Theme: Agency

  • ” QUESTION: Hi Curt, if you don’t mind I’ve got a question on Sovereignty after

    —” QUESTION: Hi Curt, if you don’t mind I’ve got a question on Sovereignty after reading your recent posts.

    Is Sovereignty only achieved through combing agency and reciprocity (I think I’ve seen you say this somewhere)? In which case, thinking about this in terms of individualism vs collectivism:

    -Groups of people who lack individual agency, but act as a collective can only ever beg for what they want (the herd).

    -Individuals who possess agency, but are unwilling to reciprocate with one another will be unable to achieve results at scale (lone wolves).

    -Therefore it’s not individualism vs collectivism; it’s agency AND reciprocity which when combined creates Sovereignty (the pack).

    Not sure if I’m stretching things here?”—- Andy Lunn

    ANSWER:

    Um. (a) very well structured argument, (b) correct conclusion. (c) nice work! A+


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-05 11:55:00 UTC

  • INTUITIONS AS NEURAL ECONOMY Because of my work on artificial intelligence, I th

    INTUITIONS AS NEURAL ECONOMY

    Because of my work on artificial intelligence, I think of intuitions as regional differences neural economy.

    As far as I know very minor changes in rewards and frustrations produce HUGE accumulated differences in regional (functional network) dependence.

    Some people have the resource curse in neural economy, some people do not, and some people are resource poor, and worse, some have resource poor and very poor transport systems (white matter).

    And others have totally unconstructive asymmetries of reward and frustration….. lots to go wrong, many things need to go right.

    So it takes a great deal of training with some, and mere exposure for others…. and for others… its fucking impossible. They’re semi domesticated animals.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-05 11:51:00 UTC

  • AGENCY: YES SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ‘HUMAN’ AND LESS ‘ANIMAL’ THAN OTHERS —“By th

    AGENCY: YES SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ‘HUMAN’ AND LESS ‘ANIMAL’ THAN OTHERS

    —“By that you mean some people are not human( morality or physiology)?”— Natty Kanya

    Just as children do not… https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=290709538192610&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-05 11:50:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1037306978740133888

  • CURZON ON THE SCIENCE BEHIND STOIC DISCIPLINE —-“A great first thing to train

    CURZON ON THE SCIENCE BEHIND STOIC DISCIPLINE

    —-“A great first thing to train out of is embarrassment – one of the cardinal signs of lack of agency.”—- Andy Curzon

    I mean, if you wanna start with the first and most important step in ‘never take anything personally’ that’s the first step.

    —-“Be careful not to conflate the processes of ‘pushing away’ (to use the lingo) unhelpful thoughts with the action of redirecting. I do not believe redirecting to be possible, per se. I can only describe a parallel to this by the example of the pathological ‘self-esteem’ movement – or the counterproductive sales pitch of ‘follow your bliss’. One can not AIM for happiness or self-esteem because they are RESULTS of actions. One can not ‘aim’ for a specific thought – but one can ask questions. The practice of asking for something (a form of prayer) and allowing one’s trained ‘wisdom’ to answer it and receive feedback seems akin to the conjecture and refutation processes Popper espouses.”— Andy Curzon

    bingo.

    You cannot circumvent a network of information, you can only train the network of information to come to different conclusions through self-questioning. hence the value of achetypes (gods, demigods, heroes) especially those that are omnicient (can read your subconsious). These train you to role play in a dialog that retrains networks. It works.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-05 11:40:00 UTC

  • AVOID GETTING STUCK IN AGE-DEPENDENT NARRATIVES Aesop’s fables, Fairy Tales, Art

    AVOID GETTING STUCK IN AGE-DEPENDENT NARRATIVES

    Aesop’s fables, Fairy Tales, Arthurian Legends, Homer, the greek myths, are all not only helpful but possibly necessary. We mature from those to novels, then to biographies, then histories, then maybe economic histories, and then into the sciences.

    But some of us PEAK in life at some particular point and freeze – we all know high school kids who are still living in that world where peer-pressure was the only form of education that worked on them.

    And some of us continuously mature until very old age, precisely because peer pressure does not force us into conformity but into advancement.

    So I view nietzsche as a necessary critique for those that are not able to judge without sentimental and emotional associations.

    The human differs from the animal in distance from impulse and emotion. The adult differs from the child in further increase in distance. The sage differs from the adult in further distance.

    The point is to make use of STAGE SPECIFIC INFORMATION while not getting STUCK in childish pubescent, young adult stage – and continue to mature.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-05 10:18:00 UTC

  • NIETZSCHE, RAND, MARX, AND THE ADOLESCENT RIGHT There are a lot of young men who

    NIETZSCHE, RAND, MARX, AND THE ADOLESCENT RIGHT

    There are a lot of young men who are active on the right and they are all looking for an ideal to rally around because they lack the skill, sociability, talents, relationships, and resources to rally men by material outcomes.

    So I view fascination with Nietzsche like fascination with rand (or harry potter for that matter) as a necessary phase of young adulthood. A lack of maturity. And driven by a lack of sexual social economic and political market value.

    This small group of adolescent males otherwise unsuccessful in life due to lack of talent, skill, character, and resources, who attempt to persuade me to justify their urges for dominance that they cannot achieve in real life. And I won’t. Men will revolt and act on change not because some microscopic group of social malcontents want justification for their failure of market value, but because the social, economic, and political change is achievable by implementation of institutional change.

    Teaching young men on the internet is a bit like running a class in a fourth grade locker room. I assume however that these men will eventually own homes, have children, find gainful employment or run businesses and at that point grow from reading moral fictionalism to reading balance sheets, contracts, constitutions, and papers on business, economics, engineering and science.

    There is no difference between Marxists, Randians and Nietzscheans other than the degree of desperation and unsatisfied aggression.

    Rulers use law. Because they have the power to. Because the organized incentives of enough men to apply force to obtain that power.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-05 09:47:00 UTC

  • AGENCY IS NECESSARY FOR SOVEREIGNTY: OUR NEXT GREAT ENTERPRISE Agency is necessa

    AGENCY IS NECESSARY FOR SOVEREIGNTY: OUR NEXT GREAT ENTERPRISE

    Agency is necessary for sovereignty otherwise one cannot self insure. If you cannot self insure then others must insure you out of self defense. If others must insure you then you are dependent upon them as a child upon a parent. You are not sovereign agent, and cannot reciprocally insure those with agency – and you especially cannot insure them against yourself.

    Western civilization specialized in the continuous production of agency. We emphasize sovereignty. But sovereignty is something we grant one another through reciprocity. Agency over the self exists or it doesn’t – independent of others.

    Stoicism attempts to produce agency. All other religions do not – they produce avoidance or escapism – with shintoism the closest peer looking backward rather than forward, and the original Buddhism the closest ambition – mindfulness but not agency. And Buddhism does not maintain the western charter demanding heroism, and speaking truth regardless of the consequences to the dominance (competence) hierarchy.

    If you master Propertarianism (natural law) you will have intellectual agency – all human experience is then explicable in operational terms, and the world coherent and comprehensible. If you master stoicism (self authoring) then you will develop intuitionistic and emotional agency. If you maintain diet and physical fitness – particularly team sports – you will develop physical agency. If you exchange sovereignty with others who do the same, then you will be sovereign.

    Rome had almost completed the development of a new religion when the Abrahamists worked diligently to undermine the great aristocratic civilizations.

    The lesson of Constantine is never let anyone other than a member of a noble family that has retained noble status in marriage hold office – ever.

    The lesson of the Abrahamic revolt against civilization, is that we must suppress all forms of supernaturalism, sophisms (pseudoratioalism), and pseudosciences. And the only way to do that is the use of the LAW: the organized use of force to suppress imposition of costs upon the private and common, existential and informational, by using the courts as a market for truth, thereby empowering all people to suppress falsehoods.

    Which leads us to our charter:

    —“Europeans do not know how to live unless they are engaged in some great enterprise. When this is lacking, they grow petty and feeble and their souls disintegrate.”—José Ortega y Gasset, Spanish Philosopher

    This is our next great enterprise. To rid humanity of the abrahamic falsehoods wither they be supernatural, sophistry, or pseudoscience.

    We have incrementally suppressed the evil in mankind by forcible domestication of genes and behavior in the ancient world and in the modern.

    The revolt against us in the ancient world brought about a dark age – we were far too tolerant.

    The abrahamic revolt against us in the modern world using collectivist pseudoscience and postmodern sophism, and the systematic use of pilpul and critique in the reputation destruction of our great civilization – a civilization that has dragged humanity out of ignorance, superstition, poverty, starvation, hard labor, disease, suffering, child mortality, early death, and the vicissitudes of nature. This revolt against civilization, has not yet been stopped – we have been too tolerant.

    The most intolerant wins.

    We must rule by our law, out of self defense, and drag mankind kicking and screaming once again into transcendence of the gods we may yet be, in a universe hostile to all but gods.

    Transcendence by Agency, Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Truth, Duty, Markets in Everything: the continuous calculation of our ascent into godhood.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-05 08:47:00 UTC

  • AGENCY: YES SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ‘HUMAN’ AND LESS ‘ANIMAL’ THAN OTHERS —“By th

    AGENCY: YES SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ‘HUMAN’ AND LESS ‘ANIMAL’ THAN OTHERS

    —“By that you mean some people are not human( morality or physiology)?”— Natty Kanya

    Just as children do not have the self-control of adults, many adults lack the self control of others. While we may learn self control of our bodies. We may learn self control of our emotions. We may NOT learn self control of our thoughts. We use the term ‘Agency’ to describe independence of our thoughts from physical and emotional impulses, from the bias of our intuitions, and from the bias of our thoughts. In this sense, some people are fully human (they have developed agency) or they are not fully human (they have not developed agency) and are still ‘animals’.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-05 07:50:00 UTC

  • EUGENICS BY NOT PRACTICING DYSGENICS —“Eugenics, in the vernacular, often equa

    EUGENICS BY NOT PRACTICING DYSGENICS

    —“Eugenics, in the vernacular, often equates to needless discretionary euthenasia. Eugenics via negativa would consist of eliminating and preventing… https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=290365451560352&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-04 10:59:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1036931758388899843

  • Let A Thousand Nations Bloom Some of you might have seen my video on Moral Speci

    Let A Thousand Nations Bloom

    Some of you might have seen my video on Moral Specialization and the Reproductive Division of Cognitive Labor, that addresses how the genders and classes express their reproductive strategies as differences in moral bias (meaning, demand).

    … and at the other end of the spectrum, on the civilizational scale, please see my video on the Circumpolar civilization and division of labor.

    So I’ll suggest you view those two at some point, if not first, before continuing with this video.

    This video is a continuation of that theme: the division of cognitive, productive, and reproductive, labor from the very smallest to the very largest scale. And we’re going to explore the middle ground between those two videos with polities.

    I want to paint a very different picture of mankind’s future potential means of organizing that is the antithesis of the abrahamic authoritarian version-one religions, and abrahamic version two pseudocientific sophisms of marxism-feminism-postmodernism and universalist equalitarian and dysgenic vision of the herd.

    Its a vision more inline with the cultural and civilizational diversity (or markets) of the past. One where we return to the speciation that we engaged in prior to agrarianism.

    And it’s a vision that abandons many of the presumptions during the agrarian period we know as the copper, bronze, and steel ages.

    Unfortunately, we have very little to refer to outside of that era since we have not had the luxury of self determination that we have in this age of modernity.

    But in short, we have the luxury of returning to group specialization and speciation for those who desire it, and group generalization and equality for those who desire it.

    But for the moment let’s review the reasoning that will lead us here.

    – time: the only resource we have. we cooperate to save time. The more we cooperate the more time we save (or rather perhaps ‘make’) – we not wealthier than cave men we have just made everything cheaper in the time required to obtain it.

    – the male reproductive strategy is seize opportunities ….. male defense is the male pack

    – and the female reproductive strategy is selective utility… – female defense is the female herd

    (MORE HERE ON Gender strategies)

    – while these gender biases are universal the this does not mean we all do not differ in our positions on that distribution with some males demonstrating the female strategy and some females demonstrating the male strategy.

    – there are only so many degrees of significang difference between human groups and at present all of them seem to be determined by degree of neoteny or its reversal, and distribution of male and female traits between the genders (dimorphism). In other words, the principle differences between the Macro Races, Major Races, and Races appears to be little more than:

    (a) the success at neotenic evolution in winter farming and close cohabitation, or the success at developmental depth and intensity in the face of warmer climates and greater disease resistance, and hardier children.

    (b) The distribution of female and male biases in cognitiion between the genders, as well as male and female morphology.

    (c) the success at shrinking the underclass in harsh winters or under agrarian manorialism.

    (d) the number of diverse competitors (tribes) that increase the demand for aggression and clannishness vs the homogeneity and demand for cohabitability and increase the demand for limiting clanishnes.

    (e) the number of outliers produced at the top and bottom of the range (width of cognitive distribution) ie: ashkanazi.

    – so we have different moral biases, or rather stated, different moral demands of one another. As suits our needs.

    – These moral difference s can be measured – see haidt’s as property rights and therfore political preferences express these gender differences

    – leftists are cognitive specialists in consumption, and rightists are cognitive generalists but give more weight to capital accumulation. Meaning that leftists specialize in the female herd strategy. Meaning that conservatives specialize in the male pack strategy.

    – These demands can only be met through compromise we call exchanges. (really)

    – Cooperation is voluntary, so we choose the compromise position.

    – At some point the compromise position for one group of biases is counter to genetic, moral, and cognitive interest.

    – Worse, the female strategy is, as expected, producing cognitive declines through rapid increase in the underclasses thereby reversing millennia of economic selection that made possible our prosperity.

    – As always the globalists (female strategy) pursue monopoly and equality and dysgenia, which always and everywhere results in underclass expansion, demand for authority, the authoritarian personality of the left.

    – As always, the localists (male strategy) favor markets in everything where we can compete and continuously improve as we did in the anciet world before the abrahamic dark ages, and have in the modern world as we cast off the abrahamic dark ages.

    But we see the feminin globalists seeking equalitarian monopoly and dysgenic reproduction again in the yet another abrahamic dark age. This time by marxism-feminism-postmodernism (meaning pseudoschence and sophism) rather than by abrahamic supernatural authoritarianism in the ancient world.

    – male aggression – men rally to prey on competitors and steal their territory and females vs females compete for status, access to resources, and access to insurance. Males compete by frequent violence that ends without too much harm – just positioning in the pack.

    women compete by infrequent conflict but when in conflict engage in reputation destruction, don’t forgive, and seek to outcast and make vulnerable other females. They then undermine males by the same method. They also heap undue praise. so women war by gossip, ridicule shamming, rallying, and reputation destruction. Most of which is invisible.

    – some groups specialize in masculine packs and hierarchies and meritocracy, some in herds or equality. Some in productivity because they have high trust, some in parasitism and predation because they have low trust.

    – all groups develop competitive excellences in their outliers and these excellences are asian mathematical and a narrow distribution, ashkenazi verbal and a wide distribution, and white balance in an in-between distribution. Some groups develop excellences in reproduction and aggression (africans and arabs), some in achievements (whites and east asians). Some in an almost unimaginablly peaceful stability (indians).

    – the principle problem for competitive (evolutionary) excellences is (a) burden of the underclass, (b) dilution by invasion, migration, immigration.

    – as we have become wealthier each of us attempts to assert our reproductive strategy as the common good. This is why the enlighetnment consisted largely of revolts against anglo-scandianvian empiricism of uniquely high trust packs of people, and the french, german, jewish, and russian – then chinese and indian and south american revolts against empiricism

    – at present we are in a civilizational conflict between the herd of feminine and equalitarians that constitute the less desirable upper talking classes, and the underclasses, and the packs consisting of the more desirable working and middle classes and their military classes.

    And we seem to think that, despite the evidence that we continue on our trajectories, that there is a compromise to be had – at one’s expense or another’s.

    But while agrarianism bound us together and forced the compromise we call monogamy, polity, religion, and civilization in a division of labor, these constraints no longer bind us.

    Women are able to, and ever more frequently pursuing single motherhood, and spend 70% of the money in the economy.

    Men no longer need marriage to survive, or for status. And their income needs are more in saving for old age than in adult consumption.

    Our productivity is high enough that with changes to our financial system that end exploitation of the middle classes we can pursue strategies that were never possible before.

    And with this freedom from constraint, some groups want to preserve family as the central unit of production, and policy of the polity, and some do not, and want the individual to function as the central unit of production, and central unit of policy in the polity.

    We cannot ask one another to abandon our genetic interests in modernity unless we are willing to conquer one another, or engage in costly civil wars.

    So the problem we face is that we have constructed governements in the enligthement era – post napoleonic france in particular, to take advantage of the ability to finance military defense at scale.

    Butt his condition no longer exists. a small polity with a few nuclear weapons and a swiss militia with small professional army is not worth the risk of warring with.

    There is every reason to deconstruct governments so that we produce the polities we each want, so that each of us can group together to pursue our different group evolutionary strategies without preying upon the other’s group strategy.

    And every reason to assist in the development of excellences in each group, and to let a thousand nations with different excellences bloom.

    The only reason not to is because one wants to prey upon others the way at least three notorious groups currently prey upon other civilizations through some sort of parasitism or another.

    So my view is that we must choose between continuing cognitive universal decline, or to revolt separate and re-speciate, such that those that choose the feminine strategy decline, adn those of us that choose the masculine strategy continue to drag humanity kicking and screaming into the future.

    Revolt, separate, prosper, speciate. No more class, race wars of domination.

    The alternative is to Revolt, Separate, Prosper, and Speciate and let evolutoinary success determine who made the optimum choice: dysgenic left, or eugenic right.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-03 14:23:00 UTC