Theme: Causality

@Jerry1776 There was no creation. There was only evolution. There is no possibilty of a will outside of the organization of the universe. And as far as we can tell the universe is either eternal, eternally cycilcal, or the concept of sequence in time is irrelevant since there is no time without the universe itself.

Do you deny all the accumulated evidence of our observations, in order to defend your malinvestment in a jewish lie?

@Graphic@GeneralJackDRipper If you knew what you were talking about you’d know where do know where the first photon came from. 😉 We do not know yet (although we will rather soon) which of the universe cycles that started this iteration. (And that’s before we talk about whether time has a beginning or has no meaning outside of space time – so far it doesn’t.)

And that’s before we get to the fact that (a) there is no where or nothing to contain a deity (b) nowhere in the spectrum of energy for a deity to act.

And that’s before we get to the fact that we can’t find any evidence of a single miracle.

And that’s before we get to the fact that jesus was one of hundreds of so called prophets at the time.

And that’s before we get to the fact that the jewish method of lying is that of mothers providing comforting lies to children.

Of that the jewish method of creating the abrahamic religions depends on the vulnerability of humans to mothers comforting lies.

And that’s before we get to the fact that religious devotion appears to be a genetic weakness. And that the devotional behavior is identical to the addiction response.

But it doesn’t matter. Every single christian claim about the structure of the universe has been false. You just keep reaching in order to defend your self delusions by social cosntruction.

The clock is ticking. You’re being defeated world wide. Christianity is now a third world religion of people below the minimum IQ curve for mechanical operation and repair.

You are a sad pathetic group of losers being crushed by superior religions, philosophies, ideologies, and the painful truth of science.

There is only one lesson to learn: We know most of the fundamental laws of the universe and within a visible time horizon will know the rest. ANd those formal, physical, cooperative, and evolutionary laws are consistent and coherent, and complete. And they are all but hostile to life.

Jesus’ message was a counter-revolution against continuous defeat by superior peoples. Aryanism was the greatest revolution in history at that time. But instead of using the peasants for slave labor, it threatend to leave them behind in a cruel world of reason, evidence, and science. And as such jesus correctly identified the correct solution: Love in the present was the only method of tolerating evolution over time.

But the jews – liars all – created a cult of hatred of aryanism and aryans (whether european or iranic) out of what was a lesson in love instead.

@Graphic I can’t help you. We know the organization of the universe, and we know it’s approximate beginning and approximate end. Although until we know the underlying geometry we won’t know if anything can be done about it or ourselves.

We know why some people developed religion, some wisdom literature, and some people philosophy and some people science. We know why some people are prone to drug and alcohol abuse, we know why some people are prone to religiosity, and we know why some people are prone to be free of all of the above.

You need your addiction. That’s ok. But I don’t need it. A decreasing number of people need it. And its likely it will be replaced by something less absurd, but providing the same services.

So please don’t pretend you are even vaguely capable of such discussions. You aren’t. And you are wasting my time trying to protect the social acceptability of your addiction.

So stop wasting my time.