nefertiiti

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  • Art always has significance, but it may be good, neutral or bad. There is a rela

    Art always has significance, but it may be good, neutral or bad. There is a relationship between environment, architecture, art, craft, and wealth to produce that architecture, art, and craft. Right now movies are the great sucking sound (black hole) for art, and that institution…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-05 14:48:53 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665732430831951873

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  • RT @TruueDiscipline: A lot of people in Northern European derived countries thin

    RT @TruueDiscipline: A lot of people in Northern European derived countries think their values are universal, but they aren’t.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-06-05 14:28:06 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1665727199809249281