Theme: Agency
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“We have so far identified 162 gene variants that are correlated to higher intel
—“We have so far identified 162 gene variants that are correlated to higher intelligence and have calculated from what we know that there are at least 100 SDs up for grabs. … people with IQs of 1,600 are yet to come probably before AI.”— -
“We have so far identified 162 gene variants that are correlated to higher intel
—“We have so far identified 162 gene variants that are correlated to higher intelligence and have calculated from what we know that there are at least 100 SDs up for grabs. … people with IQs of 1,600 are yet to come probably before AI.”—
Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 23:58:00 UTC
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“We have so far identified 162 gene variants that are correlated to higher intel
—“We have so far identified 162 gene variants that are correlated to higher intelligence and have calculated from what we know that there are at least 100 SDs up for grabs. … people with IQs of 1,600 are yet to come probably before AI.”— -
“CURT, ARE COMPLEX IDEAS INACCESSIBLE OR DOES IT JUST TAKE SOME PEOPLE LONGER?”-
—“CURT, ARE COMPLEX IDEAS INACCESSIBLE OR DOES IT JUST TAKE SOME PEOPLE LONGER?”—
While it should take 110 IQ to pass university courses there are people with 100IQ that manage to do it. (not that they’re taking the hardest courses).
As I understand it, it takes a lot longer to learn what exists, longer to learn what must be calculated by substitution, and the meaningful barrier is invention of what does not exist yet.
In other words, to be very good at chess you have to play a lot, and learn a lot of increasingly complex patterns. To be very good at math you have to use it a great deal and be very good at increasingly complex patterns. To be good a programming, you have to use it a great deal and be very good at increasingly complex patterns.
The barrier for people is usually frustration and exhaustion in that learning to apply those patterns by intuition and permutation is actually beyond some people. You would be horrified below 95 at how hard it is for people to learn the most basic things.
I find most interesting is those children who are mentally retarded by because of their desire for approval, they will work endlessly to learn some simple thing that they can accomplish on their own.
The real problem we faces as a polity is the Dunning Kruger bias, which is that we tend to assume a little knowledge provides more understanding that it does. The example I understand best, is in the field I understand best, which is economics. In economics you can almost guarantee that the majority of economists will be wrong on any particular question of nuance. The reason being there are only four or five people who understand that question, and all of economics is counter-intuitive (which is why it’s so complicated). Yet all economists opine on some specialization that they are entirely ignorant of. This also mirrors the academic anchoring problem. In that, a survey of 1000 people on the street will yield better predictive results (of observable phenomenon) than the specialists will.
My greatest frustration is the “Island 120” group, which is people able to graduate from non-STEM courses but not STEM courses, and virtue signal that they belong to the island 120’s group, but who vastly overestimate their understanding and vastly over express their confidence. The 120’s are the range where you know enough to be dangerous by convincing a large body of people you know enough. (the media).
This behavior is equivalent to a cult where all members are convinced of their wisdom simply because they all believe the same nonsense. In my understanding of western civilization today, those people play a disproportionate role in information sharing – and most of what they think is nonsense.
Reality is always quite simple, it’s just often less pleasant than we imagine it to be.
-Cheers 😉
Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 22:08:00 UTC
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—“Curt, Are Complex Ideas Inaccessible Or Does It Just Take Some People Longer?”—
—“CURT, ARE COMPLEX IDEAS INACCESSIBLE OR DOES IT JUST TAKE SOME PEOPLE LONGER?”— While it should take 110 IQ to pass university courses there are people with 100IQ that manage to do it. (not that they’re taking the hardest courses). As I understand it, it takes a lot longer to learn what exists, longer to learn what must be calculated by substitution, and the meaningful barrier is invention of what does not exist yet. In other words, to be very good at chess you have to play a lot, and learn a lot of increasingly complex patterns. To be very good at math you have to use it a great deal and be very good at increasingly complex patterns. To be good a programming, you have to use it a great deal and be very good at increasingly complex patterns. The barrier for people is usually frustration and exhaustion in that learning to apply those patterns by intuition and permutation is actually beyond some people. You would be horrified below 95 at how hard it is for people to learn the most basic things. I find most interesting is those children who are mentally retarded by because of their desire for approval, they will work endlessly to learn some simple thing that they can accomplish on their own. The real problem we faces as a polity is the Dunning Kruger bias, which is that we tend to assume a little knowledge provides more understanding that it does. The example I understand best, is in the field I understand best, which is economics. In economics you can almost guarantee that the majority of economists will be wrong on any particular question of nuance. The reason being there are only four or five people who understand that question, and all of economics is counter-intuitive (which is why it’s so complicated). Yet all economists opine on some specialization that they are entirely ignorant of. This also mirrors the academic anchoring problem. In that, a survey of 1000 people on the street will yield better predictive results (of observable phenomenon) than the specialists will. My greatest frustration is the “Island 120” group, which is people able to graduate from non-STEM courses but not STEM courses, and virtue signal that they belong to the island 120’s group, but who vastly overestimate their understanding and vastly over express their confidence. The 120’s are the range where you know enough to be dangerous by convincing a large body of people you know enough. (the media). This behavior is equivalent to a cult where all members are convinced of their wisdom simply because they all believe the same nonsense. In my understanding of western civilization today, those people play a disproportionate role in information sharing – and most of what they think is nonsense. Reality is always quite simple, it’s just often less pleasant than we imagine it to be. -Cheers 😉 -
—“Curt, Are Complex Ideas Inaccessible Or Does It Just Take Some People Longer?”—
—“CURT, ARE COMPLEX IDEAS INACCESSIBLE OR DOES IT JUST TAKE SOME PEOPLE LONGER?”— While it should take 110 IQ to pass university courses there are people with 100IQ that manage to do it. (not that they’re taking the hardest courses). As I understand it, it takes a lot longer to learn what exists, longer to learn what must be calculated by substitution, and the meaningful barrier is invention of what does not exist yet. In other words, to be very good at chess you have to play a lot, and learn a lot of increasingly complex patterns. To be very good at math you have to use it a great deal and be very good at increasingly complex patterns. To be good a programming, you have to use it a great deal and be very good at increasingly complex patterns. The barrier for people is usually frustration and exhaustion in that learning to apply those patterns by intuition and permutation is actually beyond some people. You would be horrified below 95 at how hard it is for people to learn the most basic things. I find most interesting is those children who are mentally retarded by because of their desire for approval, they will work endlessly to learn some simple thing that they can accomplish on their own. The real problem we faces as a polity is the Dunning Kruger bias, which is that we tend to assume a little knowledge provides more understanding that it does. The example I understand best, is in the field I understand best, which is economics. In economics you can almost guarantee that the majority of economists will be wrong on any particular question of nuance. The reason being there are only four or five people who understand that question, and all of economics is counter-intuitive (which is why it’s so complicated). Yet all economists opine on some specialization that they are entirely ignorant of. This also mirrors the academic anchoring problem. In that, a survey of 1000 people on the street will yield better predictive results (of observable phenomenon) than the specialists will. My greatest frustration is the “Island 120” group, which is people able to graduate from non-STEM courses but not STEM courses, and virtue signal that they belong to the island 120’s group, but who vastly overestimate their understanding and vastly over express their confidence. The 120’s are the range where you know enough to be dangerous by convincing a large body of people you know enough. (the media). This behavior is equivalent to a cult where all members are convinced of their wisdom simply because they all believe the same nonsense. In my understanding of western civilization today, those people play a disproportionate role in information sharing – and most of what they think is nonsense. Reality is always quite simple, it’s just often less pleasant than we imagine it to be. -Cheers 😉 -
More another time. But yes, we all, worldwide, demonstrate group strategies at t
More another time. But yes, we all, worldwide, demonstrate group strategies at the top (male) and all demonstrate equalitarianism(female) at the bottom to weaken the top. They are not strategies of intent, but they are strategies of survival.
Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 21:00:03 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975476953682796549
Reply addressees: @hbdchick @TOOEdit
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975476381479047172
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@hbdchick @TOOEdit High IQ disaporics are diasporic because they could not develop institutions by which to hold land (and made genocide against their southern neighbors who produced iron), and had to specialize in very different skills, as did ancestor females who were portable between male groups
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975476381479047172
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@curtdoolittle
@hbdchick @TOOEdit High IQ disaporics are diasporic because they could not develop institutions by which to hold land (and made genocide against their southern neighbors who produced iron), and had to specialize in very different skills, as did ancestor females who were portable between male groups
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975476381479047172
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If that’s right we should see dimorphic differences, brain structure differences
If that’s right we should see dimorphic differences, brain structure differences, leading to verbal skill variation, moral intuition variation, greater gender variation, earlier or stronger asymmetric maturity,and differences in expression of aggression. And that is what we see.
Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 20:43:19 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975472740319875075
Reply addressees: @hbdchick @TOOEdit
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040
IN REPLY TO:
Unknown author
@hbdchick @TOOEdit (a) It’s actually High-Trust/Male/Agrarian vs Low-Trust/Female/Pastoral.
(b) Not sure genetic vs cultural, but as you’ve advocated it appears much more genetic.
(c) I’m pretty sure that major group differences are pedomorphism/neoteny + size of underclass + gender endocrine biasOriginal post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040
IN REPLY TO:
@curtdoolittle
@hbdchick @TOOEdit (a) It’s actually High-Trust/Male/Agrarian vs Low-Trust/Female/Pastoral.
(b) Not sure genetic vs cultural, but as you’ve advocated it appears much more genetic.
(c) I’m pretty sure that major group differences are pedomorphism/neoteny + size of underclass + gender endocrine biasOriginal post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040
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is not so much a philosophy as the results of science that I can no longer deny,
https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-personal-philosophy-as-it-relates-to-ethics-and-metaphysics-Why/answer/Curt-Doolittle?share=127d3364&srid=u4QvThis is not so much a philosophy as the results of science that I can no longer deny, and so I live according to the science – in large part because it is advantageous.
1. We are an expensive life form. Particularly our brains.
2. We must acquire, and we acquire at cost to ourselves.
3. All our emotions are nothing but reflections in state of that which we plan to, are in the process of, or have acquired an interest.
4. Cooperation is logarithmically more productive than any action an individual can take, and therefore we must cooperate to survive. (Possibly as much as ten thousand times as productive.)
5. People are purely rational, not moral or immoral but amoral: they cheat and try to acquire disproportionately from cooperation, they free ride, steal from, and prey upon others. This is why we demonstrate altruistic punishment of cheaters in all walks of life, even at high personal cost: to prevent defectors from cheating.
6. The optimum algorithm (really) for developing cooperation is to exhaust every opportunity for cooperation even from cheaters. They almost always come around, because it is always an advantage to come around. This was the entire message of christianity which was lost in the dogma. But it’s just science.
7. All our speech is merely a dance of negotiation so that we may create opportunities to acquire, do acquire, or preserve what we acquire. All of it is just signaling.
8. We are entirely incognizant of these behaviors because it is evolutionarily disadvantageous for us to be intuitively honest, honest with ourselves, and honest with others. This is the same reason we have many cognitive, social, and probabilistic biases in our genes. To keep us going when evidence would overwhelm us.
9. Most of the joy in life is playing this set of word games, cooperative games, and acquisition games with others so that we all acquire what we want as best we can without making others avoid us so that we can’t acquire what we want and need. This is why people commit suicide when they are lonely, and do not commit suicide when they are not.
10. Therefor the only rule of cooperation, of morality, and of law, is reciprocity: productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary cooperation with each other, and the only immoral actions are those that violate that moral rule by free riding, parasitism, theft, or predation. And that is why reciprocity is the basis of all traditional laws (and why it is not the basis of legislation).
This little list is the answer to nearly all of metaphysics, epistemology, psychology, sociology, ethics, and politics.Updated Mar 18, 2018, 7:16 PM
Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 19:16:00 UTC
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This is not so much a philosophy as the results of science that I can no longer
This is not so much a philosophy as the results of science that I can no longer deny, and so I live according to the science – in large part because it is advantageous. 1. We are an expensive life form. Particularly our brains. 2. We must acquire, and we acquire at cost to ourselves. 3. All our emotions are nothing but reflections in state of that which we plan to, are in the process of, or have acquired an interest. 4. Cooperation is logarithmically more productive than any action an individual can take, and therefore we must cooperate to survive. (Possibly as much as ten thousand times as productive.) 5. People are purely rational, not moral or immoral but amoral: they cheat and try to acquire disproportionately from cooperation, they free ride, steal from, and prey upon others. This is why we demonstrate altruistic punishment of cheaters in all walks of life, even at high personal cost: to prevent defectors from cheating. 6. The optimum algorithm (really) for developing cooperation is to exhaust every opportunity for cooperation even from cheaters. They almost always come around, because it is always an advantage to come around. This was the entire message of christianity which was lost in the dogma. But it’s just science. 7. All our speech is merely a dance of negotiation so that we may create opportunities to acquire, do acquire, or preserve what we acquire. All of it is just signaling. 8. We are entirely incognizant of these behaviors because it is evolutionarily disadvantageous for us to be intuitively honest, honest with ourselves, and honest with others. This is the same reason we have many cognitive, social, and probabilistic biases in our genes. To keep us going when evidence would overwhelm us. 9. Most of the joy in life is playing this set of word games, cooperative games, and acquisition games with others so that we all acquire what we want as best we can without making others avoid us so that we can’t acquire what we want and need. This is why people commit suicide when they are lonely, and do not commit suicide when they are not. 10. Therefor the only rule of cooperation, of morality, and of law, is reciprocity: productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary cooperation with each other, and the only immoral actions are those that violate that moral rule by free riding, parasitism, theft, or predation. And that is why reciprocity is the basis of all traditional laws (and why it is not the basis of legislation). This little list is the answer to nearly all of metaphysics, epistemology, psychology, sociology, ethics, and politics.