by The Other Žižek @fashyzizek
(1/5) Was having a chat with a friend about the status of the modern political theories in their relation to Christianity and—though I still think liberalism, communism & fascism are best understood as Christian heresies—my friend did point out something important.
(2/5) Liberalism is truer to Christianity in that it proceeds from a similar ‘starting point’. Both communism & fascism, owing to certain philosophical developments on the continent (chiefly the insights of Hegel), proceed from a different starting point.
(3/5) The typology could be set down as follows:
Christianity—the Individual & his moral powers
Liberalism—the Individual & his cognitive powers
Communism—Society as historical & material totality
Fascism—Society as historical & spiritual totality
(4/5) Obviously, the individual’s moral & cognitive powers are deeply implicated in one another bc of the history of European philosophy; Christian theology & liberal philosophy are therefore deeply intertwined. This bears itself out if you know a bit of either.
(5/5) More interestingly, communism & fascism, in seeing society through a totalising historical lens, are much closer to each other than to their theological progenitor (Christianity) or first competitor (liberalism).
(6/5) Not sure if any philosopher or historian has teased this out before but if anyone has recommendations, I’m eager to hear them.
[Y]ou are on the right track, and many others have made the same observation before, it’s just that their thought projects are suppressed post war because they were almost universally (and justifiably) anti-semitic, anti-muslim, anti-everyone and pro european superiority.
Now, I think you’re approach is common for those who read literature and philosophy rather than law, economics, and science. And that is that you aren’t pursuing the underlying military, strategic, demographic, economic causes that drive change, which drives demand for ideas, which thinkers supply, to meet market demand. It’s not like they invent these ideas and drive the world, it’s that the market for ideas generates demand for intellectual work products.
Secondly, and something you might find very interesting, is that I study what you might call the forensics of communication, persuasion, argument, and law. And I compare them to a baseline of truthful speech (which is something else I work on). So it’s pretty easy to ‘trace’ the development of the technology of persuasion (and lying for that matter)
—“I still think liberalism, communism & fascism are best understood as Christian heresies”—
Sort of close but consider going back before christianity to understand what heresies judaism and christianity were caused by.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam make use of the same means of persuasion, and argument. They produce rebellions against the Aristocratic (Land Holding) civilizations, under the claim of oppression or victimization (instead of domestication, evolution, and modernization) using false promise, baiting people into hazard (decline, harm), using Supernaturalism for the false promise, sophism (pilpul) to argument, and undermining (critique) via propaganda and
Communism, Socialism, Postmodernism, Neoconservatism and Libertarianism were repetitions of the semitic destruction of all the great civilizations of the ancient world, by judaism to undermine, christianity to weaken (demilitarize) and islam to destroy thru raiding – this time using pseudoscience and sophism, and economic and political false promise, rather than supernaturalism and after death false promise.
—“Both communism & fascism, owing to certain philosophical developments on the continent (chiefly the insights of Hegel), proceed from a different starting point.”—
So you are, like most, making an empathic interpretation without starting with the source of decidability in that empathy.
National Socialism (French) Fascism (Italian), and German National Socialism were reactions against the evolution of universal marxism and destruction of economies and polities in a new ‘cult’ religion by nationalism, the use of economies, and polities, as a resistance movement. That’s all they were. Nothing more.
The germans were not happy with the fall of the church, and still are not, and just as the French ‘enlightenment’ was a resistance movement against the aristocracy and British empiricism, the German ‘enlightenment’ was a desperate attempt – still ongoing – to produce a secular version of christianity as an alternative to the empirical enlightenment. Jewish thought (boasianism, freudianism, marxism, Frankfurt cultural marxism, feminism, postmodernism, denialism, outright lying) are likewise reactions not only to empiricism, but especially to Darwin (and Nietzsche), as well as western rule of law, which is naturally, because of market meritocracy, eugenic. It’s this eugenics that these rebellions against sovereignty, truth, duty, reciprocity, and rule of law – seek to end.
Kant, Hegel thru Hiedegger can be best understood an attempt to create a secular theology – and failing dramatically, in competition with anglo reason law and empiricism. The French having killed off their aristocracy adopted a feminine group strategy of aggressive national socialism and moralizing. The jews attempted to create a system of undermining for each class, as always, as is their group strategy. The Russians used literature which was perhaps the most successful attempt to create a secular theology.
There is only one starting point from which all social and political strategy evolves, and that is eugenic or dysgenic. It’s whether to pursue a european aristocratic, productive, and eugenic order, a far eastern centralized bureaucratic eugenic order, or a hindu decentralized harmonious genetically hierarchical order or a semitic underclass parasitic and dysgenic order.
—“ The typology could be set down as follows:
Christianity—the Individual & his moral powers
Liberalism—the Individual & his cognitive powers
Communism—Society as historical & material totality
Fascism—Society as historical & spiritual totality”—
How would you restate those as the necessary strategies of groups given their geographic, strategic, military, demographic, class, and economic structures?
TECHNIQUE:
Theology(christianity) > Reason(Continental liberalism) > Science (Anglo Rule of Law) > Secular Theology (communism: pseudoscience, rebellion, fascism, restoration).
INSIGHT
It’s hard to explain spirituality to people in scientific terms because it deprives them of some of the utility of it. But it’s a mammalian response that is triggered by submission to the pack response, and the pace of mind that comes from doing so. In effect, it’s the feeling of running with the pack. Which is the only time we are ‘whole’ instead of individual super predators living in a continuous competition on many levels.
So it’s better to ask, what each of these innovations was trying to achieve by providing the populi with mindfulness (spiritual comfort) in knowing that they’re running with the pack so to speak, and in safety, and not left behind. And yes we can measure this response.
—“More interestingly, communism & fascism, in seeing society through a totalising historical lens, are much closer to each other than to their theological progenitor (Christianity) or first competitor (liberalism).”—
Well, that’s because judaism, Christianity and Islam were rebellions against aristocracy, meritocracy, literacy, mathematics, and reason – particularly ‘truth’. And liberalism was a rebellion against church and state using meritocracy literacy, mathematics, reason, and empiricism. And communism and it’s counter-revolution (fascism) was a rebellion against the industrial revolution and the rapid decline in the value of labor (which is continuing).
CLOSING
So, think of it that just as we have arithmetic, geometry, calculus, and physics, chemistry, biology, that we can communicate in theology, philosophy, science and describe peoples INCENTIVES as spiritual, moral, and rational. But at all times we are producing language that provides utility in the real world – just calculating it in more intuitionistic, more rational, or more empirical terms.
Anyway. Yes you are onto one of the general themes of history but you are operating in the continental model of secular theology not the anglo model of scientific incentives.
In my view the theological method has pretty much failed the west. The continental method has pretty much failed the west. And only the anglo method has succeeded, and that we are beset by superstition (islam), propaganda, pragmatism, and power (since method), and simple population pressure, and our problem is our christian tolerance.
by The Other Žižek @fashyzizek
(1/5) Was having a chat with a friend about the status of the modern political theories in their relation to Christianity and—though I still think liberalism, communism & fascism are best understood as Christian heresies—my friend did point out something important.
(2/5) Liberalism is truer to Christianity in that it proceeds from a similar ‘starting point’. Both communism & fascism, owing to certain philosophical developments on the continent (chiefly the insights of Hegel), proceed from a different starting point.
(3/5) The typology could be set down as follows:
Christianity—the Individual & his moral powers
Liberalism—the Individual & his cognitive powers
Communism—Society as historical & material totality
Fascism—Society as historical & spiritual totality
(4/5) Obviously, the individual’s moral & cognitive powers are deeply implicated in one another bc of the history of European philosophy; Christian theology & liberal philosophy are therefore deeply intertwined. This bears itself out if you know a bit of either.
(5/5) More interestingly, communism & fascism, in seeing society through a totalising historical lens, are much closer to each other than to their theological progenitor (Christianity) or first competitor (liberalism).
(6/5) Not sure if any philosopher or historian has teased this out before but if anyone has recommendations, I’m eager to hear them.
[Y]ou are on the right track, and many others have made the same observation before, it’s just that their thought projects are suppressed post war because they were almost universally (and justifiably) anti-semitic, anti-muslim, anti-everyone and pro european superiority.
Now, I think you’re approach is common for those who read literature and philosophy rather than law, economics, and science. And that is that you aren’t pursuing the underlying military, strategic, demographic, economic causes that drive change, which drives demand for ideas, which thinkers supply, to meet market demand. It’s not like they invent these ideas and drive the world, it’s that the market for ideas generates demand for intellectual work products.
Secondly, and something you might find very interesting, is that I study what you might call the forensics of communication, persuasion, argument, and law. And I compare them to a baseline of truthful speech (which is something else I work on). So it’s pretty easy to ‘trace’ the development of the technology of persuasion (and lying for that matter)
—“I still think liberalism, communism & fascism are best understood as Christian heresies”—
Sort of close but consider going back before christianity to understand what heresies judaism and christianity were caused by.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam make use of the same means of persuasion, and argument. They produce rebellions against the Aristocratic (Land Holding) civilizations, under the claim of oppression or victimization (instead of domestication, evolution, and modernization) using false promise, baiting people into hazard (decline, harm), using Supernaturalism for the false promise, sophism (pilpul) to argument, and undermining (critique) via propaganda and
Communism, Socialism, Postmodernism, Neoconservatism and Libertarianism were repetitions of the semitic destruction of all the great civilizations of the ancient world, by judaism to undermine, christianity to weaken (demilitarize) and islam to destroy thru raiding – this time using pseudoscience and sophism, and economic and political false promise, rather than supernaturalism and after death false promise.
—“Both communism & fascism, owing to certain philosophical developments on the continent (chiefly the insights of Hegel), proceed from a different starting point.”—
So you are, like most, making an empathic interpretation without starting with the source of decidability in that empathy.
National Socialism (French) Fascism (Italian), and German National Socialism were reactions against the evolution of universal marxism and destruction of economies and polities in a new ‘cult’ religion by nationalism, the use of economies, and polities, as a resistance movement. That’s all they were. Nothing more.
The germans were not happy with the fall of the church, and still are not, and just as the French ‘enlightenment’ was a resistance movement against the aristocracy and British empiricism, the German ‘enlightenment’ was a desperate attempt – still ongoing – to produce a secular version of christianity as an alternative to the empirical enlightenment. Jewish thought (boasianism, freudianism, marxism, Frankfurt cultural marxism, feminism, postmodernism, denialism, outright lying) are likewise reactions not only to empiricism, but especially to Darwin (and Nietzsche), as well as western rule of law, which is naturally, because of market meritocracy, eugenic. It’s this eugenics that these rebellions against sovereignty, truth, duty, reciprocity, and rule of law – seek to end.
Kant, Hegel thru Hiedegger can be best understood an attempt to create a secular theology – and failing dramatically, in competition with anglo reason law and empiricism. The French having killed off their aristocracy adopted a feminine group strategy of aggressive national socialism and moralizing. The jews attempted to create a system of undermining for each class, as always, as is their group strategy. The Russians used literature which was perhaps the most successful attempt to create a secular theology.
There is only one starting point from which all social and political strategy evolves, and that is eugenic or dysgenic. It’s whether to pursue a european aristocratic, productive, and eugenic order, a far eastern centralized bureaucratic eugenic order, or a hindu decentralized harmonious genetically hierarchical order or a semitic underclass parasitic and dysgenic order.
—“ The typology could be set down as follows:
Christianity—the Individual & his moral powers
Liberalism—the Individual & his cognitive powers
Communism—Society as historical & material totality
Fascism—Society as historical & spiritual totality”—
How would you restate those as the necessary strategies of groups given their geographic, strategic, military, demographic, class, and economic structures?
TECHNIQUE:
Theology(christianity) > Reason(Continental liberalism) > Science (Anglo Rule of Law) > Secular Theology (communism: pseudoscience, rebellion, fascism, restoration).
INSIGHT
It’s hard to explain spirituality to people in scientific terms because it deprives them of some of the utility of it. But it’s a mammalian response that is triggered by submission to the pack response, and the pace of mind that comes from doing so. In effect, it’s the feeling of running with the pack. Which is the only time we are ‘whole’ instead of individual super predators living in a continuous competition on many levels.
So it’s better to ask, what each of these innovations was trying to achieve by providing the populi with mindfulness (spiritual comfort) in knowing that they’re running with the pack so to speak, and in safety, and not left behind. And yes we can measure this response.
—“More interestingly, communism & fascism, in seeing society through a totalising historical lens, are much closer to each other than to their theological progenitor (Christianity) or first competitor (liberalism).”—
Well, that’s because judaism, Christianity and Islam were rebellions against aristocracy, meritocracy, literacy, mathematics, and reason – particularly ‘truth’. And liberalism was a rebellion against church and state using meritocracy literacy, mathematics, reason, and empiricism. And communism and it’s counter-revolution (fascism) was a rebellion against the industrial revolution and the rapid decline in the value of labor (which is continuing).
CLOSING
So, think of it that just as we have arithmetic, geometry, calculus, and physics, chemistry, biology, that we can communicate in theology, philosophy, science and describe peoples INCENTIVES as spiritual, moral, and rational. But at all times we are producing language that provides utility in the real world – just calculating it in more intuitionistic, more rational, or more empirical terms.
Anyway. Yes you are onto one of the general themes of history but you are operating in the continental model of secular theology not the anglo model of scientific incentives.
In my view the theological method has pretty much failed the west. The continental method has pretty much failed the west. And only the anglo method has succeeded, and that we are beset by superstition (islam), propaganda, pragmatism, and power (since method), and simple population pressure, and our problem is our christian tolerance.
LET’S GET DOWN TO IT. LIBERTARIANISM IS DEAD. AND WE WERE ALL USEFUL IDIOTS TO THE ENEMY
—“Let’s just get down to it. … libertarianism simply means you don’t f*** with people and leave them generally alone so long as they’re not messing with anyone and doing things wrong to other people directly and intentionally. The free market is the most important thing outside of that. We support family values and other things only for the purpose of having able bodies to then contribute to the free market with their mind in the right place.”— Kevin Flynn
^The problem is, that’s like marxism, in that it specifies goals, not means of achieving them (a sequence of testable operations) or the means of sustaining them. So it’s like saying “i wanna feel good’. It doesn’t mean anything other than whatever nonsense the individual dreams up in his head. Thats why it works. It’s the abrahamic means of suggestion. You actually supply whatever the meaning is, because there is no content to supply meaning in the statements.
So, let’s get down to it.
Libertarianism either means rule of law by reciprocity that insures us all against conflict, where conflict consists of imposition of costs upon the demonstrated interests of others (negatives), codified in tangible categories we call ‘property’ (positives), with MANDATORY contribution to the defense of rule of law from all enemies both external and internal that would seek to incrementally or radically impose violations of those interests, with the MARKET of competition for territory population and rule, determining the necessary mandatory contribution to the defense of that rule of law. Period.
Either that’s your definition, or you’re just making up fantasy stories like communism. In fact, that is what you’re doing, and what most libertarians are doing, they are promoting common property marxism, instead of private property marxism.
So no, “Lets Get Down To It” means libertarians are either demanding rule of law and contribution to the defense of it by reciprocal insurance of it, or they are just asking for communes with private instead of common property – which is exactly what the ‘inventors’ of left-propertarianism (leave me alone) indented you to think.
There is no such thing as “libertarianism”. There is just rule of law and the production of commons sufficient to preserve it. Sovereignty, liberty, and freedom cannot be produced by any other possible means.
Not Hoppe’s fantasy of recreating the German Free cities (by permission), or Rothbard’s dream of recreating the Pale of Settlement, or the Ghetto (by permission), or the dream of recreating the American frontier (by permission). There are no ‘borderlands’ left to settle on behalf of a state in exchange for defense but the ‘liberty’ to preserve local custom (which is the meaning of liberty.)
So I’ll call out all libertarians as Useful Idiots of the enemy. Suckers. Ass Clowns. There is no such thing as Libertarianism any More than there is such a thing as it’s mirror image: communism.
You’re either a Propertarian or a fucking idiot. And there isn’t any debate to be had. It’s not even open to discussion, only education.
One has liberty by permission of a state. One has freedom by permission of an owner. One has sovereignty because a group of men are willing and able to deny other men of any practical scale, from imposing something other than rule of law by reciprocity upon them.
LIBERTARIANISM CAN’T EXIST. It’s another false dichotomy like Socialism vs Capitalism.
There is only rule of law and the property that results from it, and the commons necessary to defend it, or there is rule by man and all are subjects to those who rule, with the degree of liberty, freedom, or slavery imposed upon them against their will – for having FAILED to produce a condition of sovereignty.
For this reason I call Propertarianism SOVEREIGNTARIANISM and I almost changed the name to it. And maybe I should have. Liberty consist of permission for those who live in border areas to have defense of superior peoples in exchange for temporarily holding territory – meaning, buying an option on territory – until sufficiently developed to rule, or sufficiently useful to exchange with a competitor.
Libertarians are beggars like marxists. Sovereigntarians are OWNERS of their territory, polity, institutions, norms, traditions, and all commons under their domain.
Libertarianism then is sophistry. We either are sovereigntarians descriptively, propertarians operationally, or absolute fking idiots practicing yet another sophomoric secular religion produced by the enemy, just like marxism, socialism, feminism, postmodernism, denialism, and the three abrahamic religions – although, we gotta give christianity a pass having been so thoroughly germanicized into a folk religion.
We are warriors. Or we are slaves.
Choose.
LET’S GET DOWN TO IT. LIBERTARIANISM IS DEAD. AND WE WERE ALL USEFUL IDIOTS TO THE ENEMY
—“Let’s just get down to it. … libertarianism simply means you don’t f*** with people and leave them generally alone so long as they’re not messing with anyone and doing things wrong to other people directly and intentionally. The free market is the most important thing outside of that. We support family values and other things only for the purpose of having able bodies to then contribute to the free market with their mind in the right place.”— Kevin Flynn
^The problem is, that’s like marxism, in that it specifies goals, not means of achieving them (a sequence of testable operations) or the means of sustaining them. So it’s like saying “i wanna feel good’. It doesn’t mean anything other than whatever nonsense the individual dreams up in his head. Thats why it works. It’s the abrahamic means of suggestion. You actually supply whatever the meaning is, because there is no content to supply meaning in the statements.
So, let’s get down to it.
Libertarianism either means rule of law by reciprocity that insures us all against conflict, where conflict consists of imposition of costs upon the demonstrated interests of others (negatives), codified in tangible categories we call ‘property’ (positives), with MANDATORY contribution to the defense of rule of law from all enemies both external and internal that would seek to incrementally or radically impose violations of those interests, with the MARKET of competition for territory population and rule, determining the necessary mandatory contribution to the defense of that rule of law. Period.
Either that’s your definition, or you’re just making up fantasy stories like communism. In fact, that is what you’re doing, and what most libertarians are doing, they are promoting common property marxism, instead of private property marxism.
So no, “Lets Get Down To It” means libertarians are either demanding rule of law and contribution to the defense of it by reciprocal insurance of it, or they are just asking for communes with private instead of common property – which is exactly what the ‘inventors’ of left-propertarianism (leave me alone) indented you to think.
There is no such thing as “libertarianism”. There is just rule of law and the production of commons sufficient to preserve it. Sovereignty, liberty, and freedom cannot be produced by any other possible means.
Not Hoppe’s fantasy of recreating the German Free cities (by permission), or Rothbard’s dream of recreating the Pale of Settlement, or the Ghetto (by permission), or the dream of recreating the American frontier (by permission). There are no ‘borderlands’ left to settle on behalf of a state in exchange for defense but the ‘liberty’ to preserve local custom (which is the meaning of liberty.)
So I’ll call out all libertarians as Useful Idiots of the enemy. Suckers. Ass Clowns. There is no such thing as Libertarianism any More than there is such a thing as it’s mirror image: communism.
You’re either a Propertarian or a fucking idiot. And there isn’t any debate to be had. It’s not even open to discussion, only education.
One has liberty by permission of a state. One has freedom by permission of an owner. One has sovereignty because a group of men are willing and able to deny other men of any practical scale, from imposing something other than rule of law by reciprocity upon them.
LIBERTARIANISM CAN’T EXIST. It’s another false dichotomy like Socialism vs Capitalism.
There is only rule of law and the property that results from it, and the commons necessary to defend it, or there is rule by man and all are subjects to those who rule, with the degree of liberty, freedom, or slavery imposed upon them against their will – for having FAILED to produce a condition of sovereignty.
For this reason I call Propertarianism SOVEREIGNTARIANISM and I almost changed the name to it. And maybe I should have. Liberty consist of permission for those who live in border areas to have defense of superior peoples in exchange for temporarily holding territory – meaning, buying an option on territory – until sufficiently developed to rule, or sufficiently useful to exchange with a competitor.
Libertarians are beggars like marxists. Sovereigntarians are OWNERS of their territory, polity, institutions, norms, traditions, and all commons under their domain.
Libertarianism then is sophistry. We either are sovereigntarians descriptively, propertarians operationally, or absolute fking idiots practicing yet another sophomoric secular religion produced by the enemy, just like marxism, socialism, feminism, postmodernism, denialism, and the three abrahamic religions – although, we gotta give christianity a pass having been so thoroughly germanicized into a folk religion.
We are warriors. Or we are slaves.
Choose.
But a deeper question is, Why? What is it about the progressive mind that makes it so vulnerable to this type of extreme out-group empathy?
The proposed reasons are many. Today we offer up a selection that may help us better grasp what we’re dealing with when faced with a fervent Multiculturalist who seems immune to all fact and logic.
Before we talk about progressives in particular, let’s look at us WEIRDs in general (Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic). (Or WEIRDOs, if one adds ‘Outbred.’)
A hundred years ago, prominent leftists like J.A. Hobson could speak of the ‘backward races’ or the ‘non-adult races’ without anyone batting an eye. Today not even the rightest of the right-wing could utter such a phrase without being pilloried. As this Overton window shift testifies, today’s Anglo-Germanics have become far more open to outsiders than pretty much anyone in human history.
Our hunter-gatherer past: To be in the out-group meant instant death
Let’s go back as far as we can. It cannot be stressed enough that out-group enmity is the historical norm in all populations. We come from small hunter-gatherer groups; our oldest and deepest instincts are ‘trust closest family; be ready to kill all others.’ (Rushton, Diamond) As E.O. Wilson says, ‘the selection pressures of hunter-gatherer existence have persisted for over 99% of human genetic evolution.’ This is our common genetic heritage.
So how did we get from ‘kill all outsiders’ to ‘welcome all outsiders’ and, why not, even ‘let them kill us‘? The long path to our pathologically high-trust present is still a mystery. Some possibilities:
a) ColdWinters Theory
Did our ancestors’ environments determine our propensity to cooperate with others? (ImageSources)
Different theories on the question have been put forward by HBD thinkers. Most well-known is Richard Lynn’s ‘Cold Winters theory’, which was taken up by Edward Miller as ‘Parental Investment’:In cold climates males were selected for provisioning, rather than for mating success. … Negroids (blacks) evolved in warm climates, while Caucasians (whites) and Mongoloids (Asians) evolved in colder climates. Mating is assisted by a strong sex drive, aggression, dominance, sociability, extraversion,impulsiveness, sensation seeking, and high testosterone. Provisioning is assisted by anxiety, altruism, empathy, behavioral restraint, gratification delay, and a long life span.
b)Hunting-Gathering to Agriculture
From hunting to farming: The Great Pacification?
Many researchers believe the very first large farming settlements (of which there is evidence going back to at least 7500 B.C.) were probably violent places, and that the first social controls mandating out-group cooperation were born here. Cochran and Harpending:
Farming led to elites, and there was no avoiding their power. … The old-style, independent-minded personalities that had worked well among hunter-gatherers were obsolete. … Since the elites were in a very real sense raising peasants, just as peasants raised cows, there must have been a tendency for them to cull individuals who were more aggressive than average, which over time would have changed the frequency of those alleles that induced such aggressiveness. (1)
Peter Frost:Male combativeness is especially strong in highland pastoral societies beyond the reach of State control. … If highland pastoral societies represent one end of this behavioral continuum, the other end seems to be the low-lying farming societies of east and southeast Asia, where State formation, rice farming, and sedentary life favored collectivism over individualism anda general pacification of social relations.
David H. Fisher in Albion’s Seed talks about settlers from the violent, arid border regions of Scotland and England in our southern back country:
The people of this region were intensely resistant to change and suspicious of “foreigners.” One student of the Appalachian dialect found that “the word foreigner itself is used here [in Appalachia] in its Elizabethan sense of someone who is the same nationality as the speaker, but not from the speaker’s immediate area.” All the world seemed foreign to the backsettlers except their neighbors and kin. … (2)
Nisbett and Cohen, in Culture of Honor, also argue that in the southern U.S. the ‘honor culture’ and suspicion of outsiders still persists today, as seen in the customs, behaviors, and crime rates of the U.S. South’s Euro population. (3)
Herding camels in India,llamas & alpacas in Peru,yaks in the Himalayas2) Cultural pressures
We have seen that our natural environment has perhaps shaped our attitude towards out-groups in various ways. But what about cultural pressures?
a) Family formationOutbreeding
Cousin marriage was once the norm in most places; today it has died out in much of the world:
Image source
Steve Sailer, in his 2003 ‘The Cousin Marriage Conundrum,’ was the first journalist to succintly point out the problems of societal trust where cousin-marriage is prominent:
By fostering intense family loyalties and strong nepotistic urges, inbreeding makes the development of civil society more difficult. … Extended families that are incredibly tightly bound are really the enemy of civil society because the alliances of family override any consideration of fairness to people in the larger society.
From HBD Chick, ‘Tribes and types of cousin marriage’
No one has done more to try to pick apart the biological ‘why’ of high- and low-trust peoples than HBD Chick. Her online research on the history of cousin-marriage is unmatched. (Consult her blog for a wealth of data on consanguinity around the world; see also JayMan’s detailed sum-up.) As she has shown, while Muslims favored inbreeding, the early Church pushed outbreeding.
According to her theory, the most familistic, out-group-wary peoples on the planet today are those with the longest histories of inbreeding, and the high-commonweal folks are those who stamped out cousin marriage first–notably NW Europeans. (See also JayMan.)
Manorialism
Many have noted that Latins and especially Slavs appear less outgroup-welcoming than Anglo-Germanics. Drawing on Mitterauer, Todd, Clark, and others, HBD Chick has argued that the Germanic ‘core’ of Northern Europe (inside the Hajnal line) underwent a series of unusual selection pressures (see her outstanding piece here, alsoJayMan and Peter Frost). Among them were manorialism:
Early manorialism and modern corruption inside the Hajnal Line (HBD Chick)
In the bipartite manor system, peasants or serfs … lived on and managed their own farms (let out to them by the manor owner) and also worked on the manor or paid rent to the manor. Extended families very much did not fit into the manor system as it operated in Western Europe. So manorialism — at least western manorialism — “pushed” for the nuclear family.
This system seems to have fostered individualism, commonweal-orientation, civicness, less violence–and, who knows, the seeds of our extreme out-group empathy?
b) Printing press
Cultural pressures can come from new technologies as well. For Steven Pinker, the ‘better angels of our nature’ have pushed us to be more out-group friendly, first and foremost due to mass literacy:
The growth of writing and literacy strikes me as the best candidate for an exogenous change that helped set off the Humanitarian Revolution. … Reading is a technology for perspective-taking. When someone else’s thoughts are in your head, you are observing the world from that person’s vantage point. … you have stepped inside that person’s mind and are temporarily sharing his or her attitudes and reactions.
Did novel-reading turn us empathetic?
… Around the same time that Uncle Tom’s Cabin mobilized abolitionist sentiment in the United States, Charles Dickens’s Oliver Twist (1838) and Nicholas Nickleby (1839) opened people’s eyes to the mistreatment of children in British workhouses and orphanages, and Richard Henry Dana’s Two Years Before the Mast: A Personal Narrative of Life at Sea (1840) and Herman Melville’s White Jacket helped end the flogging of sailors. (5)
Personality blogger Staffan is skeptical:I believe that the people [John] Locke and others addressed were already equipped with a wide capacity for empathy. When they heard of other people around the world and the arguments on how they should be treated, they responded accordingly…
Staffan’s major beef with Pinker:
…Width of empathy is only large in Northwest Europeans and their descendants. People sometimes referred to as WEIRD (Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic). … The rest of the world is not very impressed by Enlightenment ideals and it never was.
Another cultural pressure is that of dense urban vs. loose rural living. As noted above, Cochran and Harpending surmised that the first large settlements of 10,000 years ago likely tamed our fiercest out-group murderousness.
The ‘city mouse / country mouse spat’ is in any case as old as recorded history. From Aesop’s fable , after Country Mouse feasts in town with his City Cousin and is attacked by cats and dogs:
The Country Mouse said, “No, no; I shall be off as fast as I can. I would rather have a crust with peace and quietness, than all your fine things in the midst of such alarms and frights as these.”
For millennia the peasant has been mocked as a hidebound simpleton, the city-dweller as an effete dandy. (Not without reason.) But the Romes and Baghdads were the exception– for most of the last 10,000 years, we’ve been 95% rural-dwellers. Only today, post-Industrial Revolution, has that ratio nearly reversed itself.
Voting patterns show that city folk tend to vote left and country folk right (click to enlarge):
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So do cities turn people liberal, or are liberals drawn to live in cities? According to Pew, it’s the latter:
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But this can be a chicken-and-egg question: Are conservatives drawn to the countryside and liberals to the city because that’s where they perceive others like themselves to be? Does growing up in a city–which more of us do now then at any time in history– push people to more out-group tolerance? Since we were 95% rural folk for most of history, but are today less than 20%…
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…could this new way of living be pushing us to a ‘bigger circle of empathy’?
d) Wealth
GDP per capita, Eurozone (pre-crisis)
Can greater wealth itself become a cultural pressure? Ronald Inglehart of the World Values Survey thinks so. He claims that in general, as a people grows wealthier, it becomes more out-group tolerant:
[Economic] development is linked with a syndrome of predictable changes away from absolute social norms, toward increasingly rational, tolerant, trusting, and postmodern values. But culture is path dependent. The fact that a society was historically Protestant or Orthodox or Islamic or Confucian gives rise to cultural zones with highly distinctive value systems that persist when we control for the effects of economic development. (6)
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Inglehart was the first to place the world’s countries on a scatter plot according to two value axes: “traditional <–> secular” and “survival <–> self-expression”:
TRADITIONAL / SECULAR
… Societies at the traditional pole emphasize religion, absolute standards, and traditional family values; favor large families; reject divorce; and take a pro-life stance on abortion, euthanasia, and suicide. They emphasize social conformity rather than individualistic achievement, favor consensus rather than open political conflict, support deference to authority, and have high levels of national pride and a nationalistic outlook. (Societies with secular-rational values have the opposite preferences on all these topics.)
Image source: WVS (click to enlarge)SURVIVAL / SELF-EXPRESSIONSocieties that emphasize survival values show relatively low levels of subjective well-being, report relatively poor health, are low on interpersonal trust, are relatively intolerant toward outgroups, are low on support for gender equality, emphasize materialist values, have relatively high levels of faith in science and technology, are relatively low on environmental activism, and are relatively favorable to authoritarian government. (Societies that emphasize self-expression values tend to have the opposite preferences on all these topics.) (6)
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Extensive evidence indicates that these values tap an intergenerational shift from emphasis on economic and physical security toward increasing emphasis on self-expression, subjective well-being, and quality of life … it seems to emerge among birth cohorts that have grown up under conditions in which survival is taken for granted.
These generations ‘free from all want’ are quite new, and are mostly found in the West. Could this help explain our current crop of hothouse flowers, so blithely trusting of outsiders?
3) Group Pressures
In addition to our natural environment and cultural pressures, many feel that certain groups have had an outsized effect on our level of empathy to outsiders.
a) Women
Suffragettes, target of mockery
In the West, the industrial revolution led to countless changes, including that of the rise of women as a ‘lobby.’ Some warned of trouble ahead. Author Madeleine V. Dahlgren, in 1871:
The special advantage as a safe advisor to man that woman holds at present arises entirely from the neutral ground she occupies in the political world. Were she herself to enter the arena her ardent impulses would lead her to the most dangerous experiments. The fact is, women reason less and feel more deeply than men.
… Involved in one common ruin from our present proud preeminence, [after women’s suffrage] we shall become a laughing-stock and a by-word to the nations of the world.
Addressing the Mont Pelerin Society 30 years ago, Wellesley’s Brigitte Berger aptly predicted the feminization to come:
The general acceptance of the feminist definition of private and public life in the Western democracies as the new orthodoxy, in conjunction with the prescriptive thrust of feminism, result in the feminization of politics, the feminization of the economy and the feminization of the culture. Taken together we may thus speak of the ascent of a new sentimental imperialism.(The ‘old sentimental imperialism’ is well laid out in Chapter 3 of Hobson’s 1905 Imperialism, A Study. Our work on the subject can be found here.)
the feminist vision that seeks to radically transform world culture. we can humanize the machinery of politics instead of women having to become more like men, men will have to become more like women.
The Zeroeth Amendment (from Steve Sailer)
Men are supposed to be the hard-headed ones, women the soft-headed. Has this ‘feminization of politics’ led to what Steve Sailer calls ‘Invade the World, Invite the World’ (democratize the poor dears by force and if that doesn’t work, invite them all here) and ‘the Zeroeth Amendment’ (everyone on Planet Earth has the right to immigrate to the U.S.)?
It is impossible to say with surety that women’s entry into politics has led to more out-group friendly policies, but the evidence is intriguing.
We have seen that the early Church’s anti-inbreeding push changed family formation and thus values in Europe. Could the later influence of the Protestant and Catholic churches have affected our out-group feelings as well? Or is that the cart before the horse– are the out-group tolerant more likely to become Protestant in the first place? Inglehart:
… As the figure demonstrates, virtually all historically Protestant societies rank higher on interpersonal trust than virtually all historically Catholic societies. This holds true even when we control for levels of economic development: interpersonal trust is significantly correlated with the society’s level of GNP/capita, but even rich Catholic societies rank lower than equally prosperous historically Protestant societies. (6)
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Paul Gottfried also posited a Protestant connection in Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt:
Even relatively tolerant Anglo-American peoples until recently did not behave with deference toward those recently arrived and culturally alien. … The desperate efforts now being made by Western countries, particularly by Protestant ones, to raise themselves morally by receiving populations entirely “distinct” from themselves is not a continuation of older attitudes toward immigration.
… Without the guilt ethic preached by contemporary Christianity, it would be hard to imagine the sweeping affirmations now taking place about the moral superiority of alien cultures. (10)
c) Communists
What about the influence that communist government–or lack of one–can have? Inglehart:
A heritage of communist rule also seems to have an impact on this variable, with virtually all ex-communist societies ranking relatively low. Accordingly, historically Protestant societies that experienced communist rule, such as East Germany and Latvia, show relatively low levels of interpersonal trust. (6)
He is referring to the graph just above, but here is a more recent WVS meausure of societal trust vs. corruption around the world–note Eastern European countries in light blue:
But this too becomes chicken-and-egg—How many countries adopted communism because it was congenial to their character, versus having it thrust upon them by outsiders?
Whatever the cause, during the recent Merkel-imposed immivasion, the old Eastern Bloc countries have shown themselves strangely immune to the siren song of Multicultism.
Many complain that academia has taken a big role in pushing for ever more out-group tolerance:During the past quarter-century, academia has seen a nearly 20-percent jump in the number of professors who identify as liberal. That increase has created a lopsided ideological spread in higher education, with liberal professors now outpacing their conservative counterparts by a ratio of roughly 5 to 1.
Thirty years ago in his Closing of the American Mind, Allan Bloom was sounding the alarm on college indoctrination:
So indiscriminateness is a moral imperative because its opposite is discrimination. This folly means that men are not permitted to seek for the natural human good … Instinct and intellect must be suppressed by education.
He warned about being too pliant with out-groups:
That dominant majority gave the country a dominant culture with its traditions, its literature, its tastes, its special claim to know and supervise the language, and its Protestant religions. Much of the intellectual machinery of twentieth-century American political thought and social science was constructed for the purposes of making an assault on that majority … in favor of a nation of minorities and groups each following its own beliefs and inclinations.
… None of this concerns those who promote the new curriculum. The point is to propagandize acceptance of different ways … Practically all that young Americans have today is an insubstantial awareness that there are many cultures, accompanied by a saccharine moral drawn from that awareness:We should all get along. Why fight? (7)
Bloom himself probably couldn’t have imagined how far this snowball would roll:
Though today the notion has become dangerously unfashionable, one cannot deny the outsized influence the Jewish diaspora has had on multiculturalism in the West. Evolutionary psychologist Kevin MacDonald:
Studies in Prejudice and, especially, The Authoritarian Personality attempt to show that gentile group affiliations, and particularly membership in Christian religious sects, gentile nationalism, and close family relationships, are an indication of psychiatric disorder. At a deep level the work of the Frankfurt School is addressed to altering Western societies in an attempt to make them resistant to anti-Semitism by pathologizing gentile group affiliations.
A consistent theme of The Authoritarian Personality is the idea that gentile participation in cohesive groups with high levels of social conformity is pathological, whereas similar behavior of Jews … is ignored.
Double standard?
A common component of anti-Semitism among academics during the Weimar period was a perception that Jews attempted to undermine patriotic commitment and social cohesion of society. (8)
This list of environmental as well as cultural pressures has, we hope, helped to give some clues as to how the Overton window could have shifted so far left on questions involving out-groups (segregation, immigration, interracial marriage / adoption, etc). Put simply, all ethnic NW Euros today–right and left–have a historically unprecedented level of out-group empathy.
So now we come to the real object of our study: the dyed-in-the-wool leftist. As we have seen, he has been gripped devilishly hard by the The Anti-racist / Multiculturalist fervor.
Progressive passion play
But why? What is it about his worldview that makes him so vulnerable to this kind of dogmatism?
Why Progressives Are the Most Zealous
Stephen Pinker in his 2002 classic The Blank Slate laid out the differences between (among others) male and female brains.
In their 2013 Predisposed: Liberals, Conservatives, and the Biology of Political Differences, Hibbing, Alford, and Smith have done the same for liberals and conservatives.
It may help us to sympathize a bit more with the fervent blank-slatist, as there’s a good chance he was, in fact, ‘born this way.’ What is the evidence?
1) Character traits
Hibbing et al. found evidence that self-identified liberals and conservatives differ on a great deal more than just economic policy.
a) Preferences
Via a variety of studies and online polls, they posit that there are real lefty and righty differences in (9):
food preference (greens vs. meat)
humor preference (resolution of incongruity or not)
favorite fiction (ambiguity vs. clear resolution)
favorite art (abstract vs. representational)
Jackson Pollack, Nicolas Poussin
personal space orderliness (less vs. more)
car preference (Volvo vs. Porsche for rich, Japanese vs. American for poor)
Rich lefty, rich righty
choice of investment stocks (high-tech vs. heavy industry)
b) Values
Via values studies, Hibbing et al. find even more variation in the personality of righties and lefties.
We here at TWCS are peering into the liberal mind. But as Hibbing et al. point out, since the age of the great totalitarianisms, most researchers have been trying to pin down the supposed right-wing ‘authoritarian personality.’ Theodor Adorno (cited above) wrote the best-known work on this elusive ‘authoritarian’ who walks among us.
Researchers have tried to tease out this creature via scales: Adorno’s colleague Frenkel-Brunswick and her ‘F-scale’ (for ‘fascism’), Glenn Wilson and his ‘C-scale‘ (‘conservatism’), Robert Altemeyer and his ‘RWA‘ (‘right-wing authoritarian’ index). Hibbings et al. bemoan the fact that the left-wing authoritarian personality has been so little studied, with Hans Eysenck the only one venturing down this path. (9)
Other values scales may be more familiar to us:
The ‘Big 5’ from Goldberg and Costa & McCrae (Openness / Conscientiousness / Extraversion / Agreeableness / Neuroticism),
‘HEXACO’ from Ashton & Lee (Honesty-Humility / Emotionality / Extraversion / Agreeableness / Conscientiousness / Openness), and
For the Big 5, left-wing voting is associated with high Openness, right-wing voting with high Conscientiousness.
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(You can see where you fall on the Big 5 traits here.)
For Haidt’s ‘Moral Foundations’ theory, concern about Harm and Fairness are associated with voting left; concern about Purity, Loyalty, and Authority with voting right:
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(You can see where you fall on Haidt’s ‘moral foundations’ here.)
(A study on HEXACO and politics can be found here; see also JayMan’s workon HEXACO.)In a nutshell, then, personality studies seem to line up well with voting–one may almost speak of a leftist and rightist personality ‘type.’
2) Lab studies
Cultural preferences and personality traits aren’t the only ways in which lefty and righty minds seem to differ. Once in the lab, things become even starker.
Via a variety of lab tests, Hibbing et al. show lefty and righty differences in:
Ability to taste PTC (compound giving bitter taste to veggies such as arugula)
Arugula again
Ability to smell androstenone / finding its smell pleasant (linked to testosterone) (more accepting of social hierarchies–righty)
Our findings suggest that liberals are more influenced by social cues—even when told to explicitly ignore those cues. Conservatives seem to be more willing or able to ignore cues and follow the rules that govern the situation. … We found that conservatives were more likely to believe it is “better” for people not to be influenced by where others are looking, while liberals were just the opposite. (9)
Placing objects in categories (e.g. zoo vs farm animals–righties are ‘hard’ and lefties ‘soft’ categorizers)
Picking ‘good’ and ‘bad’ beans in the game BeanFest
Not to go too into detail (see study), but a lab game called ‘BeanFest’ showed big variance in lefty and righty thought. Beans with different spots pop up, some add points, some subtract points. You have to suss out which are which, and remember for when they flash on the screen again.
(You can play BeanFest here.)
It did not take long for the researchers to note that people varied widely in the way they played BeanFest. Some threw caution to the wind and accepted beans with abandon. This meant they gained and lost a lot of points but also collected substantial amounts of information about the value of the various beans. Others were much more wary, accepting just a few beans at first and then only accepting subsequent beans that matched the few types known to be good.
(One guess as to which political orientation was which.) After the game, the players were given a test to see what they’d retained:
Liberals were just a bit better at remembering which beans were bad than they were at remembering which beans were good; however, there was no such approximate balance for conservatives—they knew a bad bean when they saw one. Actually, they knew a bad bean even when they didn’t see one. Conservatives were way better than liberals at correctly identifying bad beans, but they were also more likely to miscategorize good beans as bad. (9)
So this is our leftist: Curious, incautious, resists negativity, embraces the new and the ambiguous, even to his detriment? One begins to see a certain logic in his attraction to Multiculturalism.
Be that as it may, couldn’t these differences just as well come from nurture as nature? Isn’t all of this highly malleable?
3) Biological differences
As it turns out, looking into the body itself, one can see political differences in our very biology.
Will they vote the same?Twin studies going back to 1986 have shown likely genetic links to political beliefs. More recent studies, such as Hatemi and McDermott (2012), have tried to break down the nature and nurture of ideology.
In the following graph pink is identical twins, blue is fraternal. We see how closely the two types of twins’ political views sync up throughout life:
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In this graph, based on 38 years of twin studies, the authors claim that ‘overall ideology’ (liberal-conservative) is almost 60% genetic (click to enlarge):
Image source(See also JayMan’s discussionof Hatemi et al.’s 2010 paper.)
In Predisposed, based on various lab studies, Hibbing et al. find lefty and right differences in (9):
The DRD4 allele + a high number of friends affects one’s political orientation
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It is looking more and more like our affection for the outsider (or lack thereof) may have deep genetic roots.
* * *
After dissecting the leftist mind, Hibbing et al. try to explain these creatures to the conservative:
All this makes liberals far more trusting than they have any right to be, but it is important to realize that this is not because they are foolish or lazy but rather because they are structured in such a way that prevents them from appreciating the obvious dangers swirling about. …. Their first instinct is to assume individuals in faraway lands are trustworthy.
Did not look before she leapt
They love experiences that might take them off the beaten track. They seem not to look before they leap. … They don’t seem to consider, let alone mind, the fact that this openness raises the possibility that they could be taken in by evildoers. (9)
The authors also point to a likely genetic origin:
Our best guess is that in the rough and tumble of the Pleistocene, individuals who tried new things, opened themselves up to members of other tribes, and had little to no negativity bias were rare—it simply seems a losing long-term strategy in the face of all the dangers swirling about.
… Selection pressures in such environments would likely favor individuals with higher degrees of negativity bias, who approached novel situations with caution, who were loyal to their group, and who were suspicious of the tribe over the hill.
Our ultra-safe, coddled modern life has thus allowed that once-rare beast, the liberal, to be fruitful and multiply? Perhaps. (SeeJayMan on this.) They warn:
Liberalism may thus be viewed as an evolutionary luxury afforded by negative stimuli becoming less prevalent and less deadly. If the environment shifted back to the threat-filled atmosphere of the Pleistocene, positive selection for conservative orientations would reappear and, with sufficient time, become as prevalent as it was then. (9)
The question ‘Why are leftists so prone to Multicult fundamentalism?’, then, may have many answers. But we at TWCS feel the genetic aspect absolutely cannot be ignored. We would do well to keep this in mind at our moment of highest frustration:
Are we in fact trying to argue someone out of a belief which is simply a product of his own hard-wiring?
Religions wax and wane in strength. Ideologies, like fashions, come and go. Whatever its origin may be, let us hope that this particularly pernicious anti-racist faith loosens its grip on us before the body count grows any higher.
Thank you for reading.
Previously:When Progressives Get ReligionREFERENCES
(1) Harpending, Henry and Cochran, Gregory, The 10,000 Year Explosion, NY: Basic Books, 2009.
(2) Fischer, David Hackett, Albion’s Seed, Oxford University Press, 1989.
(3) Nisbett, Richard and Cohen, Dov, Culture of Honor, Westview Press, 1996.
(4) Clark, Gregory, A Farewell to Alms, Princeton U. Press, 2009.
(5) Pinker, Steven, The Better Angels of our Nature, NY: Viking, 2011.
(6) Inglehart, Ronald, “Culture and Democracy,” in Harrison, Lawrence and Huntington, Samuel (editors), Culture Matters, NY: Basic Books, 2000
(7) Bloom, Allan, The Closing of the American Mind, NY: Simon & Schuster, 1987.
(8) MacDonald, Kevin, The Culture of Critique, First Books Library, 2002.
(9) Hibbing, John R.; Smith, Kevin B.; Alford, John R., Predisposed: Liberals, Conservatives, and the Biology of Political Differences, Routledge, 2013.
(10) Gottfried, Paul E., Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt: Towards a Secular Theocracy, U. of Missouri Press, 2002.
But a deeper question is, Why? What is it about the progressive mind that makes it so vulnerable to this type of extreme out-group empathy?
The proposed reasons are many. Today we offer up a selection that may help us better grasp what we’re dealing with when faced with a fervent Multiculturalist who seems immune to all fact and logic.
Before we talk about progressives in particular, let’s look at us WEIRDs in general (Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic). (Or WEIRDOs, if one adds ‘Outbred.’)
A hundred years ago, prominent leftists like J.A. Hobson could speak of the ‘backward races’ or the ‘non-adult races’ without anyone batting an eye. Today not even the rightest of the right-wing could utter such a phrase without being pilloried. As this Overton window shift testifies, today’s Anglo-Germanics have become far more open to outsiders than pretty much anyone in human history.
Our hunter-gatherer past: To be in the out-group meant instant death
Let’s go back as far as we can. It cannot be stressed enough that out-group enmity is the historical norm in all populations. We come from small hunter-gatherer groups; our oldest and deepest instincts are ‘trust closest family; be ready to kill all others.’ (Rushton, Diamond) As E.O. Wilson says, ‘the selection pressures of hunter-gatherer existence have persisted for over 99% of human genetic evolution.’ This is our common genetic heritage.
So how did we get from ‘kill all outsiders’ to ‘welcome all outsiders’ and, why not, even ‘let them kill us‘? The long path to our pathologically high-trust present is still a mystery. Some possibilities:
a) ColdWinters Theory
Did our ancestors’ environments determine our propensity to cooperate with others? (ImageSources)
Different theories on the question have been put forward by HBD thinkers. Most well-known is Richard Lynn’s ‘Cold Winters theory’, which was taken up by Edward Miller as ‘Parental Investment’:In cold climates males were selected for provisioning, rather than for mating success. … Negroids (blacks) evolved in warm climates, while Caucasians (whites) and Mongoloids (Asians) evolved in colder climates. Mating is assisted by a strong sex drive, aggression, dominance, sociability, extraversion,impulsiveness, sensation seeking, and high testosterone. Provisioning is assisted by anxiety, altruism, empathy, behavioral restraint, gratification delay, and a long life span.
b)Hunting-Gathering to Agriculture
From hunting to farming: The Great Pacification?
Many researchers believe the very first large farming settlements (of which there is evidence going back to at least 7500 B.C.) were probably violent places, and that the first social controls mandating out-group cooperation were born here. Cochran and Harpending:
Farming led to elites, and there was no avoiding their power. … The old-style, independent-minded personalities that had worked well among hunter-gatherers were obsolete. … Since the elites were in a very real sense raising peasants, just as peasants raised cows, there must have been a tendency for them to cull individuals who were more aggressive than average, which over time would have changed the frequency of those alleles that induced such aggressiveness. (1)
Peter Frost:Male combativeness is especially strong in highland pastoral societies beyond the reach of State control. … If highland pastoral societies represent one end of this behavioral continuum, the other end seems to be the low-lying farming societies of east and southeast Asia, where State formation, rice farming, and sedentary life favored collectivism over individualism anda general pacification of social relations.
David H. Fisher in Albion’s Seed talks about settlers from the violent, arid border regions of Scotland and England in our southern back country:
The people of this region were intensely resistant to change and suspicious of “foreigners.” One student of the Appalachian dialect found that “the word foreigner itself is used here [in Appalachia] in its Elizabethan sense of someone who is the same nationality as the speaker, but not from the speaker’s immediate area.” All the world seemed foreign to the backsettlers except their neighbors and kin. … (2)
Nisbett and Cohen, in Culture of Honor, also argue that in the southern U.S. the ‘honor culture’ and suspicion of outsiders still persists today, as seen in the customs, behaviors, and crime rates of the U.S. South’s Euro population. (3)
Herding camels in India,llamas & alpacas in Peru,yaks in the Himalayas2) Cultural pressures
We have seen that our natural environment has perhaps shaped our attitude towards out-groups in various ways. But what about cultural pressures?
a) Family formationOutbreeding
Cousin marriage was once the norm in most places; today it has died out in much of the world:
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Steve Sailer, in his 2003 ‘The Cousin Marriage Conundrum,’ was the first journalist to succintly point out the problems of societal trust where cousin-marriage is prominent:
By fostering intense family loyalties and strong nepotistic urges, inbreeding makes the development of civil society more difficult. … Extended families that are incredibly tightly bound are really the enemy of civil society because the alliances of family override any consideration of fairness to people in the larger society.
From HBD Chick, ‘Tribes and types of cousin marriage’
No one has done more to try to pick apart the biological ‘why’ of high- and low-trust peoples than HBD Chick. Her online research on the history of cousin-marriage is unmatched. (Consult her blog for a wealth of data on consanguinity around the world; see also JayMan’s detailed sum-up.) As she has shown, while Muslims favored inbreeding, the early Church pushed outbreeding.
According to her theory, the most familistic, out-group-wary peoples on the planet today are those with the longest histories of inbreeding, and the high-commonweal folks are those who stamped out cousin marriage first–notably NW Europeans. (See also JayMan.)
Manorialism
Many have noted that Latins and especially Slavs appear less outgroup-welcoming than Anglo-Germanics. Drawing on Mitterauer, Todd, Clark, and others, HBD Chick has argued that the Germanic ‘core’ of Northern Europe (inside the Hajnal line) underwent a series of unusual selection pressures (see her outstanding piece here, alsoJayMan and Peter Frost). Among them were manorialism:
Early manorialism and modern corruption inside the Hajnal Line (HBD Chick)
In the bipartite manor system, peasants or serfs … lived on and managed their own farms (let out to them by the manor owner) and also worked on the manor or paid rent to the manor. Extended families very much did not fit into the manor system as it operated in Western Europe. So manorialism — at least western manorialism — “pushed” for the nuclear family.
This system seems to have fostered individualism, commonweal-orientation, civicness, less violence–and, who knows, the seeds of our extreme out-group empathy?
b) Printing press
Cultural pressures can come from new technologies as well. For Steven Pinker, the ‘better angels of our nature’ have pushed us to be more out-group friendly, first and foremost due to mass literacy:
The growth of writing and literacy strikes me as the best candidate for an exogenous change that helped set off the Humanitarian Revolution. … Reading is a technology for perspective-taking. When someone else’s thoughts are in your head, you are observing the world from that person’s vantage point. … you have stepped inside that person’s mind and are temporarily sharing his or her attitudes and reactions.
Did novel-reading turn us empathetic?
… Around the same time that Uncle Tom’s Cabin mobilized abolitionist sentiment in the United States, Charles Dickens’s Oliver Twist (1838) and Nicholas Nickleby (1839) opened people’s eyes to the mistreatment of children in British workhouses and orphanages, and Richard Henry Dana’s Two Years Before the Mast: A Personal Narrative of Life at Sea (1840) and Herman Melville’s White Jacket helped end the flogging of sailors. (5)
Personality blogger Staffan is skeptical:I believe that the people [John] Locke and others addressed were already equipped with a wide capacity for empathy. When they heard of other people around the world and the arguments on how they should be treated, they responded accordingly…
Staffan’s major beef with Pinker:
…Width of empathy is only large in Northwest Europeans and their descendants. People sometimes referred to as WEIRD (Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic). … The rest of the world is not very impressed by Enlightenment ideals and it never was.
Another cultural pressure is that of dense urban vs. loose rural living. As noted above, Cochran and Harpending surmised that the first large settlements of 10,000 years ago likely tamed our fiercest out-group murderousness.
The ‘city mouse / country mouse spat’ is in any case as old as recorded history. From Aesop’s fable , after Country Mouse feasts in town with his City Cousin and is attacked by cats and dogs:
The Country Mouse said, “No, no; I shall be off as fast as I can. I would rather have a crust with peace and quietness, than all your fine things in the midst of such alarms and frights as these.”
For millennia the peasant has been mocked as a hidebound simpleton, the city-dweller as an effete dandy. (Not without reason.) But the Romes and Baghdads were the exception– for most of the last 10,000 years, we’ve been 95% rural-dwellers. Only today, post-Industrial Revolution, has that ratio nearly reversed itself.
Voting patterns show that city folk tend to vote left and country folk right (click to enlarge):
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So do cities turn people liberal, or are liberals drawn to live in cities? According to Pew, it’s the latter:
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But this can be a chicken-and-egg question: Are conservatives drawn to the countryside and liberals to the city because that’s where they perceive others like themselves to be? Does growing up in a city–which more of us do now then at any time in history– push people to more out-group tolerance? Since we were 95% rural folk for most of history, but are today less than 20%…
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…could this new way of living be pushing us to a ‘bigger circle of empathy’?
d) Wealth
GDP per capita, Eurozone (pre-crisis)
Can greater wealth itself become a cultural pressure? Ronald Inglehart of the World Values Survey thinks so. He claims that in general, as a people grows wealthier, it becomes more out-group tolerant:
[Economic] development is linked with a syndrome of predictable changes away from absolute social norms, toward increasingly rational, tolerant, trusting, and postmodern values. But culture is path dependent. The fact that a society was historically Protestant or Orthodox or Islamic or Confucian gives rise to cultural zones with highly distinctive value systems that persist when we control for the effects of economic development. (6)
Image source: WVS (click to enlarge)
Inglehart was the first to place the world’s countries on a scatter plot according to two value axes: “traditional <–> secular” and “survival <–> self-expression”:
TRADITIONAL / SECULAR
… Societies at the traditional pole emphasize religion, absolute standards, and traditional family values; favor large families; reject divorce; and take a pro-life stance on abortion, euthanasia, and suicide. They emphasize social conformity rather than individualistic achievement, favor consensus rather than open political conflict, support deference to authority, and have high levels of national pride and a nationalistic outlook. (Societies with secular-rational values have the opposite preferences on all these topics.)
Image source: WVS (click to enlarge)SURVIVAL / SELF-EXPRESSIONSocieties that emphasize survival values show relatively low levels of subjective well-being, report relatively poor health, are low on interpersonal trust, are relatively intolerant toward outgroups, are low on support for gender equality, emphasize materialist values, have relatively high levels of faith in science and technology, are relatively low on environmental activism, and are relatively favorable to authoritarian government. (Societies that emphasize self-expression values tend to have the opposite preferences on all these topics.) (6)
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Extensive evidence indicates that these values tap an intergenerational shift from emphasis on economic and physical security toward increasing emphasis on self-expression, subjective well-being, and quality of life … it seems to emerge among birth cohorts that have grown up under conditions in which survival is taken for granted.
These generations ‘free from all want’ are quite new, and are mostly found in the West. Could this help explain our current crop of hothouse flowers, so blithely trusting of outsiders?
3) Group Pressures
In addition to our natural environment and cultural pressures, many feel that certain groups have had an outsized effect on our level of empathy to outsiders.
a) Women
Suffragettes, target of mockery
In the West, the industrial revolution led to countless changes, including that of the rise of women as a ‘lobby.’ Some warned of trouble ahead. Author Madeleine V. Dahlgren, in 1871:
The special advantage as a safe advisor to man that woman holds at present arises entirely from the neutral ground she occupies in the political world. Were she herself to enter the arena her ardent impulses would lead her to the most dangerous experiments. The fact is, women reason less and feel more deeply than men.
… Involved in one common ruin from our present proud preeminence, [after women’s suffrage] we shall become a laughing-stock and a by-word to the nations of the world.
Addressing the Mont Pelerin Society 30 years ago, Wellesley’s Brigitte Berger aptly predicted the feminization to come:
The general acceptance of the feminist definition of private and public life in the Western democracies as the new orthodoxy, in conjunction with the prescriptive thrust of feminism, result in the feminization of politics, the feminization of the economy and the feminization of the culture. Taken together we may thus speak of the ascent of a new sentimental imperialism.(The ‘old sentimental imperialism’ is well laid out in Chapter 3 of Hobson’s 1905 Imperialism, A Study. Our work on the subject can be found here.)
the feminist vision that seeks to radically transform world culture. we can humanize the machinery of politics instead of women having to become more like men, men will have to become more like women.
The Zeroeth Amendment (from Steve Sailer)
Men are supposed to be the hard-headed ones, women the soft-headed. Has this ‘feminization of politics’ led to what Steve Sailer calls ‘Invade the World, Invite the World’ (democratize the poor dears by force and if that doesn’t work, invite them all here) and ‘the Zeroeth Amendment’ (everyone on Planet Earth has the right to immigrate to the U.S.)?
It is impossible to say with surety that women’s entry into politics has led to more out-group friendly policies, but the evidence is intriguing.
We have seen that the early Church’s anti-inbreeding push changed family formation and thus values in Europe. Could the later influence of the Protestant and Catholic churches have affected our out-group feelings as well? Or is that the cart before the horse– are the out-group tolerant more likely to become Protestant in the first place? Inglehart:
… As the figure demonstrates, virtually all historically Protestant societies rank higher on interpersonal trust than virtually all historically Catholic societies. This holds true even when we control for levels of economic development: interpersonal trust is significantly correlated with the society’s level of GNP/capita, but even rich Catholic societies rank lower than equally prosperous historically Protestant societies. (6)
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Paul Gottfried also posited a Protestant connection in Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt:
Even relatively tolerant Anglo-American peoples until recently did not behave with deference toward those recently arrived and culturally alien. … The desperate efforts now being made by Western countries, particularly by Protestant ones, to raise themselves morally by receiving populations entirely “distinct” from themselves is not a continuation of older attitudes toward immigration.
… Without the guilt ethic preached by contemporary Christianity, it would be hard to imagine the sweeping affirmations now taking place about the moral superiority of alien cultures. (10)
c) Communists
What about the influence that communist government–or lack of one–can have? Inglehart:
A heritage of communist rule also seems to have an impact on this variable, with virtually all ex-communist societies ranking relatively low. Accordingly, historically Protestant societies that experienced communist rule, such as East Germany and Latvia, show relatively low levels of interpersonal trust. (6)
He is referring to the graph just above, but here is a more recent WVS meausure of societal trust vs. corruption around the world–note Eastern European countries in light blue:
But this too becomes chicken-and-egg—How many countries adopted communism because it was congenial to their character, versus having it thrust upon them by outsiders?
Whatever the cause, during the recent Merkel-imposed immivasion, the old Eastern Bloc countries have shown themselves strangely immune to the siren song of Multicultism.
Many complain that academia has taken a big role in pushing for ever more out-group tolerance:During the past quarter-century, academia has seen a nearly 20-percent jump in the number of professors who identify as liberal. That increase has created a lopsided ideological spread in higher education, with liberal professors now outpacing their conservative counterparts by a ratio of roughly 5 to 1.
Thirty years ago in his Closing of the American Mind, Allan Bloom was sounding the alarm on college indoctrination:
So indiscriminateness is a moral imperative because its opposite is discrimination. This folly means that men are not permitted to seek for the natural human good … Instinct and intellect must be suppressed by education.
He warned about being too pliant with out-groups:
That dominant majority gave the country a dominant culture with its traditions, its literature, its tastes, its special claim to know and supervise the language, and its Protestant religions. Much of the intellectual machinery of twentieth-century American political thought and social science was constructed for the purposes of making an assault on that majority … in favor of a nation of minorities and groups each following its own beliefs and inclinations.
… None of this concerns those who promote the new curriculum. The point is to propagandize acceptance of different ways … Practically all that young Americans have today is an insubstantial awareness that there are many cultures, accompanied by a saccharine moral drawn from that awareness:We should all get along. Why fight? (7)
Bloom himself probably couldn’t have imagined how far this snowball would roll:
Though today the notion has become dangerously unfashionable, one cannot deny the outsized influence the Jewish diaspora has had on multiculturalism in the West. Evolutionary psychologist Kevin MacDonald:
Studies in Prejudice and, especially, The Authoritarian Personality attempt to show that gentile group affiliations, and particularly membership in Christian religious sects, gentile nationalism, and close family relationships, are an indication of psychiatric disorder. At a deep level the work of the Frankfurt School is addressed to altering Western societies in an attempt to make them resistant to anti-Semitism by pathologizing gentile group affiliations.
A consistent theme of The Authoritarian Personality is the idea that gentile participation in cohesive groups with high levels of social conformity is pathological, whereas similar behavior of Jews … is ignored.
Double standard?
A common component of anti-Semitism among academics during the Weimar period was a perception that Jews attempted to undermine patriotic commitment and social cohesion of society. (8)
This list of environmental as well as cultural pressures has, we hope, helped to give some clues as to how the Overton window could have shifted so far left on questions involving out-groups (segregation, immigration, interracial marriage / adoption, etc). Put simply, all ethnic NW Euros today–right and left–have a historically unprecedented level of out-group empathy.
So now we come to the real object of our study: the dyed-in-the-wool leftist. As we have seen, he has been gripped devilishly hard by the The Anti-racist / Multiculturalist fervor.
Progressive passion play
But why? What is it about his worldview that makes him so vulnerable to this kind of dogmatism?
Why Progressives Are the Most Zealous
Stephen Pinker in his 2002 classic The Blank Slate laid out the differences between (among others) male and female brains.
In their 2013 Predisposed: Liberals, Conservatives, and the Biology of Political Differences, Hibbing, Alford, and Smith have done the same for liberals and conservatives.
It may help us to sympathize a bit more with the fervent blank-slatist, as there’s a good chance he was, in fact, ‘born this way.’ What is the evidence?
1) Character traits
Hibbing et al. found evidence that self-identified liberals and conservatives differ on a great deal more than just economic policy.
a) Preferences
Via a variety of studies and online polls, they posit that there are real lefty and righty differences in (9):
food preference (greens vs. meat)
humor preference (resolution of incongruity or not)
favorite fiction (ambiguity vs. clear resolution)
favorite art (abstract vs. representational)
Jackson Pollack, Nicolas Poussin
personal space orderliness (less vs. more)
car preference (Volvo vs. Porsche for rich, Japanese vs. American for poor)
Rich lefty, rich righty
choice of investment stocks (high-tech vs. heavy industry)
b) Values
Via values studies, Hibbing et al. find even more variation in the personality of righties and lefties.
We here at TWCS are peering into the liberal mind. But as Hibbing et al. point out, since the age of the great totalitarianisms, most researchers have been trying to pin down the supposed right-wing ‘authoritarian personality.’ Theodor Adorno (cited above) wrote the best-known work on this elusive ‘authoritarian’ who walks among us.
Researchers have tried to tease out this creature via scales: Adorno’s colleague Frenkel-Brunswick and her ‘F-scale’ (for ‘fascism’), Glenn Wilson and his ‘C-scale‘ (‘conservatism’), Robert Altemeyer and his ‘RWA‘ (‘right-wing authoritarian’ index). Hibbings et al. bemoan the fact that the left-wing authoritarian personality has been so little studied, with Hans Eysenck the only one venturing down this path. (9)
Other values scales may be more familiar to us:
The ‘Big 5’ from Goldberg and Costa & McCrae (Openness / Conscientiousness / Extraversion / Agreeableness / Neuroticism),
‘HEXACO’ from Ashton & Lee (Honesty-Humility / Emotionality / Extraversion / Agreeableness / Conscientiousness / Openness), and
For the Big 5, left-wing voting is associated with high Openness, right-wing voting with high Conscientiousness.
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(You can see where you fall on the Big 5 traits here.)
For Haidt’s ‘Moral Foundations’ theory, concern about Harm and Fairness are associated with voting left; concern about Purity, Loyalty, and Authority with voting right:
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(You can see where you fall on Haidt’s ‘moral foundations’ here.)
(A study on HEXACO and politics can be found here; see also JayMan’s workon HEXACO.)In a nutshell, then, personality studies seem to line up well with voting–one may almost speak of a leftist and rightist personality ‘type.’
2) Lab studies
Cultural preferences and personality traits aren’t the only ways in which lefty and righty minds seem to differ. Once in the lab, things become even starker.
Via a variety of lab tests, Hibbing et al. show lefty and righty differences in:
Ability to taste PTC (compound giving bitter taste to veggies such as arugula)
Arugula again
Ability to smell androstenone / finding its smell pleasant (linked to testosterone) (more accepting of social hierarchies–righty)
Our findings suggest that liberals are more influenced by social cues—even when told to explicitly ignore those cues. Conservatives seem to be more willing or able to ignore cues and follow the rules that govern the situation. … We found that conservatives were more likely to believe it is “better” for people not to be influenced by where others are looking, while liberals were just the opposite. (9)
Placing objects in categories (e.g. zoo vs farm animals–righties are ‘hard’ and lefties ‘soft’ categorizers)
Picking ‘good’ and ‘bad’ beans in the game BeanFest
Not to go too into detail (see study), but a lab game called ‘BeanFest’ showed big variance in lefty and righty thought. Beans with different spots pop up, some add points, some subtract points. You have to suss out which are which, and remember for when they flash on the screen again.
(You can play BeanFest here.)
It did not take long for the researchers to note that people varied widely in the way they played BeanFest. Some threw caution to the wind and accepted beans with abandon. This meant they gained and lost a lot of points but also collected substantial amounts of information about the value of the various beans. Others were much more wary, accepting just a few beans at first and then only accepting subsequent beans that matched the few types known to be good.
(One guess as to which political orientation was which.) After the game, the players were given a test to see what they’d retained:
Liberals were just a bit better at remembering which beans were bad than they were at remembering which beans were good; however, there was no such approximate balance for conservatives—they knew a bad bean when they saw one. Actually, they knew a bad bean even when they didn’t see one. Conservatives were way better than liberals at correctly identifying bad beans, but they were also more likely to miscategorize good beans as bad. (9)
So this is our leftist: Curious, incautious, resists negativity, embraces the new and the ambiguous, even to his detriment? One begins to see a certain logic in his attraction to Multiculturalism.
Be that as it may, couldn’t these differences just as well come from nurture as nature? Isn’t all of this highly malleable?
3) Biological differences
As it turns out, looking into the body itself, one can see political differences in our very biology.
Will they vote the same?Twin studies going back to 1986 have shown likely genetic links to political beliefs. More recent studies, such as Hatemi and McDermott (2012), have tried to break down the nature and nurture of ideology.
In the following graph pink is identical twins, blue is fraternal. We see how closely the two types of twins’ political views sync up throughout life:
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In this graph, based on 38 years of twin studies, the authors claim that ‘overall ideology’ (liberal-conservative) is almost 60% genetic (click to enlarge):
Image source(See also JayMan’s discussionof Hatemi et al.’s 2010 paper.)
In Predisposed, based on various lab studies, Hibbing et al. find lefty and right differences in (9):
The DRD4 allele + a high number of friends affects one’s political orientation
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It is looking more and more like our affection for the outsider (or lack thereof) may have deep genetic roots.
* * *
After dissecting the leftist mind, Hibbing et al. try to explain these creatures to the conservative:
All this makes liberals far more trusting than they have any right to be, but it is important to realize that this is not because they are foolish or lazy but rather because they are structured in such a way that prevents them from appreciating the obvious dangers swirling about. …. Their first instinct is to assume individuals in faraway lands are trustworthy.
Did not look before she leapt
They love experiences that might take them off the beaten track. They seem not to look before they leap. … They don’t seem to consider, let alone mind, the fact that this openness raises the possibility that they could be taken in by evildoers. (9)
The authors also point to a likely genetic origin:
Our best guess is that in the rough and tumble of the Pleistocene, individuals who tried new things, opened themselves up to members of other tribes, and had little to no negativity bias were rare—it simply seems a losing long-term strategy in the face of all the dangers swirling about.
… Selection pressures in such environments would likely favor individuals with higher degrees of negativity bias, who approached novel situations with caution, who were loyal to their group, and who were suspicious of the tribe over the hill.
Our ultra-safe, coddled modern life has thus allowed that once-rare beast, the liberal, to be fruitful and multiply? Perhaps. (SeeJayMan on this.) They warn:
Liberalism may thus be viewed as an evolutionary luxury afforded by negative stimuli becoming less prevalent and less deadly. If the environment shifted back to the threat-filled atmosphere of the Pleistocene, positive selection for conservative orientations would reappear and, with sufficient time, become as prevalent as it was then. (9)
The question ‘Why are leftists so prone to Multicult fundamentalism?’, then, may have many answers. But we at TWCS feel the genetic aspect absolutely cannot be ignored. We would do well to keep this in mind at our moment of highest frustration:
Are we in fact trying to argue someone out of a belief which is simply a product of his own hard-wiring?
Religions wax and wane in strength. Ideologies, like fashions, come and go. Whatever its origin may be, let us hope that this particularly pernicious anti-racist faith loosens its grip on us before the body count grows any higher.
Thank you for reading.
Previously:When Progressives Get ReligionREFERENCES
(1) Harpending, Henry and Cochran, Gregory, The 10,000 Year Explosion, NY: Basic Books, 2009.
(2) Fischer, David Hackett, Albion’s Seed, Oxford University Press, 1989.
(3) Nisbett, Richard and Cohen, Dov, Culture of Honor, Westview Press, 1996.
(4) Clark, Gregory, A Farewell to Alms, Princeton U. Press, 2009.
(5) Pinker, Steven, The Better Angels of our Nature, NY: Viking, 2011.
(6) Inglehart, Ronald, “Culture and Democracy,” in Harrison, Lawrence and Huntington, Samuel (editors), Culture Matters, NY: Basic Books, 2000
(7) Bloom, Allan, The Closing of the American Mind, NY: Simon & Schuster, 1987.
(8) MacDonald, Kevin, The Culture of Critique, First Books Library, 2002.
(9) Hibbing, John R.; Smith, Kevin B.; Alford, John R., Predisposed: Liberals, Conservatives, and the Biology of Political Differences, Routledge, 2013.
(10) Gottfried, Paul E., Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt: Towards a Secular Theocracy, U. of Missouri Press, 2002.
If you want to overturn the government directly it might rally people against you but it’s possible to siege the capital. I wouldn’t recommend it. That’s a left tactic.
If you want to start a secession movement and take the center of the country, you take Texas because it has sufficient population, sufficient military resources, ports, a power grid, and one of the two mints. You move north using texas as a base, and cut off the rest of the country – but you have to do it fast. I don’t favor holding territory on the defense, it’s better to keep in constant motion.
If you want to take over the country you raid one of the more vulnerable immigrant or leftist cities, and overload it’s resources, and move on to the next in short order, leaving fires, power, water, communication, rail, and road (air doesn’t matter), although preventing landings at least is trivial.
If you want to win quickly you issue demands that people actually prefer to the current order, issue incentives to police, military, guard, and ‘civilian actors’, and then do three to four cities at once. It’s impossible to react to that. And it only takes ‘thousands’ per city.
Communication is more important than power. Power more important than money, money more important than transport, transport more important than political figures.
If you want to overturn the government directly it might rally people against you but it’s possible to siege the capital. I wouldn’t recommend it. That’s a left tactic.
If you want to start a secession movement and take the center of the country, you take Texas because it has sufficient population, sufficient military resources, ports, a power grid, and one of the two mints. You move north using texas as a base, and cut off the rest of the country – but you have to do it fast. I don’t favor holding territory on the defense, it’s better to keep in constant motion.
If you want to take over the country you raid one of the more vulnerable immigrant or leftist cities, and overload it’s resources, and move on to the next in short order, leaving fires, power, water, communication, rail, and road (air doesn’t matter), although preventing landings at least is trivial.
If you want to win quickly you issue demands that people actually prefer to the current order, issue incentives to police, military, guard, and ‘civilian actors’, and then do three to four cities at once. It’s impossible to react to that. And it only takes ‘thousands’ per city.
Communication is more important than power. Power more important than money, money more important than transport, transport more important than political figures.
by Daniel Roland Anderson
This is not only likely, it’s becoming inevitable.
Yeah, it still irritates me that you (Curt) got there early and took the heat, and now it’s nods and/crickets depending on the crowd.
“The president will call for mobilizing the National Guard. Some governors will refuse, and army units now overseas will be sent home to deal with the growing unrest. Mistakes will be made and there will be gunfire in the streets; people will die on both sides. The president will desperately call for martial law. ”
“Many Army, National Guard, and police will defect, or desert, or simply refuse orders.”
“What will happen after that is anybody’s guess.”
LINK:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/no_matter_who_wins_in_2020_there_will_be_blood.html
by Daniel Roland Anderson
This is not only likely, it’s becoming inevitable.
Yeah, it still irritates me that you (Curt) got there early and took the heat, and now it’s nods and/crickets depending on the crowd.
“The president will call for mobilizing the National Guard. Some governors will refuse, and army units now overseas will be sent home to deal with the growing unrest. Mistakes will be made and there will be gunfire in the streets; people will die on both sides. The president will desperately call for martial law. ”
“Many Army, National Guard, and police will defect, or desert, or simply refuse orders.”
“What will happen after that is anybody’s guess.”
LINK:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/no_matter_who_wins_in_2020_there_will_be_blood.html