People Are *Very* Different from Each Other https://propertarianism.com/2020/04/23/people-are-very-different-from-each-other/
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-23 19:58:35 UTC
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People Are *Very* Different from Each Other https://propertarianism.com/2020/04/23/people-are-very-different-from-each-other/
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-23 19:58:35 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253412974632431616
by John Mark It is hard for us to imagine how different other people are to us. This has been the single hardest lesson for me to learn over my lifetime, I’m finally getting it and still getting more revelations about it. Even understanding the very thorough, very clear way that Curt lays out the “clusters” of humans (by personality/gender/moral instinct/moral division of labor), it is still very difficult for me to imagine actually thinking like, say, a leftist or a globalist or a “feminine-minded” person. Yet, I am confident in saying that George Soros sincerely believes he is doing the right thing in pushing for globalism & mass immigration for western nations as hard as he can. He is Jooish (feminine mind + “globalism & immigration means less likely joos will be persecuted” mindset). (Ironically, joos pushing these policies increases the likelihood of joos being persecuted, but as typical female-mind they are not introspective enough to know that.) As far as I can tell, Soros is not sitting there saying “Hahaha I am Dr. Evil!! I vill control zee vorld, just to be evil!!” He’s just acting like a typical joo. He is trying to control as much of the world as he can based on his biases and incentives. Is he – and/or others – “conspiring”? Depends on your definition of “conspiracy”. I think the point Curt is trying to make with his recent posts on this subject is that many times the masses intuit/impute intent to be evil onto powerful people who are doing things we don’t like, when in reality they are mainly being themselves (they are not like us) and acting according to their incentives (yes, often with awareness that they are “cheating” or “taking advantage”, and often genuinely believing they are right as with Soros & “true believer” leftist leaders & politicians). So Curt’s point is, “these people are largely just acting on incentives & calculating how to gain, and are getting away with it to the extent our system – and we ourselves – allow it.” So rather than focusing on imputing intent to be evil (feminine bias – similar to what leftists do when they impute evil intent onto rightwingers, cuz they are so different than us that they can’t fathom we are working toward our own incentives which are very different than theirs), let’s focus on changing the system and stopping the parasites. I don’t care how deep you go into the conspiracy rabbit hole, I care if you act with agency to stop the parasites and build/enforce a system that does not allow them to operate. I don’t care if you believe in Jesus or heaven or a pantheon of pink elephant-gods, I care if you act with agency to stop the parasites and build/enforce a system that does not sllow them to operate. And this (I’m pretty sure) is the big reason Curt gives the conspiracy-minded folks and people who are into certain religions, a hard time in some ways – because feminine-minded reactions/thinking tends to rob people of agency. It tends to rob them of the mindset necessary to build and enforce a system that crushes parasites into dust. Honestly, is anyone holding their breath for Christians or the “primary focus on conspiracies” crowd to lead and be the primary drivers of the revolution and salvation of America and the West? (There are many exceptions of course including possibly Alex Jones who seems to have a lot of balls to do what he’s done.) One challenge we have on the grassroots Right is that we have groups that try to demand that everyone else on the Right “speak their language” or they show intolerance.
Many conspiracy-focused folks say “If you don’t believe in conspiracies to the extent I do, you’re not good enough.”
The problem is, none of these groups are providing a workable solution. We are, but because we don’t woo them in “their language” – because that would require catering to agency-reducing and/or effectiveness-reducing tendencies – their initial reaction is sometimes to reject us. No matter. High-agency men will always carry the day for the simple reason that no one else acts or solves problems. The low-agency people will always end up following the high-agency people. The challenge in getting “buy-in” to what we are proposing is that it removes all excuses. It demands agency. Proposing and understanding solutions and acting to make them happen is much harder and riskier than complaining & wishing everyone would “speak your language”. Thus, the high-agency people love what we’re doing. Often instantly, sometimes after a bit of learning. “At last, a solution I can act with agency toward!” (Something worth my agency’s efforts.) The low-agency people look for excuses to keep their excuses. We are building an army of high-agency men. (And some high-agency women too.) Join the army, or get out of our way.
by John Mark It is hard for us to imagine how different other people are to us. This has been the single hardest lesson for me to learn over my lifetime, I’m finally getting it and still getting more revelations about it. Even understanding the very thorough, very clear way that Curt lays out the “clusters” of humans (by personality/gender/moral instinct/moral division of labor), it is still very difficult for me to imagine actually thinking like, say, a leftist or a globalist or a “feminine-minded” person. Yet, I am confident in saying that George Soros sincerely believes he is doing the right thing in pushing for globalism & mass immigration for western nations as hard as he can. He is Jooish (feminine mind + “globalism & immigration means less likely joos will be persecuted” mindset). (Ironically, joos pushing these policies increases the likelihood of joos being persecuted, but as typical female-mind they are not introspective enough to know that.) As far as I can tell, Soros is not sitting there saying “Hahaha I am Dr. Evil!! I vill control zee vorld, just to be evil!!” He’s just acting like a typical joo. He is trying to control as much of the world as he can based on his biases and incentives. Is he – and/or others – “conspiring”? Depends on your definition of “conspiracy”. I think the point Curt is trying to make with his recent posts on this subject is that many times the masses intuit/impute intent to be evil onto powerful people who are doing things we don’t like, when in reality they are mainly being themselves (they are not like us) and acting according to their incentives (yes, often with awareness that they are “cheating” or “taking advantage”, and often genuinely believing they are right as with Soros & “true believer” leftist leaders & politicians). So Curt’s point is, “these people are largely just acting on incentives & calculating how to gain, and are getting away with it to the extent our system – and we ourselves – allow it.” So rather than focusing on imputing intent to be evil (feminine bias – similar to what leftists do when they impute evil intent onto rightwingers, cuz they are so different than us that they can’t fathom we are working toward our own incentives which are very different than theirs), let’s focus on changing the system and stopping the parasites. I don’t care how deep you go into the conspiracy rabbit hole, I care if you act with agency to stop the parasites and build/enforce a system that does not allow them to operate. I don’t care if you believe in Jesus or heaven or a pantheon of pink elephant-gods, I care if you act with agency to stop the parasites and build/enforce a system that does not sllow them to operate. And this (I’m pretty sure) is the big reason Curt gives the conspiracy-minded folks and people who are into certain religions, a hard time in some ways – because feminine-minded reactions/thinking tends to rob people of agency. It tends to rob them of the mindset necessary to build and enforce a system that crushes parasites into dust. Honestly, is anyone holding their breath for Christians or the “primary focus on conspiracies” crowd to lead and be the primary drivers of the revolution and salvation of America and the West? (There are many exceptions of course including possibly Alex Jones who seems to have a lot of balls to do what he’s done.) One challenge we have on the grassroots Right is that we have groups that try to demand that everyone else on the Right “speak their language” or they show intolerance.
Many conspiracy-focused folks say “If you don’t believe in conspiracies to the extent I do, you’re not good enough.”
The problem is, none of these groups are providing a workable solution. We are, but because we don’t woo them in “their language” – because that would require catering to agency-reducing and/or effectiveness-reducing tendencies – their initial reaction is sometimes to reject us. No matter. High-agency men will always carry the day for the simple reason that no one else acts or solves problems. The low-agency people will always end up following the high-agency people. The challenge in getting “buy-in” to what we are proposing is that it removes all excuses. It demands agency. Proposing and understanding solutions and acting to make them happen is much harder and riskier than complaining & wishing everyone would “speak your language”. Thus, the high-agency people love what we’re doing. Often instantly, sometimes after a bit of learning. “At last, a solution I can act with agency toward!” (Something worth my agency’s efforts.) The low-agency people look for excuses to keep their excuses. We are building an army of high-agency men. (And some high-agency women too.) Join the army, or get out of our way.
P IS A METHOD OF ADMINISTERING PSYCHOTHERAPY EN-MASSE.
by Ryan Drummond
—“Even political movements can, not without justice, claim to be psychotherapy in the grand manner. The outbreak of war cured many a compulsion neurosis.” — Carl Jung (The Practise of Psychotherapy, p. 6)
P is a method of administering psychotherapy en-masse.Updated Apr 23, 2020, 4:52 PM
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-23 16:52:00 UTC
THE EMOTIONAL ECONOMY
— Dr Barrett.
—“…your brain is wired to model your world, [measured] by what is relevant for your body [and its] budget, and then you experience that model as Reality.”—
Or as I’m fond of saying in Vitruvianism, “Man is the measure of all things to man. Experience is constructed from those measurements. And the grammars are just systems of measurement.
—“The theory of constructed emotion incorporates elements of all three flavors of construction. From social construction, it acknowledges the importance of culture and concepts. From psychological construction, it considers emotions to be constructed by core systems in the brain and body. And from neuro-constuction, it adopts the idea that experience wires the brain.”—
—“Emotions [evolved to] 1) to make meaning – to understand one’s state is more efficient, 2) prescribe action, 3) regulate your body budget to prepare for said action. These 3 are about you. Two other functions: 4) emotional communication and 5) social influence.”—
—“Your body budget fluctuates normally throughout the day, as your brain anticipates your body’s needs and shifts around your budgetary resources like oxygen, glucose, salt, and water. When you digest food, your stomach and intestines “borrow” resources from your muscles. When you run, your muscles borrow from your liver and kidneys. During these transfers, your budget remains solvent.
—“Affective Realism is a step past implicit bias. The Reality we see/hear is shaped by our affect. … You might believe that you are a rational creature, weighing the pros and cons before deciding how to act, but the structure of your cortex makes this an implausible fiction. Your brain is wired to listen to your body budget. Affect is in the driver’s seat and rationality is a passenger. It doesn’t matter whether you’re choosing between two snacks, two job offers, two investments, or two heart surgeons your everyday decisions are driven by a loudmouthed, mostly deaf scientist who views the world through affect-colored glasses.”—
Book goes off the rails later on but the beginning is close enough.
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-23 09:57:00 UTC
You must choose to be a great man that seizes an opportunity to leave a mark on history. You cannot choose the whether your lifetime contains the opportunity. But whether you muster with your brothers to seize it is. The rest is chaos, and circumstance, and luck. You can’t win the game of history unless you play it. And it requires skin in the game. 😉
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-22 17:43:00 UTC
—“The battlefield and the search for glory brought me here. A man needs purpose.”—David Bauer
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-22 14:18:00 UTC
THE POINT OF DEMARCATION IS INDIVIDUAL VS POLITICAL
There are good people in every group. There are bad people in every group. What matters is whether the good or the bad people in every group advance their, and their group’s interest to integrate into our natural law – or whether they resist integration in to our Natural law; or use resistance movements to seek bribes to conform to our natural law; or seek parasitism by taking advantage of our vulnerability – our tolerance – under our natural law. Our Natural Law is empirical and it tells us we aren’t intolerant enough. If it’s interpersonal then exhaust tolerance (christianity). If it’s political then zero tolerance (Doolittle). It’s not a difficult disambiguation, demarcation, distinction, difference. 😉 Be intolerant. Otherwise you’re committing fraud by not paying to cost of maintaining the commons, under pretense your convenience is a conviction. It’s not. It’s fraud. Be intolerant.
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-22 14:15:00 UTC
Sorry. Brevity. Conservatives (dominant male) see threats in general: Diseased, Impurity, Maladaptation, Hyperconsumption, Disloyalty, Subversion, Disorder, Non-Conformity, Cowardice, Conflict, Competition, .. Progressive:Consumptive(More), Conservative:Capitalizing(Better).
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-19 16:27:20 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1251910260220198913
Reply addressees: @MrMatt444 @JonHaidt
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1251908687557537798
The infantilized cannot compartmentalize intuition, emotion, sincerity, and symbolism from real world, profit-loss, rational choice, and calculation. The mature mind, can compartmentalize. For the infantile sincerity(in impulse) is true vs rationality(in reason) is insincere.
Source date (UTC): 2020-04-18 20:06:16 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1251602968731844608
Reply addressees: @DeguTanya @buldursgait @BepDelta @Dark_TossEX @MarfamSilva @paxchristus0 @ReadLinkola
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1251600691912536064