—“BUT WHAT DID ROTHBARD INNOVATE?”—
1 – (Respectfully) I always think that’s a rather ridiculous question since of empiricism (Aristotle), Self Improvement(Zeno), Moral Literature (Plato), and Rational Mythology (Augustine), it’s easy to state that all of philosophy is merely footnotes stated in current vocabulary.
2 – My reading of rothbard, particularly “for a new liberty” was that he was (a) trying to restated jewish borderland (ukrainian) low trust ethics, in anglo-jeffersonian high trust terms, and (b) trying to reduce social science to an informal logic. Did he or did Hoppe?
3 – My reading (because I learned it from him) is that Hoppe completed that program, unfortunately, using Kantian > Marxist rationalism, rather than anglo empiricism (law). I just converted it to scientific rather than justificationary prose.
4 – Every thinker is only partly right. My beef with rothbard is that he conflated low trust ethics with high trust ethics, and conducted an pseudoscientific war on the commons as marx did on private property. The only one who was right was Hayek: it’s all just reducible to law.
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—“RE: BUT A PLANNER CANNOT KNOW WHICH RAILROAD IS ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT TO BUILD”—
—“RE: BUT A PLANNER CANNOT KNOW WHICH RAILROAD IS ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT TO BUILD”— (Responding only because some well intentioned fool ‘liked’ your reply) That’s false. Because all differences in economic productivity are reducible to time. Calculation is possible. The problem is competition that determines price, not the method by which price is calculated. You know, I have been working on this problem only since about 2001, and I know that Russo-Ukrainian Libertarianism was abandoned by intellectuals relatively quickly, but it’s still surprising that these nonsense arguments still persist. Mises was irrelevant. Rothbard was wrong. Hoppe took rothbard and restated it in the justificationary nonsense of Kant and the Marxists.But we’ve left behind justificationism along with it’s source – scripture. Science is exclusively falsifications: Darwinian.The real insights of Mises, Rothbard,and Hoppe are obscured.. …by pseudoscientific propaganda. We solve social science in a century when no one else did: Mises discovered operationalism in economics, rothbard and hoppe reduced all social science to reciprocity (property), and it is possible to construct a formal logic of LAW. Yet those who had a direct connection to rothbard or rand are still grasping at straws of rationalist falsehood. Science is complete. Philosophy is relegated to preference and good. And justification went the way of scripture. Just how it is. They only got it half right. -
—“RE: BUT A PLANNER CANNOT KNOW WHICH RAILROAD IS ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT TO BUILD”—
—“RE: BUT A PLANNER CANNOT KNOW WHICH RAILROAD IS ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT TO BUILD”— (Responding only because some well intentioned fool ‘liked’ your reply) That’s false. Because all differences in economic productivity are reducible to time. Calculation is possible. The problem is competition that determines price, not the method by which price is calculated. You know, I have been working on this problem only since about 2001, and I know that Russo-Ukrainian Libertarianism was abandoned by intellectuals relatively quickly, but it’s still surprising that these nonsense arguments still persist. Mises was irrelevant. Rothbard was wrong. Hoppe took rothbard and restated it in the justificationary nonsense of Kant and the Marxists.But we’ve left behind justificationism along with it’s source – scripture. Science is exclusively falsifications: Darwinian.The real insights of Mises, Rothbard,and Hoppe are obscured.. …by pseudoscientific propaganda. We solve social science in a century when no one else did: Mises discovered operationalism in economics, rothbard and hoppe reduced all social science to reciprocity (property), and it is possible to construct a formal logic of LAW. Yet those who had a direct connection to rothbard or rand are still grasping at straws of rationalist falsehood. Science is complete. Philosophy is relegated to preference and good. And justification went the way of scripture. Just how it is. They only got it half right. -
Curt Doolittle’s answer: Russians (and Putin) were restoring their influence and
Curt Doolittle’s answer: Russians (and Putin) were restoring their influence and status in the world. Prior to 2013, Putin was the most respected politician in the world, an idol of the american right, and on the cover of magazines as a hero. The problem was, that when the Ukrainian Maidan Revol… -
Curt Doolittle’s answer: Russians (and Putin) were restoring their influence and
Curt Doolittle’s answer: Russians (and Putin) were restoring their influence and status in the world. Prior to 2013, Putin was the most respected politician in the world, an idol of the american right, and on the cover of magazines as a hero. The problem was, that when the Ukrainian Maidan Revol… -
Positive Freedoms Cannot Exist
Positive freedoms cannot exist because they force others to bear your costs against their will. Only negative freedoms are equally extensible to all because they ask us NOT to do something. Rights are merely positive expressions of the right to sue for restitution. So it is ‘Freedom FROM’ false, criminal, unethical, and immoral display, word, and deed. In other words, the only moral rule equally extensible to all is RECIPROCITY (exchange). So while the moral person wants freedom of all speech under the assumption others only err, or are victims of their ability and ignorance, the reality is that the industrialization of lying by pseudoscience, pseudo-rationalism, and propaganda in the 20th century has caused damage only equalled by the Abrahamic Dark Age. Westerners have produced the only existing high trust civilization, but this left the west uniquely vulnerable to the cheap production of propaganda. Lies are cheap/Truth Expensive. And the many who lied by propaganda, pseudoscience, and pseudo-rationalism, as a means of destroying that high trust civilization could do so because it is simply too expensive to correct a desirable falsehood and too cheap to perpetuate it. Thankfully, between archeology, cognitive science, genetics, the results of the world experiment with different forms of government, and the world experiments with different forms of economics, the entire propaganda program of the early and mid 20th century had been ended. -
Positive Freedoms Cannot Exist
Positive freedoms cannot exist because they force others to bear your costs against their will. Only negative freedoms are equally extensible to all because they ask us NOT to do something. Rights are merely positive expressions of the right to sue for restitution. So it is ‘Freedom FROM’ false, criminal, unethical, and immoral display, word, and deed. In other words, the only moral rule equally extensible to all is RECIPROCITY (exchange). So while the moral person wants freedom of all speech under the assumption others only err, or are victims of their ability and ignorance, the reality is that the industrialization of lying by pseudoscience, pseudo-rationalism, and propaganda in the 20th century has caused damage only equalled by the Abrahamic Dark Age. Westerners have produced the only existing high trust civilization, but this left the west uniquely vulnerable to the cheap production of propaganda. Lies are cheap/Truth Expensive. And the many who lied by propaganda, pseudoscience, and pseudo-rationalism, as a means of destroying that high trust civilization could do so because it is simply too expensive to correct a desirable falsehood and too cheap to perpetuate it. Thankfully, between archeology, cognitive science, genetics, the results of the world experiment with different forms of government, and the world experiments with different forms of economics, the entire propaganda program of the early and mid 20th century had been ended. -
Hayek started with a theory of cognition and revolutionized thought. Peterson st
Hayek started with a theory of cognition and revolutionized thought. Peterson started in psychology with libertarian sentiments. I started in Artificial intelligence. I dont know hicks’ original line of thought but he has been libertarian. i wouldnt call taleb libertarian, but possibly a sovereigntarian but he came to his conclusions using computer models also. we all started with libertarian sentiments. -
Hayek started with a theory of cognition and revolutionized thought. Peterson st
Hayek started with a theory of cognition and revolutionized thought. Peterson started in psychology with libertarian sentiments. I started in Artificial intelligence. I dont know hicks’ original line of thought but he has been libertarian. i wouldnt call taleb libertarian, but possibly a sovereigntarian but he came to his conclusions using computer models also. we all started with libertarian sentiments. -
but then it is status that drives affinity for leftism: the frustration with low
but then it is status that drives affinity for leftism: the frustration with low social, sexual, economic, and political market value under market meritocracy. the reason marx was wrong was that the principal beneficiaries of consumer capitalism were consumers (labor). capitalism has been the great leveller of consumption. the only difference between the classes is the purchase of signal goods (really). Marx stopped writing after reading menger and realizing he was wrong. but he kept up pretenses of working to maintain financial support by Engels – marx was a perfect marxist: a parasite. It has always and always will be and it was menger, pareto, durkheim, and hayek that explained why – and why it cannot be otherwise: knowledge, incentives, and the use of incentives to organize experimentation, production, distribution, and trade. value is created by organizing