I’m against the ancestral method of competition: false promise, baiting in to moral hazard, pilpul, critique, and profiting from capture of hazards, and capitalizing those captures as systems of rents.
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 13:10:00 UTC
I’m against the ancestral method of competition: false promise, baiting in to moral hazard, pilpul, critique, and profiting from capture of hazards, and capitalizing those captures as systems of rents.
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 13:10:00 UTC
by Philip Clark
Curt how would propertianism handle
complex things in society like
1. Alcohol, Drugs
2. Pornography
3. Abortion
4. Death penalty
Other controversial stuff that have some negative side effects to society that’s legal to some degree in the US right now.
I know this is diving deep into the weeds and there’s way bigger problems to solve before hand.
This would be an interesting video for John Mark to do a video.
—Answer—
I’ve answered all of these before but lets condense them here:
1. ALCOHOL AND DRUGS
GIVEN
a) Family and Commons (conservatism/capitalization) take priority over individual satisfaction (hedonism/consumption) – this is the inverse of ‘individualism’ and returns us to ‘familialism’ – intergenerational production instead of temporal consumption.
b) Alcohol and drugs are no one’s business unless externalized into the commons.
c) Unfortunately they are frequently externalized into the commons. Therefore the question of alcohol and drugs are empirical (outputs) not blanket (inputs). And therefore a local community decision – not a universally decidable question.
But that does not mean that we cannot define a point of demarcation.
We can:
d) Technically speaking you are no longer human (rational) when not in control, unable to perform due diligence, exposing others to hazard, and therefore have no rights in the commons, because you cannot engage in reciprocity. Therefore you lose your sovereignty because you no longer can demonstrate it.
I really don’t know why you have the right to be drunk or stoned in public, and I know for certain you can’t claim the right to disconnect (heroin) or trip (hallucinate) in public. What you do on a boat, in the wilderness, or in your home, is up to you. Unfortunately this takes most of the joy out of recreational drugs. That said, if no one can tell, no one can tell.
e) it is very hard to i) claim recreational use is a bad, ii) claim therapeutic use is a bad, iii) claim self medication in modernity is a bad, UNLESS iv) instead of self medication we provide both conditions non-hostile to mindfulness and provide mindfulness training (Stoicism etc) to the same degree that devotion does (continuous repetition and enforcement), and insurance (medical care, charity) to one another in case we fail and self medication is the only coince. (IMO, suicide should be an option, since all must have the right of exit.)
f) The line of demarcation is crossed at (v) externalization of addiction. There can be no ‘right to addiction’. Empirically speaking, we should provide death sentences for addicts, or those engage in crime to finance addiction, or those who sell drugs to those who are addicts or engage in grim to finance addiction. (“The Duerte Rule”).
2. PORNOGRAPHY
There is no right to anything in public other than quietly walking down a public way or ‘necessary way’ (hedgerow) staring at your feet and keeping your mouths shut.
We are currently running an experiment in Pornography. This experiment appears to a) suppress sexual frustration due to easy masturbation, b) dramatically reduce male sex drive and competitiveness (producing docility), c) produce sexual dysfunction in males, c) reduce sex crime, d) but feed extreme deviants (pedophiles, etc) – since novelty is part of the excitement that generates sexual stimulation we must run to extremes.
There is no evidence that the human body (nudity) is a bad thing in public – probably just the opposite. There is evidence that infidelity may follow the degree of nudity in public (I can’t be sure of this). There is some evidence that limiting the range of pornography (which the industry does fairly well) might be of a benefit. There is some evidence that studio quality ‘romantic porn’ is not only not bad but instructive. There is plenty of evidence men are losing the skills (patience) taught to my generation during the 70’s.
Ergo, if it’s not in public, and meets propertarian criteria, it is a matter of choice. It it externalizes into the public then it’s a violation. This is an empirical statement, and nothing else is decidable. I would recommend a park-like public since online access in private is universally available.
3. ABORTION
Search my site for my works on abortion. Net is that it’s undecidable. And therefore a matter of local choice.
4. DEATH PENALTY
The experiment with eliminating the death penalty has been a failure – a catastrophic one, and in our constitution I have corrected this to some degree and given license to restore even lynching.
So the only difficult question here is drugs. The rest are pretty simple.
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 12:55:00 UTC
—“When the next fascist movement rises again we need to ensure that sophists are dealt with accordingly. Never again can we allow this to happen again because of these sophists and bullshitters The coming generation of europeans will either perish or reach the stars. Lets hope they reach the stars.”—Phill Knyspel
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 12:35:00 UTC
Could you produce a competition between a hereditary monarchy ruling the military and the judiciary and the militia, and a fascist government ruling the commons and economy? Not sure. I prefer a fascist monarchy under rule of law.
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 12:32:00 UTC
One you realize how much they are behind it all, you will become … extremely angry. It’s almost unimaginable that people can be that good at deceit that they can fool the vast majority of a civilization – until you realize they did it before with christianity and they almost did it with marxism, and now they’re doing it with genocide by postmodernism.
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 12:29:00 UTC
“TESTIMONIALISM ROCKS!!!”
—“Curt: The moment she said “…the thing in itself”, my mind directly answered “can u testify for that thing in itself of yours”.
And the answers surely would be no.
And if she tried to then she will be bringing, or applying a monopoly demand for consent of the rationalization she will be making, ie, deceit.
Testimonialism ROCKS.”— Deus Ex
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 12:18:00 UTC
https://propertarianism.com/2018/03/29/definitions-science-scientism-pseudoscience-pseudo-rationalism-and-literature/DEFINITIONS: SCIENCE, SCIENTISM, PSEUDOSCIENCE, PSEUDO-RATIONALISM, AND LITERATURE.
(worth repeating)
THE DEFINITIONS
i) SCIENCE: a warranty of due diligence against ignorance, error, bias, and deceit.
ii) SCIENTISM : overstating empiricism (correlation), without completing the applicable scope of due diligences, or attempting to apply tests of truth in matters of preference or good.
iii) PSEUDOSCIENCE: Testifying to the truth of statements without having performed due diligence against ignorance error, bias, and deceit.
iv) PSEUDO-RATIONALISM: Attempts to claim closure where closure does not exist in the logics without appeal to the next higher dimension (empiricism). In other words sophisms, no matter how skilled. Contradictions proposed rarely exist, and almost all questions of philosophy are non-existent bits of fraud due to the use of poor grammar and incomplete sentences. (For example, the liar’s paradox is not operationally possible.)
THE ARGUMENT
(1) The sciences consist of logical and physical means of falsification in each dimension of possible human action (categorically consistent, internally consistent(logical), externally correspondent(empirical), operationally possible(existential), rational choice(voluntary), reciprocal rational choice(moral), scope-completeness/limits-defined/surviving-parsimony.)
(2) the sciences can therefore tell us what is false, and what at present appears to be true (meaning the science allow us to testify to having performed due diligence against ignorance, error, bias, and deceit.)
(3) For some reason, we still conflate the logics (tests of constant relations between two or more states, in a set of dimensions), including mathematics (tests of constant positional relations given scale independence) and the deducibility (‘inference’) of relations given the inviolability of those constant relations. Very little of meaning can be said of logic other than it is extremely useful in the falsification of the logical – which is how we use it. Proofs appear to have very little value since given enough time nearly anything can be justified by verbal ‘proof’).
(4) Philosophy at present is limited to the exploration and determination of preference (personal), and good (collective). But philosophy has a tragic reputation for nearly universal falsehood outside of those choices. In fact, current philosophy consists largely of self help on one side and a catalog of human errors in intuition on the other.
(5) Literature consists of envisioning possible and impossible worlds, for the purpose of exploration, advocacy, and criticism.
(6) We tend to conflate literature and logic (philosophy), and conflate History (myth), law (norm), literature (parable), and pseudoscience into theology, just as we inflate literature and reason into philosophy.
(7) So while there is value in via positive imaginings (theology, philosophy, mythology) there exists only decidability (conflict resolution) via mathematics, science, history, and reciprocity (law).
Ergo, if we must disagree, we must resort only to decidability independent of good or preference. If we seek possibilities, we must resort to literature, myth, and philosophy.
Truth can only be produced via-negativa, and choice only by via positiva.
Sorry. That’s all there is to the scope of human knowledge.
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
Kiev, Ukraine
https://propertarianism.com/2018/03/29/definitions-science-scientism-pseudoscience-pseudo-rationalism-and-literature/
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 12:16:00 UTC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_TriversTHE INFLUENCE OF ROBERT TRIVERS
(via @[100024818064292:2048:Rosenborg Predmetsky] and @[11019687:2048:Brandon Hayes])
Trivers is among the most influential evolutionary theorists alive today.[12] Steven Pinker considers Trivers to be “one of the great thinkers in the history of Western thought”, who has:
—…inspired an astonishing amount of research and commentary in psychology and biology—the fields of sociobiology, evolutionary psychology, Darwinian social science, and behavioral ecology are in large part attempt to test and flesh out Trivers’ ideas.
It is no coincidence that E. O. Wilson’s Sociobiology and Richard Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene were published in 1975 and 1976 respectively, just a few years after Trivers’ seminal papers.
Both bestselling authors openly acknowledged that they were popularizing Trivers’ ideas and the research they spawned.
Likewise for the much-talked-about books on evolutionary psychology in the 1990s—The Adapted Mind, The Red Queen, Born to Rebel, The Origins of Virtue, The Moral Animal, and my own How the Mind Works.
Each of these books is based in large part on Trivers’ ideas and the explosion of research they inspired (involving dozens of animal species, mathematical and computer modeling, and human social and cognitive psychology.—
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Trivers
via @[100024818064292:2048:Rosenborg Predmetsky]
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 10:32:00 UTC
JUSTIFICATION OF SELF DECEPTION
By: Rosenborg Predmetsky (via Brandon Hayes)
Someone pointed out the other day that self deception can be advantageous from the standpoint of natural selection.
Robert trivers has great work on this.
When a feminist convinces herself that she is justified in acquiring a sugar daddy because patriarchy economically oppressed her, this is sexually antagonistic co-evolution.
When a black person justifies blm activism despite blacks being much more a problem for whites than the other way around, this is group evolutionary strategy whose purpose is reciprocal altruism to maximize inclusive fitness for his kin group; I.e. group evolutionary strategy
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 10:30:00 UTC
Maybe if I live long enough I can do a rewrite of fascism in propertarian prose because at that point it would be unstoppable.
Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 09:53:00 UTC