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  • High IQ disaporics are diasporic because they could not develop institutions by

    High IQ disaporics are diasporic because they could not develop institutions by which to hold land (and made genocide against their southern neighbors who produced iron), and had to specialize in very different skills, as did ancestor females who were portable between male groups


    Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 20:57:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975476381479047172

    Reply addressees: @hbdchick @TOOEdit

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975475627376693248


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    @hbdchick @TOOEdit The low IQ Gypsies specialize in mobility, low level parasitism and predation, and punishing members for honest labor. Agrarians had to develop norms, traditions, traits that allowed them to hold territory. Pastoralists never produced commons, and retained their clannishness.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @hbdchick @TOOEdit The low IQ Gypsies specialize in mobility, low level parasitism and predation, and punishing members for honest labor. Agrarians had to develop norms, traditions, traits that allowed them to hold territory. Pastoralists never produced commons, and retained their clannishness.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975475627376693248

  • The low IQ Gypsies specialize in mobility, low level parasitism and predation, a

    The low IQ Gypsies specialize in mobility, low level parasitism and predation, and punishing members for honest labor. Agrarians had to develop norms, traditions, traits that allowed them to hold territory. Pastoralists never produced commons, and retained their clannishness.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 20:54:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975475627376693248

    Reply addressees: @hbdchick @TOOEdit

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975475072461832198


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    @hbdchick @TOOEdit There are only three possible means of human coercion: violence, remuneration(payment), and undermining (gossip). ie: Established males, ascendent males, and females. We are very artful in combining them. But still specialize.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975475072461832198


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    @curtdoolittle

    @hbdchick @TOOEdit There are only three possible means of human coercion: violence, remuneration(payment), and undermining (gossip). ie: Established males, ascendent males, and females. We are very artful in combining them. But still specialize.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975475072461832198

  • This is a justification. All groups share developmental, demographic,and geograp

    This is a justification. All groups share developmental, demographic,and geographic advantages, institutionalize and exploit them. CONSPIRACY OF COMMON INTEREST != CONSPIRACY OF INTENT but the OUTCOME is the SAME.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 20:49:01 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975474175367401473

    Reply addressees: @hbdchick @TOOEdit

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/974642027349635072


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    @hbdchick

    my guess/prediction/bet: alt-right types who accept @TOOEdit’s theory about jews having a group evolutionary strategy tend to come from pops with particularistic (“clannish”) moral systems. #CognitiveBiases #EyeOfBeholder #HumanAllTooHuman

    (for god’s sake, don’t @ me!)

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/974642027349635072

  • As you’ve pointed out, the agrarian meat grinder on both extreme east and extrem

    As you’ve pointed out, the agrarian meat grinder on both extreme east and extreme west seems to have done its job in domesticating (cutting testosterone) while continental axis clans couldn’t isolate sufficiently. It’s also why all the ‘bad’ cyclically issued from steppe/desert.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 20:45:29 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975473286162284544

    Reply addressees: @hbdchick @TOOEdit

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040


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    Unknown author

    @hbdchick @TOOEdit (a) It’s actually High-Trust/Male/Agrarian vs Low-Trust/Female/Pastoral.
    (b) Not sure genetic vs cultural, but as you’ve advocated it appears much more genetic.
    (c) I’m pretty sure that major group differences are pedomorphism/neoteny + size of underclass + gender endocrine bias

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040


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    @curtdoolittle

    @hbdchick @TOOEdit (a) It’s actually High-Trust/Male/Agrarian vs Low-Trust/Female/Pastoral.
    (b) Not sure genetic vs cultural, but as you’ve advocated it appears much more genetic.
    (c) I’m pretty sure that major group differences are pedomorphism/neoteny + size of underclass + gender endocrine bias

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040

  • “Hey Eric could you possibly clarify for me your position on ‘racism’? I’m tryin

    –“Hey Eric could you possibly clarify for me your position on ‘racism’? I’m trying to cohesively understand a few different bits and pieces of yours that i’ve read;”—

    OK. Let’s try.

    —“”Racism’ is naive” – If you mean forming an individual judgement of a person not by their individual characteristics, but simply by their race, then sure… I get that.”—-

    Yes. But then again, it’s EXPENSIVE to do that, and our prejudices are statistically accurate. So the problem is ignoring signals of reciprocity and assuming the worst, not blanket investment in every individual. Humans are books that are judgeable by the condition of our covers, not the shape.

    —“And you have also said that the proper way to understand the difference between the races is the size of the underclasses, that the aristocracy of each race is generally fairly ‘equal’ and that each race has the same ability to transcend (improve it’s average IQ?) through eugenic practices… ok, 100% understood.”—

    Yes, because my job is answering the difficult political questions of the era. That said, there are definitely fairly substantial differences in verbal ability, but not comprehension. I think I know why that is but science will have to discover whether I”m right or not.

    —“However you also seem to advocate (correct me if i’m wrong) that a polity should be based around kin, where the aristocracy ‘domesticates’ the lower classes, in a vertical structure, based on race. So you seem to be anti cosmopolitan here.”—-

    Well, this is because (a) people demonstrate kin selection and are happy to redistribute to non-competitors (kin). (b) Because an homogenous redistributive polity under rule of law by reciprocity has the greatest chance of producing a competitive intergenerational standard of living, and the least incentives for the bad things in politics. In other words, I am advocating a via-negativa of eliminating all obstacles to optimum cooperation. And because (c) exporting your kin’s cost on others makes people angry (except those that oppose the status quo and want non-kin allies to undermine it.)

    —“So, how does ‘anti-multiculturalism’, or anti ethic mixing… resolve with racism being naive? And what is the value of focusing on kin as a group selector?”—

    I am not sure I understand the question. Political race realism is just science. People except at the margins select their own, and even among close friends we usually select with in six degrees or so. So we get nordic countries and japan on one hand and brazil and india on the other.

    Now, Interpersonal racism in the sense that you blanket dismiss people because of race is just unscientific and if consequential I feel it’s questionably moral. I tend to be pretty race blind in my friends, but my close friends, and my sexual relations are all absurdly close genetically.

    If I have friends from other races that I care deeply for (and I do), then that is very different from saying that i would want them to marry into my kin group, or my kin group marry into theirs, or even that we live in each other’s lands.

    The reality is that our upper classes are fine because they do not need kin groups and kin norms. But the lower the classes the more so the need, so that cost is immoral to impose on another people.

    So the material issue is transfer of other than a small number of elites who have no kin group affiliations in one another’s countries that may cause competition with the host people, and therefore limit their opportunity to preserve rule of law, markets in everything, and heavy redistribution (kin selection). Commons are as disproportionately productive as is cooperation between individuals and groups. It’s ridiculous. So kin=commons=wealth.

    –“And also, I understand that different groups simply evolved different average characteristics, but should we have a preference for particular groups based on the average prevalence of characteristics or temperaments that we value… is this not a form or ‘racism’, or at least getting very close?”—

    Well there are not ‘shoulds’ in preferences. There are goods in politics, and there are necessities in group competitive strategy. So I dn’t know how to answer that question.

    You should prefer kin groups because the result produces optimum common goods the same way you should prefer moderate taxes because they produce high returns, the same way you should prefer the high cost of marriage because of those returns.

    But you know, time horizons are a family and clan objective, and the purpose of individualism was to destroy that time horizon.

    The underclasses have had a war against the better classes for millennia. This is just the most current attempt to destroy aristocratic families. This time they’re trying to end the whole race.

    Thanks brother 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 20:45:00 UTC

  • Could You Possibly Clarify Your Position on ‘Racism’?

    –“Hey Curt could you possibly clarify for me your position on ‘racism’? I’m trying to cohesively understand a few different bits and pieces of yours that i’ve read;”—

    OK. Let’s try.

    —“”Racism’ is naive” – If you mean forming an individual judgement of a person not by their individual characteristics, but simply by their race, then sure… I get that.”—-

    Yes. But then again, it’s EXPENSIVE to do that, and our prejudices are statistically accurate. So the problem is ignoring signals of reciprocity and assuming the worst, not blanket investment in every individual. Humans are books that are judgeable by the condition of our covers, not the shape.

    —“And you have also said that the proper way to understand the difference between the races is the size of the underclasses, that the aristocracy of each race is generally fairly ‘equal’ and that each race has the same ability to transcend (improve it’s average IQ?) through eugenic practices… ok, 100% understood.”—

    Yes, because my job is answering the difficult political questions of the era. That said, there are definitely fairly substantial differences in verbal ability, but not comprehension. I think I know why that is but science will have to discover whether I”m right or not.

    —“However you also seem to advocate (correct me if i’m wrong) that a polity should be based around kin, where the aristocracy ‘domesticates’ the lower classes, in a vertical structure, based on race. So you seem to be anti cosmopolitan here.”—-

    Well, this is because (a) people demonstrate kin selection and are happy to redistribute to non-competitors (kin). (b) Because an homogenous redistributive polity under rule of law by reciprocity has the greatest chance of producing a competitive intergenerational standard of living, and the least incentives for the bad things in politics. In other words, I am advocating a via-negativa of eliminating all obstacles to optimum cooperation. And because (c) exporting your kin’s cost on others makes people angry (except those that oppose the status quo and want non-kin allies to undermine it.)

    —“So, how does ‘anti-multiculturalism’, or anti ethic mixing… resolve with racism being naive? And what is the value of focusing on kin as a group selector?”—

    I am not sure I understand the question. Political race realism is just science. People except at the margins select their own, and even among close friends we usually select with in six degrees or so. So we get nordic countries and japan on one hand and brazil and india on the other. Now, Interpersonal racism in the sense that you blanket dismiss people because of race is just unscientific and if consequential I feel it’s questionably moral. I tend to be pretty race blind in my friends, but my close friends, and my sexual relations are all absurdly close genetically. If I have friends from other races that I care deeply for (and I do), then that is very different from saying that i would want them to marry into my kin group, or my kin group marry into theirs, or even that we live in each other’s lands. The reality is that our upper classes are fine because they do not need kin groups and kin norms. But the lower the classes the more so the need, so that cost is immoral to impose on another people. So the material issue is transfer of other than a small number of elites who have no kin group affiliations in one another’s countries that may cause competition with the host people, and therefore limit their opportunity to preserve rule of law, markets in everything, and heavy redistribution (kin selection). Commons are as disproportionately productive as is cooperation between individuals and groups. It’s ridiculous. So kin=commons=wealth.

    –“And also, I understand that different groups simply evolved different average characteristics, but should we have a preference for particular groups based on the average prevalence of characteristics or temperaments that we value… is this not a form or ‘racism’, or at least getting very close?”—

    Well there are not ‘shoulds’ in preferences. There are goods in politics, and there are necessities in group competitive strategy. So I don’t know how to answer that question. You should prefer kin groups because the result produces optimum common goods the same way you should prefer moderate taxes because they produce high returns, the same way you should prefer the high cost of marriage because of those returns. But you know, time horizons are a family and clan objective, and the purpose of individualism was to destroy that time horizon. The underclasses have had a war against the better classes for millennia. This is just the most current attempt to destroy aristocratic families. This time they’re trying to end the whole race. Thanks brother 😉

  • Could You Possibly Clarify Your Position on ‘Racism’?

    –“Hey Curt could you possibly clarify for me your position on ‘racism’? I’m trying to cohesively understand a few different bits and pieces of yours that i’ve read;”—

    OK. Let’s try.

    —“”Racism’ is naive” – If you mean forming an individual judgement of a person not by their individual characteristics, but simply by their race, then sure… I get that.”—-

    Yes. But then again, it’s EXPENSIVE to do that, and our prejudices are statistically accurate. So the problem is ignoring signals of reciprocity and assuming the worst, not blanket investment in every individual. Humans are books that are judgeable by the condition of our covers, not the shape.

    —“And you have also said that the proper way to understand the difference between the races is the size of the underclasses, that the aristocracy of each race is generally fairly ‘equal’ and that each race has the same ability to transcend (improve it’s average IQ?) through eugenic practices… ok, 100% understood.”—

    Yes, because my job is answering the difficult political questions of the era. That said, there are definitely fairly substantial differences in verbal ability, but not comprehension. I think I know why that is but science will have to discover whether I”m right or not.

    —“However you also seem to advocate (correct me if i’m wrong) that a polity should be based around kin, where the aristocracy ‘domesticates’ the lower classes, in a vertical structure, based on race. So you seem to be anti cosmopolitan here.”—-

    Well, this is because (a) people demonstrate kin selection and are happy to redistribute to non-competitors (kin). (b) Because an homogenous redistributive polity under rule of law by reciprocity has the greatest chance of producing a competitive intergenerational standard of living, and the least incentives for the bad things in politics. In other words, I am advocating a via-negativa of eliminating all obstacles to optimum cooperation. And because (c) exporting your kin’s cost on others makes people angry (except those that oppose the status quo and want non-kin allies to undermine it.)

    —“So, how does ‘anti-multiculturalism’, or anti ethic mixing… resolve with racism being naive? And what is the value of focusing on kin as a group selector?”—

    I am not sure I understand the question. Political race realism is just science. People except at the margins select their own, and even among close friends we usually select with in six degrees or so. So we get nordic countries and japan on one hand and brazil and india on the other. Now, Interpersonal racism in the sense that you blanket dismiss people because of race is just unscientific and if consequential I feel it’s questionably moral. I tend to be pretty race blind in my friends, but my close friends, and my sexual relations are all absurdly close genetically. If I have friends from other races that I care deeply for (and I do), then that is very different from saying that i would want them to marry into my kin group, or my kin group marry into theirs, or even that we live in each other’s lands. The reality is that our upper classes are fine because they do not need kin groups and kin norms. But the lower the classes the more so the need, so that cost is immoral to impose on another people. So the material issue is transfer of other than a small number of elites who have no kin group affiliations in one another’s countries that may cause competition with the host people, and therefore limit their opportunity to preserve rule of law, markets in everything, and heavy redistribution (kin selection). Commons are as disproportionately productive as is cooperation between individuals and groups. It’s ridiculous. So kin=commons=wealth.

    –“And also, I understand that different groups simply evolved different average characteristics, but should we have a preference for particular groups based on the average prevalence of characteristics or temperaments that we value… is this not a form or ‘racism’, or at least getting very close?”—

    Well there are not ‘shoulds’ in preferences. There are goods in politics, and there are necessities in group competitive strategy. So I don’t know how to answer that question. You should prefer kin groups because the result produces optimum common goods the same way you should prefer moderate taxes because they produce high returns, the same way you should prefer the high cost of marriage because of those returns. But you know, time horizons are a family and clan objective, and the purpose of individualism was to destroy that time horizon. The underclasses have had a war against the better classes for millennia. This is just the most current attempt to destroy aristocratic families. This time they’re trying to end the whole race. Thanks brother 😉

  • If that’s right we should see dimorphic differences, brain structure differences

    If that’s right we should see dimorphic differences, brain structure differences, leading to verbal skill variation, moral intuition variation, greater gender variation, earlier or stronger asymmetric maturity,and differences in expression of aggression. And that is what we see.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 20:43:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975472740319875075

    Reply addressees: @hbdchick @TOOEdit

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @hbdchick @TOOEdit (a) It’s actually High-Trust/Male/Agrarian vs Low-Trust/Female/Pastoral.
    (b) Not sure genetic vs cultural, but as you’ve advocated it appears much more genetic.
    (c) I’m pretty sure that major group differences are pedomorphism/neoteny + size of underclass + gender endocrine bias

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @hbdchick @TOOEdit (a) It’s actually High-Trust/Male/Agrarian vs Low-Trust/Female/Pastoral.
    (b) Not sure genetic vs cultural, but as you’ve advocated it appears much more genetic.
    (c) I’m pretty sure that major group differences are pedomorphism/neoteny + size of underclass + gender endocrine bias

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040

  • (a) It’s actually High-Trust/Male/Agrarian vs Low-Trust/Female/Pastoral. (b) Not

    (a) It’s actually High-Trust/Male/Agrarian vs Low-Trust/Female/Pastoral.
    (b) Not sure genetic vs cultural, but as you’ve advocated it appears much more genetic.
    (c) I’m pretty sure that major group differences are pedomorphism/neoteny + size of underclass + gender endocrine bias


    Source date (UTC): 2018-03-18 20:40:06 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/975471931033047040

    Reply addressees: @hbdchick @TOOEdit

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/974642027349635072


    IN REPLY TO:

    @hbdchick

    my guess/prediction/bet: alt-right types who accept @TOOEdit’s theory about jews having a group evolutionary strategy tend to come from pops with particularistic (“clannish”) moral systems. #CognitiveBiases #EyeOfBeholder #HumanAllTooHuman

    (for god’s sake, don’t @ me!)

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/974642027349635072

  • Curt Doolittle’s answer: The British wanted to (rightly) recover the high cost o

    Curt Doolittle’s answer: The British wanted to (rightly) recover the high cost of defending the colonies, and the colonies didn’t want to pay for it. This process escalated to the point of civil (revolutionary) war. This was extremely foolish for both parties, as creating a house of the colonies ….