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  • “No one ever assumes they’ll be the one with a gunshot wound in the back of thei

    —“No one ever assumes they’ll be the one with a gunshot wound in the back of their head after their glorious revolution.”— ( “Wus” )

    That’s not true. I think some of us just wanna see how many we can take with us first.

    Gutless cowards on the other hand say bullshit like that so they can feign courage or wisdom while waiting until the men with balls to the dirty work before they step into the parade, say hoo-rah, and take some of the credit as if like-mindedness is some sorta contribution to the cause…. šŸ˜‰

    The only people whose opinions matter are those who fight.

    Everyone else is either enemy or enabler…..


    Source date (UTC): 2018-05-11 14:14:00 UTC

  • OUR ANCIENT ORIGINS – PART ONE – THE BEGINNING – THE STRONG AND THE WEAK – By Ka

    OUR ANCIENT ORIGINS – PART ONE – THE BEGINNING – THE STRONG AND THE WEAK – By Karen Armstrong, from The Great Transformation.

    (read this) (required reading) (cites below)

    The first people to attempt an Axial Age spirituality were pastoralists living on the steppes of southern Russia, who called themselves the Aryans. The Aryans were not a distinct ethnic group, so this was not a racial term but an assertion of pride and meant something like ā€œnobleā€ 0r ā€œhonorable.ā€ The Aryans were a loose—knit network of tribes who shared a common culture. Because they spoke a language that would form the basis of several Asiatic and European tongues, they are also called Indo-Europeans. They had lived on the Caucasian steppes since about 4500, but by the middle of the third millennium some tribes began to roam farther and farther afield, until they reached what is now Greece, Italy, Scandinavia, and Germany. At the same time, those Aryans who had remained behind on the steppes gradually drifted apart and became two separate peoples, speaking different forms of the original Indo-European. One used the Avestan dialect, the other an early form of Sanskrit. They were able to maintain contact, however, because at this stage their languages were still very similar, and until about 1500 they continued to live peacefully together, sharing the same cultural and religious traditions. It was a quiet, sedentary existence. The Aryans could not travel far, because the horse had not yet been domesticated, so their horizons were bounded by the steppes. They farmed their land, herded their sheep, goats, and pigs, and valued stability and continuity. They were not warlike people, since, apart from a few skirmishes With one another or with rival groups, they had no enemies and no ambition to conquer new territory. Their religion was simple and peaceful. Like other ancient peoples, the Aryans experienced an invisible force within themselves and in everything that they saw, heard, and touched. Storms, winds, trees, and rivers were not impersonal, mindless phenomena. The Aryans felt an affinity with them, and revered them as divine. Humans, deities, animals, plants, and the forces of nature were all manifestations of the same divine ā€œspirit,ā€ which the Avestans called mainyu and the Sanskrit-speakers manya. It animated, sustained, and bound them all together.

    Over time the Aryans developed a more formal pantheon. At a very early stage, they had worshiped a Sky God called “Dyaus Pitr, creator of the world” But like other High Gods, Dyaus was so remote that he was eventually replaced by more accessible gods, who were wholly identified with natural and cosmic forces. Varuna preserved the order of the universe; Mithra was the god of storm, thunder, and life-giving rain; Mazda, lord of justice and wisdom, was linked with the sun and stars; and Indra, a divine warrior, had fought a three—headed dragon called Vritra and brought order out of chaos. Fire, which was crucial to civilized society, was also a god, and the Aryans called him Agni. Agni was not simply the divine patron of fire; he was the fire that burned in every single hearth. Even the hallucinogenic plant that inspired the Aryan poets was a god, called Haoma in Avestan and Soma in Sanskrit: he was a divine priest who protected the people from famine and looked after their cattle.

    The Avestan Aryans called their gods daevas (ā€œthe shining onesā€) and amesha (ā€œthe immortalsā€). In Sanskrit these terms became devas and amrita. None of these divine beings, however, were what we usually call ā€œgodsā€ today. They were not Omnipotent and had no ultimate control over the cosmos. Like human beings and all the natural forces, they had to

    submit to the sacred order that held the universe together. Thanks to this order, the seasons succeeded one another in due course, the rain fell at the right times, and the crops grew each year in the appointed month. The Avestan Aryans called this order asha, while the Sanskrit—speakers called it rita. It made life possible, keeping everything in its proper place and defining what was true and correct.

    Human society also depended upon this sacred order. People had to make firm, binding agreements about grazing rights, the herding of cattle, marriage, and the exchange of goods. Translated into social terms, asha/rira meant loyalty, truth, and respect, the ideals embodied by Varuna, the guardian of order, and Mithra, his assistant. These gods supervised all covenant agreements that were sealed by a solemn oath. The Aryans took the spoken word very seriously. Like all other phenomena, speech was a god, a deva. Aryan religion was not very visual. As far as we know, the Aryans did not make effigies of their gods. Instead, they found that the act of listening brought them close to the sacred. Quite apart from its meaning, the very sound of a chant was holy; even a single syllable could encapsulate the divine. Similarly, a vow, once uttered, was eternally binding, and a lie was absolutely evil because it perverted the holy power inherent in the spoken word. The Aryans would never lose this passion for absolute

    truthfulness.

    Every day, the Aryans offered sacrifices to their gods to replenish the energies they expended in maintaining world order. Some of these rites were very simple. The sacrificer would throw a handful of grain, curds, or fuel into the fire to nourish Agni, or pound the stalks of soma, offer the

    pulp to the water goddesses, and make a sacred drink. The Aryans also sacrificed cattle. They did not grow enough crops for their needs, so killing was a tragic necessity, but the Aryans ate only meat that had been ritually and humanely slaughtered. When a beast was ceremonially given to the

    gods, its spirit was not extinguished but returned to Geush Urvan (ā€œSoul of the Bullā€), the archetypical domestic animal. The Aryans felt very close to their cattle. It was sinful to eat the flesh of a beast that had not been consecrated in this way, because profane slaughter destroyed it forever, and thus violated the sacred life that made all creatures kin. Again, the Aryans would never entirely lose this profound respect for the ā€œspiritā€ that they shared with others, and this would become a crucial principle of their Axial Age.

    To take the life of any being was a fearful act, not to be undertaken lightly, and the sacrificial ritual compelled the Aryans to confront this harsh law of existence. The sacrifice became and would remain the organizing symbol of their culture, by which they explained the world and their society. The Aryans believed that the universe itself had originated in

    a sacrificial offering. In the beginning, it was said, the gods, working in obedience to the divine order, had brought forth the world in seven stages. First they created the Sky, which was made of stone like a huge round shell; then the Earth, which rested like a flat dish upon the Water

    that had collected in the base of the shell. In the center of the Earth, the gods placed three living creatures: a Plant, a Bull, and a Man. Finally they produced Agni, the Fire. But at first everything was static and lifeless. It was not until the gods performed a triple sacrifice—crushing the Plant, and killing the Bull and the Man—that the world became animated. The

    sun began to move across the sky, seasonal change was established, and the three sacrificial victims brought forth their own kind. Flowers, crops, and trees sprouted from the pulped Plant; animals sprang from the corpse of the Bull; and the carcass of the first Man gave birth to the human race. The

    Aryans would always see sacrifice as creative. By reflecting on this ritual, they realized that their lives depended upon the death of other creatures.

    The three archetypal creatures had laid down their lives so that others might live. There could be no progress, materially or spiritually, without self-sacrifice. This too would become one of the principles of the Axial Age.

    The Aryans had no elaborate shrines and temples. Sacrifice was offered in the open air on a small, level piece of land, marked off from the rest of the settlement by a furrow. The seven original creations were all symbolically represented in this arena: Earth in the soil,Water in the vessels, Fire in

    the hearth; the stone Sky was present in the flint knife, the Plant in the crushed soma stalks, the Bull in the victim, and the first Man in the priest. And the gods, it was thought, were also present. The “hotr” priest, expert in the liturgical chant, would sing a hymn to summon devas to the feast. When they had entered the sacred arena, the gods sat down on the freshly mown grass strewn around the altar to listen to these hymns of praise. Since the sound of these inspired syllables was itself a god, as the song filled the air and entered their consciousness, the congregation felt surrounded by and infused with divinity. Finally the primordial sacrifice was

    repeated. The cattle were slain, the soma pressed, and the priest laid the choicest portions of the victims onto the fire, so that Agni could convey them to the land of the gods. The ceremony ended with a holy communion, as priest and participants shared a festal meal with the deities, eating

    the consecrated meat and drinking the intoxicating soma, which seemed to lift them to another dimension of being.

    The sacrifice brought practical benefits too. It was commissioned by a member of the community, who hoped that those devas who had responded to his invitation and attended the sacrifice would help him in the future. Like any act of hospitality, the ritual placed an obligation on the divinities to respond in kind, and the hotr often reminded them to protect the patron’s family, crops, and herd. The sacrifice also enhanced the patron’s standing in the community. Like the gods, his human guests were now in his debt, and by providing the cattle for the feast and giving the officiating priests a handsome gift, he had demonstrated that he was a man of substance. The benefits of religion were purely material and this—worldly. People wanted the gods to provide them with cattle, wealth, and security. At first the Aryans had entertained no hope of an afterlife, but by the end of the second millennium, some were beginning to believe that

    wealthy people who had commissioned a lot of sacrifices would be able to join the gods in paradise after their death.

    This slow, uneventful life came to an end when the Aryans discovered modern technology. In about 1500, they had begun to trade with the more advanced societies south of the Caucasus in Mesopotamia and Armenia. They learned about bronze weaponry from the Armenians and also encountered new methods of transport: first they acquired wooden

    carts pulled by oxen, and then the war chariot. Once they had learned how to tame the wild horses of the steppes and harness them to their chariots, they experienced the joys of mobility. Life would never be the same again. The Aryans had become warriors. They could now travel long distances at high speed. With their superior weapons, they could conduct

    lightning raids on neighboring settlements and steal cattle and crops. This was far more thrilling and lucrative than stock breeding. Some of the younger men served as mercenaries in the armies of the southern kingdoms, and became expert in chariot warfare.When they returned to the steppes, they put their new skills to use and started to rustle their neigh-

    bors’ cattle. They killed, plundered, and pillaged, terrorizing the more conservative Aryans, who were bewildered, frightened, and entirely disoriented, feeling that their lives had been turned upside down.

    Violence escalated on the steppes as never before. Even the more traditional tribes, who simply wanted to be left alone, had to learn the new military techniques in order to defend themselves. A heroic age had begun. Might was right; Chieftains sought gain and glory; and bards celebrated aggression, reckless courage, and military prowess. The old Aryan religion had preached reciprocity, self—sacrifice, and kindness to animals. This was no longer appealing to the cattle rustlers, whose hero was the dynamic Indra, the dragon slayer, who rode in a chariot upon the clouds of heaven.10 Indra was now the divine model to whom the raiders aspired.

    ā€œHeroes with noble horses, fain for battle, selected warriors call on me in combat,ā€ he cried. ā€œI, bountiful Indra, excite the conflict, I stir the dust, Lord of surpassing vigour!ā€” When they fought, killed, and robbed, the Aryan cowboys felt themselves one with Indra and the aggressive devas who had established the world order by force of arms.

    But the more traditional, Avestan-speaking Aryans were appalled by Indra’s naked aggression, and began to have doubts about the daevas. Were they all violent and immoral? Events on earth always reflected cosmic events in heaven, so, they reasoned, these terrifying raids must have a divine prototype. The cattle rustlers, who fought under the banner of

    Indra, must be his earthly counterparts. But who were the daevas attacking in heaven? The most important gods—such as Varuna, Mazda, and Mithra, the guardians of order—were given the honorific title ā€œLordā€ (ahura). Perhaps the peaceful ahuras, who stood for justice, truth, and respect for life and property, were themselves under attack by Indra and the more aggressive daevas? This, at any rate, was the View of a visionary priest, who in about 1200 claimed that Ahura Mazda had commissioned him to restore order to the steppes.12 His name was Zoroaster.

    When he received his divine vocation, the new prophet was about thirty years old and strongly rooted in the Aryan faith. He had probably studied for the priesthood since he was seven years old, and was so steeped in tradition that he could improvise sacred chants to the gods during the sacrifice. But Zoroaster was deeply disturbed by the cattle raids, and after

    completing his education, he had spent some time in consultation with other priests, and had meditated on the rituals to find a solution to the problem. One morning, while he was celebrating the spring festival, Zoroaster had risen at dawn and walked down to the river to collect water for the daily sacrifice. Wading in, he immersed himself in the pure element, and when he emerged, saw a shining being standing on the riverbank, who told Zoroaster that his name was Vohu Manah (ā€œGood Purposeā€). Once he had been assured of Zoroaster’s own good intentions, he led him into the presence of the greatest of the ahuras: Mazda, lord of wisdom and justice, who was surrounded by his retinue of seven radiant

    gods. He told Zoroaster to mobilize his people in a holy war against terror and violence. ā€˜3 The story is bright with the promise of a new beginning. A fresh era had dawned: everybody had to make a decision, gods and humans alike.Were they on the side of order or evil?

    Zoroaster’s vision convinced him that Lord Mazda was not simply one of the great ahuras, but that he was the Supreme God. For Zoroaster and his followers, Mazda was no longer immanent in the natural world, but had become transcendent, different in kind from any other divinity.I4 This was not quite monotheism, the belief in a single, unique deity. The seven

    luminous beings in Mazda’s retinue—the Holy Immortals—were also divine: each expressed one of Mazda’s attributes and was linked, in the traditional way, with one of the seven original creations. There was, however, a monotheistic tendency in Zoroaster’s vision. Lord Mazda had created

    the Holy Immortals; they were ā€œof one mind, one voice, one actā€ with him.ā€œ Mazda was not the only deity, but he was the first to exist. Zoroaster had probably reached this position by meditating on the creation story, which claimed that in the beginning there had been one plant, one animal, and one human being. It was only logical to assume that originally

    there had been one god.16

    But Zoroaster was not interested in theological speculation for its own sake. He was wholly preoccupied by the violence that had destroyed the peaceful world of the Steppes, and was desperately seeking for a way to bring it to an end. The Gathas, the seventeen inspired hymns attributed to Zoroaster, are pervaded by a distraught vulnerability, impotence, and fear. ā€œI know why I am powerless, Mazda,ā€ cried the prophet, ā€œI possess few cattle and few men.ā€ His community was terrorized by raiders ā€œyoked with evil acts to destroy life.ā€ Cruel warriors, fighting under the orders of the evil Indra, had swept down on the peace—loving, law—abiding communities. They had vandalized and looted one settlement after another, killed the villagers, and carried off their bulls and cows.17 The raiders believed that they were heroes, fighting alongside Indra, but the Gathas show us how their victims saw the heroic age. Even the cow complained to Lord Mazda:ā€œFor whom did you shape me? Who fashioned me? Fury and raid-

    ing, cruelty and might hold me captive.ā€When Lord Mazda replied that Zoroaster, the only one of the Aryans who listened to his teachings, would be her protector, the cow was not impressed.What use was Zoroaster? She wanted a more effective helper. The Gathas cried aloud for justice.Where

    were the Holy Immortals, the guardians of asha? When would Lord Mazda bring relief ?ā€˜8

    The suffering and helplessness of his people had shocked Zoroaster into a torn, conflicted vision. The world seemed polarized, split into two irreconcilable camps. Because Indra and the cattle raiders had nothing in common with Lord Mazda, they must have given their allegiance to a different ahura. If there was a single divine source for everything that was benign and good, Zoroaster concluded that there must also be a Wicked deity who had inspired the cruelty of the raiders. This Hostile Spirit (Angra Mainyu), he believed, was equal in power to Lord Mazda, but was his opposite. In the beginning, there had been ā€œtwo primal Spirits, twins destined to be in conflictā€ with each other. Each had made a choice. The Hostile Spirit had thrown in his lot with druj, the lie, and was the epitome of evil. He was the eternal enemy of asha, of everything that was right and true. But Lord Mazda had opted for goodness and had created the Holy Immortals and human beings as his allies. Now every single man, woman, and child had to make the same choice between asha and almj.19

    For generations, the Aryans had worshiped Indra and the other daevas, but now Zoroaster concluded that the daevas must have decided to fight alongside the Hostile Spirit.20 The cattle raiders were their earthly counterparts. The unprecedented violence in the steppes had caused Zoroaster

    to divide the ancient Aryan pantheon into two warring groups. Good men and women must no longer offer sacrifice to Indra and the daevas; they must not invite them into the sacred precinct. Instead, they must commit themselves entirely to Lord Mazda, his Holy Immortals, and the other ahuras, who alone could bring peace, justice, and security. The daevas and the cattle raiders, their evil henchmen, must all be defeated and destroyed.

    The whole of life had now become a battlefield in which everybody had a role. Even women and servants could make a valuable contribution. The old purity laws, which had regulated the conduct of the ritual, were now given a new significance. Lord Mazda had created a completely clean and perfect world for his followers, but the Hostile Spirit had invaded the earth and filled it with sin, violence, falsehood, dust, dirt, disease, death, and decay. Good men and women must, therefore, keep their immediate environment free from dirt and pollution. By separating the pure from the impure, good from evil, they would liberate the world for Lord Mazda. They must pray five times a day. Winter was the season when the daevas were in the ascendant, so during this time all virtuous people must

    counter their influence by meditating on the menace of druj. They must rise up during the night, when wicked spirits prowled the earth, and throw incense into the fire to strengthen Agni in the war against evil.23

    But no battle could last forever. In the old, peaceful world, life had seemed cyclical: the seasons had followed one another, day succeeded night, and harvest followed the planting. But Zoroaster could no longer believe in these natural rhythms. The world was rushing forward toward a cataclysm. He and his followers were living in the ā€œbounded timeā€ of raging cosmic conflict, but soon they would witness the final triumph of

    good and the annihilation of the forces of darkness. After a terrible battle, Lord Mazda and the Immortals would descend to the world of men and women and offer sacrifice. There would be a great judgment. The wicked would be wiped off the face of the earth, and a blazing river would flow into hell and incinerate the Hostile Spirit. Then the cosmos would be

    restored to its original perfection. Mountains and valleys would be leveled into a great plain, where gods and humans could live side by side, worshiping Lord Mazda forever. There would be no more death. Human beings would be like deities, free from sickness, old age, and mortality.24

    We are now familiar with this kind of apocalyptic vision, but before Zoroaster there had been nothing like it in the ancient world. It sprang from his outrage at the suffering of his people and his yearning for justice. He wanted the wicked to be punished for the pain they had inflicted on good, innocent people. But as time passed, he began to realize that he

    would not be alive to see the Last Days. Another would come after him, a superhuman being, ā€œwho is better than a good man.ā€”5 The Gathas call him the Saoshyant (ā€œOne Who Will Bring Benefitā€). He, not Zoroaster, would lead Lord Mazda’s troops into the final battle.

    When—centuries later—the Axial Age began, philosophers, prophets, and mystics all tried to counter the cruelty and aggression of their time by promoting a spirituality based on nonviolence. But Zoroaster’s traumatized vision, with its imagery of burning, terror, and extermination, was vengeful. His career reminds us that political turbulence, atrocity, and suffering do not infallibly produce an Axial-style faith, but can inspire a militant piety that polarizes complex reality into oversimplified categories of good and evil. Zoroaster’s vision was deeply agonistic.We shall see that the agon (ā€œcontestā€) was a common feature of ancient religion. In making a cosmic agon between good and evil central to his message, Zoroaster belonged to the old spiritual world. He had projected the violence of his time onto the divine and made it absolute.

    But in his passionately ethical vision, Zoroaster did look forward to the Axial Age. He tried to introduce some morality into the new warrior ethos. True heroes did not terrorize their fellow creatures but tried to counter aggression. The holy warrior was dedicated to peace; those who opted to fight for Lord Mazda were patient, disciplined, courageous, and swift to defend all good creatures from the assaults of the wicked.26 Ashavans, the champions of order (asha), must imitate the Holy Immortals in their care for the environment. ā€œGood Purpose,ā€ for instance, who had appeared to Zoroaster on the riverbank, was the guardian of the cow, and ashavans must follow his example, not that of the raiders, who drove the cattle from their pastures, harnessed them to carts, killed, and ate them without the proper ritual.ā€ ā€œGood Dominion,ā€ the personification of divine justice, was the protector of the stone Sky, so ashavans must use their stone weapons only to defend the poor and the weak.’8 When Zoroastrians protected vulnerable people, looked after their cattle tenderly, and purified their natural environment, they became one with the Immortals and joined their struggle against the Hostile Spirit.

    Even though his vision was grounded in ancient Aryan tradition, Zoroaster’s message inspired great hostility. People found it too demanding; some were shocked by his preaching to women and peasants, and by his belief that everybody—not just the elite—could reach paradise. Many would have been troubled by his rejection of the daevas: Might not Indra take revenge?29 After years of preaching to his own tribe, Zoroaster gained only one convert, so he left his village and found a patron in Vishtaspa, the chief of another tribe, who established the Zoroastrian faith in his territory. Zoroaster lived in Vishtaspa’s court for many years, fighting a heroic

    battle against evil to the bitter, violent end. According to one tradition he was killed by rival priests who were enraged by his rejection of the old religion.We know nothing about the history of Zoroastrianism after his death. By the end of the second millennium the Avestan Aryans had migrated south and settled in eastern Iran, where Zoroastrianism became the national faith. It has remained a predominantly Iranian religion.

    (Karen Armstrong, The Great Transformation (Axial Age), Chapter 1.)

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    History, trans. Michael Bullock

    (London, 1953).pp. 1-70.

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    Mysteries:’I’he Encounter Between

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    Source date (UTC): 2018-05-11 13:25:00 UTC

  • There is no god, but Men – Men of Truth , Agency, Sovereignty, Reciprocity, and

    There is no god, but Men – Men of Truth , Agency, Sovereignty, Reciprocity, and Maneuver. We are the gods. That is why the liars, the weak, the ignorant, the incompetent and the unsovereign had to invent false gods – to oppose us. With the unification of horse, wheel, bronze, maneuver, oath, and sovereignty, we invented the means by which to bend man, beast, and nature to our will or break them all to pieces. The religions were invented to create false gods for the weak, to substitute for the Aristocracy of the real. Our heroes, demigods, and gods teach, assist, or interfere, but never can they defeat us. In stead, we seek to unseat and replace them. For weak gods have no stay against the minds of men.


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  • ( i have the feeling I’m not going to get much useful done this morning. the “zo

    ( i have the feeling I’m not going to get much useful done this morning. the “zone” is out there somewhere beyond my reach. so maybe it’s errands in the AM and work in the PM today. ’cause nobody’s home upstairs….. I have one serious topic in mind that I want to think thru. And that’ll take me a few hours…. )


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  • You know, I leave FB/Twitter/a whole collection of email accounts, and most of t

    You know, I leave FB/Twitter/a whole collection of email accounts, and most of the other social media platforms open at all times while I work. And I pretty much work all day. So sometimes I just have to seize certain opportunities for the pure joy of trash talking.

    One of the reasons I love salesmen and sales calls – especially in technology – is that salesmen, like sports men, love to talk sh–t. I absolutely love sh-t talking. It’s very creative and comedic male bonding. It’s wonderful.

    So you know, I”m gonna counter-signal by sh–t talking now and then just for the sheer joy of it. And yes, I will troll morons every now and then for the same reason as everyone else does: recreational value. It’s cathartic.

    I mean, you just try to have rational conversations with mouth-breathers, and it takes a lot of patience. And sometimes you just gotta get that release… lol


    Source date (UTC): 2018-05-11 08:06:00 UTC

  • Claire (re: Rod Schmidt), your view of history is not defined as consisting of n

    Claire (re: Rod Schmidt), your view of history is not defined as consisting of necessary and logical or rational(choices) wherein you describe causes as choices in rational self interest, but a construction that constitutes nothing more than a justification of the premise (in other words, circularity).

    The evolution from consanguineous bands all the way to the absolute nuclear family, to the present single-person family, reflected the demands of the use of property in the division of knowledge and labor. Marriage was and remains a property claim on one another in order that the members of the corporation (marriage) will pool resources to produce returns unavailable to individuals outside of marriage on one hand, and on the other hand, marriage prevents the externalization of moral hazard upon society by the production of generations (children) that the community rather than the participants must supply. It was the extraordinary returns on marriage that produced superior quality of life – especially in late life, that preserved the institution. (The impolitic is that before marriage women were the ‘property’ of the males of the tribe (brothers, fathers, uncles, cousins), and treated as such. And still are by other great apes.) And in truth, the current conflict is in no small part over the group ownership of reproduction by males – an ownership that is necessary for the continuation of the men’s genes.

    It was this balance of forces between internal interest, and external defense, that gave rise to marriage. Once marriage was long institutionalize, the problem of excess males remained, and normative governments (cults) generally but not always, imposed monogamy (outlawed polygamy) in order to absorb those males (and limit the harm done to families by competition between multiple wives (slaves).

    The industrial revolution’s rapid decrease of costs of everything, the invention of household industrial machinery (appliances), the invention of birth control, the entry of women into the work force, the transformation of education to day-dare, the no fault divorce, the use of redistribution via child support, alimony, and retirement redistributions, have all served to produce greater taxes and greater redistributions at the expense of the returns on marriage.

    Meanwhile the long term returns on marriage are increasingly lost and this has led to late life loneliness, depression for both genders, and rapid increases in particular of male suicide and female anti-depressant use – as well as the return of elder poverty.

    People in the past were drawn to religion when they were, partly out of entertainment value, partly out of educational value, partly out of ‘belonging’ value, partly out of signaling value, and partly defensively such that they would not be seen as a risk or outcast by the superstitious and ignorant. But those incentives empirically do not exist any longer. We find entertainment, education, belonging, signaling, in other forums, and we are so relatively wealthy that being outcast is immaterial. Our primary problem is economic mobility that prevents friendship and family formation as the cheapest form of entertainment. And we lose the mindfulness that comes from such constant socialization using others as the cheapest form of entertainment.

    So the problem is that you (Claire) start with a conclusion and make excuses for somehow enforcing by fiat that which is currently against human self interest – at all the levels that are possible for people to perceive. Yet you explain no possible method for doing so – for forcing them to ‘believe’. Worse, you mandate that they believe something is good despite the contrary evidence of their current choices and behavior. And worse you are apparently incognizant of the initial and ongoing costs of preserving that set of falsehoods and counter-incentives, – without realizing you’ve just adopted the model of the communists: forcible attempts to enforce counter-incentives, rather than the western model of constructing institutions that assist us in following incentives.

    So while you undoubtably think you have some particular insight, you are simply doubling-down, and re-doubling down, on the only solution you have the intuition, ability, and understanding to comprehend, rather than continuing the search for a set of forces that will produce the incentives to restore the intergenerational family corporation – largely by ceasing our incentives to avoid it. In simple terms you’re proposing the praxeologically and economically impossible – political science equivalent of cold fusion.

    The fact that you can believe your imagined world is possible is actually somewhat difficult to understand. And it’s a rather exceptional demonstration of dunning Kruger effects and lack of analysis, self reflection, and understanding of the human animal. If you are deeply religious we then can understand how you have been trained to think in such impossibilities and undesirabilities. But only the victims of Dunning Kruger ignorance and overconfidence, and those of limited intellectual ability and desperate need for confidence in decision making given their constant failure to make decisions that produce returns have the ability and incentive to advocate or follow such dictums.

    So, like I said, do you really want to have such discussions with those of us who have had responsibility for the organization of, success of, and competitive dominance of, large groups of high performing highly talented people of great ability, when your thought process and the ideas you advocate are accessible to the people at the other end of the spectrum?

    This is why I asked you if you really wanted to have such a discussion with the category of man that you wish to – because no such man would do anything other than dismiss such ideas, because he could not attain any success or power in the modern world if he thought in such a fashion. You do find, and we do all find, articulate schizotypicals, or the occasional borderline lunatic that manages to accumulate wealth despite is deficiencies for no other reason than unrelated industriousness. But you know, people who are successful largely are so because they have fewer defects of mind, emotion, and character than others combined with a high degree of industriousness.

    Because in my experience people with such strange malinvestments cannot tolerate the falsification of their ideals because they are forced to start from zero and begin all over again. And so what they do is spew venom at their interlocutors. Whereas an intellectually honest person simply is thankful for the correction and re-education.


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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/32235494_10156346903742264_303788920951275520_o_10156346903727264.jpg George Perceval OswaldThere are a lot of verbose, inane, pointless posts floating around out on the internet, but when curt posts I readMay 10, 2018 8:12pmSG SimmonsAt least he didnt say “property is a spook: fite me”May 10, 2018 8:36pmJoseph ValeriusNo memesMay 10, 2018 9:02pmBob RossJesus, Curt

    ā€œYou will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barksā€

    Why are you even replying to a low effort comment?May 10, 2018 9:19pmCurt DoolittlejoyMay 10, 2018 9:20pmSteven KnappTLDRMay 10, 2018 9:29pmBob RossHahaha I’ll give you this oneMay 10, 2018 9:30pmTim SpillaneCurt rallying and shaming? Is it opposites day?!May 10, 2018 9:31pmTim SpillaneMight as well use every tactic available to us;)May 10, 2018 10:34pmGƶran DahlHe looks very inbredMay 11, 2018 4:00amCurt Doolittle(I reserve the right to counter-signal. lol)May 11, 2018 6:21am


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