—“The misrepresentations and feigned confusion are not accidental; it’s deliberate character assassination”—Aubrey Harper
Of course it is. 😉
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 21:22:17 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098694420096901120
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/52810421_10157004014897264_5611111477843853312_o_10157004014892264.jpg M Ray DeeseLove the directness of the language used here.Feb 21, 2019, 8:45 PMCurt DoolittleHe is very talented. Unfortunately we can’t get a lot of his time.Feb 21, 2019, 8:45 PMCurt DoolittleWhich is a common problem.Feb 21, 2019, 8:46 PMBryan Nova BreyVery astute.
In Propertarian Operational Testimony (Truth Tests) it has last steps of
Complete (scope, limits, parsimony)
Coherent (across all these tests)
Warranty (having performed these tests)
I have the other 9 tests before this. I’m working on a document with Daniel Roland Anderson and sent the first draft to Bill Joslin.
Singular helps to underline why all pieces and tests are important.
I’ll send you a copy after a bit more work.Feb 21, 2019, 9:36 PMDaniel Roland AndersonBryan Nova Brey
Nice timing eh?Feb 21, 2019, 9:42 PMStephen ThomasWe need a “Gospel”. A simple, direct message for the common man to understand.Feb 21, 2019, 9:47 PMBryan Nova BreyDaniel Roland Anderson yeah and to have Singular point this out is really helpful. I understand what he’s saying and it really makes sense. Most critics only look at a piece, not the whole puzzle.Feb 21, 2019, 9:59 PMBryan Nova BreyTake a swing at it.
We all get better with practice.
Send it around for feedback.
The more we take ownership, the more it becomes ours.Feb 21, 2019, 10:04 PMDaniel Roland AndersonYeah. Singular nailed down that free floating sense I had the smart, educated critics were missing something.
Could be they drew on their specific area of expertise that allowed them to identify a single piece of the puzzle and them Dunning-Kruger convinced them they “got” it.
DK- is a real douche. Somebody ought to deal with him. Her. It. Whatever.Feb 21, 2019, 10:09 PMStephen ThomasHmm
That’s a tough one. The “good news” of P is hard to quantify. The “Gospel of Christ” is simple.
“All have sinned. The penalty for that is death and hell. Jesus came to die for our sins. If you confess, repent, believe and trust in Jesus. You will be forgiven, saved from that fate and granted eternal life in Heaven with God. ” (basically)
Very simple, very direct. Sets up a “current state of affairs”. The consequences of that state. The solution to that state’s consequences and the outcome of that solution.
Now how to condense P into such a “mold”?
The current state- Parasitism in all levels of our civilization
The consequences- The end of human development, a regression intellectually and the death of human liberty and sovereignty (another Dark Age)
The solution- Propertarianism, ban lies, liars and lying. Reciprocity, Markets in everything, property in toto etc.
The outcome- “Salvation” from the Dark Age (extinction) and the end of Parasites,
Now to put that in a very, simple direct paragraph.Feb 22, 2019, 12:07 AMBryan Nova BreyStephen Thomas That’s a pretty good start! 👊🏼Feb 22, 2019, 12:46 AMJohn MarkBryan Nova Brey can I get a copy of this too when its ready?Feb 22, 2019, 11:40 AMCurt DoolittleStephen Thomas lie: false debt for false crime, with false promise of reward.
Ancestors are in fact what got us here.
The universe is in fact what enabled us.
The only debts we owe are
– nature (the universe) (in truth)
– our ancestors, who made us possible (in truth)
– exemplary ancestors who made us possible (with truth)
– our peers who persist the gains of our ancestors. (in truth)Feb 22, 2019, 11:51 AMDaniel Roland AndersonJohn Mark
You’re pretty much the primary audience. You’ll get stuff shot your way whether you like it or not.
Bryan’s stuff will be useful.Feb 22, 2019, 12:16 PMBryan Nova BreyJohn Mark yes, of course!Feb 22, 2019, 12:18 PMJohn MarkDaniel Roland Anderson great yes I want to do a “prop definitions” vid with examples where I go through the prop definitions of property, reciprocity, & the falsehood tests w/ an example of each. The falsehood tests are where I’m least confident (least sure I wouldn’t say something inaccurate or incomplete) so I’m looking forward to seeing this.Feb 22, 2019, 12:40 PMDan WarrenThere is a part of the brain that causes religious experiences. This part of the brain does not seem to be present in everyone. I wonder if there is a propertarian part of the brain? Is only a small subset of people capable of groking propertarianism due to hardware limitations?Feb 22, 2019, 4:37 PMCurt Doolittleagency.Feb 22, 2019, 4:41 PMJWarren PrescottAn orchestrated shift in the fundamental culture of the legal system is a monumental endeavor. In the back of my mind some of my questions are of logistics – how many judges do we need, how do you train them and what warranties the judges against fraud and abuse, etc.?
I don’t think we need to answer all of the questions now because it is impractical to make P into a turnkey system prior to implementation – that’s counterproductive and shortsighted as any engineered system poses issues and challenges as design and implementation occur.Feb 22, 2019, 5:25 PMWilliam L. BengeExploration and thought experiments are the best part of being a human; the sense of wonderment at the complexity of the universe that results also brings a sense of belonging and fulfillment. Fine-tuned for human life? Reminders we are wanted.
The scope of natural law doesn’t stymie human happiness, but fully accommodates it.
Now if only we could get more of our fellows to mirror this same fine-tuning in their own thinking, behavior and every day life!Feb 25, 2019, 2:31 AM
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photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/51003444_10157003941082264_8257325237901721600_o_10157003941077264.jpg Michael ChurchillGood point. Ben Shapiro a good example.Feb 21, 2019, 7:57 PMDaniel Roland AndersonThat whole Christianity thing may not have done good things for your sunny outlook.
But you’ve seen a cadre develop around you—and it’s getting better and deeper and wider.
So, I’ll bet you any amount of money that we win anyway.
If I lose, you’ll have to collect from me in hell—if the Christians end up being right.
We’ll have some good company though.Feb 21, 2019, 9:52 PMTyler Karl LiaHe is also a Jew. That is how they work.Feb 22, 2019, 2:45 AM
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photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/52451588_10157003849107264_1817553593285214208_o_10157003849092264.jpg Noah J RevoyCode name for the first 100 men “The Inquisitors”.Feb 21, 2019, 6:44 PMCurt Doolittlegonna use thatFeb 21, 2019, 7:39 PMHoward Van Der KlauwI like the aliteration of Propertarian Prosecutors, but maybe we need Inquisitors too.Feb 21, 2019, 9:00 PMNoah J RevoyHoward Van Der Klauw High Inquisitor -> Inquisitor -> Propertarian Prosecutors. The first two are full time judging positions, going after lies wherever they see them. The last are the laymen who assist.Feb 22, 2019, 5:15 AM
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 18:43:00 UTC
—“The misrepresentations and feigned confusion are not accidental; it’s deliberate character assassination”—Aubrey Harper
Of course it is. 😉
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 16:22:00 UTC
—“The difference between repressing a thought and dismissing It is the level of confidence in your own agency”—Gunther Traffinstead
well done.
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 16:07:00 UTC
PRODUCING LEADERS NOT LEADING
by Tim Kay
To those who don’t get it: Curt’s a leader-producer, not a leader. Which is more crucial but just not the same role. Leaders are those best able to make use of the intellectual weaponry he develops in their respective niches. They emerge from the slush pile that is the audience. It seems to me that there is a core of Propertarian judges (those capable of continuing Curt’s work at his level) who are currently in development, and then a core of leaders (those who can propagate and mobilise), with some overlap between the two.
It would be incorrect to ask Curt to be the leader because …
*THE RIGHT ISN”T A MONOLITH*. … Leaders must be discovered in order to fit the demands of the various groups (and their grammars).
An important consideration is the long-term viability of the work. As such making it about Curt would defeat the purpose; seeding a sufficiently distributed group of leaders is essential.
To those who are looking for a leader, I would suggest nominating your existing de facto leader to get on board with Propertarianism and so fill one of the niches, or, to keep an eye on the talent produced by the project.
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from CURTD:
Let me repeat this because it’s the core of it:
—“Leaders must be discovered in order to fit the demands of the various groups (and their grammars). “—
I produce political weaponry. One of the weapons is leaders. I am not nor do I want to be a leader. We must act as one, not be led by one.
Honestly I’m absolutely floored someone made this argument (grammars) instead of me because it is evidence of how far we have come in PRODUCING thought leadership.
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Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 15:19:00 UTC
IT TAKES TWO YEARS
by John Mark
—“It’s laughable that somebody thinks they can just roll up, watch my vid & maybe read a few posts on the website, watch an interview or 2 with Curt, and then dive into a critique. This is why most of these “critiques” make elementary errors & strawman/misrepresent. They don’t really understand what they’re critiquing. … Heck, I followed Curt for close to 2yrs, reading daily, before opening my mouth. And I’m still hyper-aware of trying to make sure I don’t say something incorrect & still learn new things & angles of understanding frequently.
…. When they’re getting property-in-toto wrong you know they haven’t spent much time.”—
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 15:13:00 UTC
—“Remember to read “politics” in the first line of Curt Doolittle’s posts as “the silly, irrelevant kayfabe that passes for national politics in the USA today”.—William Frisby
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-20 15:34:25 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098244490719043584
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/52902784_10157000133672264_1644387718865616896_o_10157000133662264.jpg Very Smart Strategy…. very smart.Bill JoslinYup – doesn’t matter to Sheepdogs what the sheep bay about in the shed.Feb 20, 2019, 11:03 AMJim Catre…. What? Aren’t the most powerful millitaries in the world in primarily Christian nations, or am I missing something?Feb 20, 2019, 1:31 PMBenjamin LloydSomebody is forgetting the crusades? LmaoFeb 20, 2019, 1:38 PMJanderson RexCurrenlyt on active duty. The officer corps is filled with soy boys, pregnant women, various shades of brown and maybe, a few honest warriors. Somewhere, probably in SOCOMFeb 20, 2019, 1:40 PMChristel Rae MasonAryans posing as Christians? something tells me today’s Christians are very different. mostly disappointed with their capacity to see reality clearly – with notable exceptions.Feb 20, 2019, 4:11 PMSteve PrimeY’all have a piss poor attitude twards Christians. Thats gonna prove propertarianisms’s downfall. After we wipe out the Commies in a civil war were gonna end up turning guns on each other because your not going to force shit down our throats. You have to dumb it down so us government educated people can understand like the debates on the Constitution. You have two choices, convince the population or gather an army and force it on us. Then it would be a dictatorship. People want to adhere to our Constitution and bill of rights. If you want to build on that with p ropertarian concepts all ya gotta do is pass the amendments. All your doing is pissing off alot of your own base.Feb 20, 2019, 10:09 PMCurt DoolittleI did my job. My job is truth. There is no compromise.
Therefore there must be explicit tolerance for christian ‘prose’..
I”m done working on religion now. Go away and let me do my thing while the faithful do theirs – which means NOTHING.Feb 20, 2019, 10:11 PMSteve Primegood comeback. How about you address the issues I’ve stated? How are you gonna get the masses to get behind propertarianism while you shit on everyone? How about you go away? I asked good pointed questions in the public commons and you want to shut me up. Is that how the first ammendment under propertarianism is delt with?Feb 20, 2019, 10:26 PMSteve PrimeI liked what I heard from the John Mark videos and he spoke of you so here I am checking you out and holy shit you gotta be kidding me. I really wanna like propertarianism but you gotta convince us and so far your not doing a good job. I’m not trying to fight you I just want to understand.Feb 20, 2019, 10:29 PMCurt DoolittleYou are just … a newbie.
I run tests. I make arguments and I run tests. These tests constitute a king of the hill game. In this game I might be teaching, or I might be conducting research or both. In other words, as any long time follower knows, I use y’all as volunteers in my experiments that test reaction to different approaches.
Over the past few weeks I’ve been running a test to see the reaction of different groups to requirement of truthful speech in religion. And recording the means of argument used, and the intention of those arguments. This allowed me to choose from three different options in the construction of a constitution. And it allowed me to see the goal of christians. And how to find a method of evolving religion over the next few centuries. And I learned absolutely nothing that I didn’t expect going in other than the vehemence of christians in the working and lower classes is very different from those in my life experience at the other end of the scale. This is unimaginable to me but then the problem with supergeeks is an inability to ‘see downward’ into ordinary minds.
Now, you (all) don’t know you’re (all) a test subject. And if you did I couldn’t trust your reactions.
My goal is to write a permanent law of our people. If I fail to make a populist movement then my work will still live on. I am still up and down on whether to make such a movement. My original feeling was that we should create a frankfurt school and take our time. However, the crisis period seems to emerge and so this makes me experiment with more popular options.
So whether I create a book, a school, a movement, a revolution, a successful transformation, are just sets of options. The only way I can fail is not to try.
I move forward.
I thought I knew the answer going in. I do. I’m just frustrated that I was correct.Feb 20, 2019, 10:37 PMSteve PrimeCurt Doolittle I understand so called Christians suck and I agree. They’ve done what the Bible told them not to do, be decieved. They believe in a pre trib rapture because They’re too scared to go through tribulation. That dont believe there were some form of humanoids on earth before Adam. Gen chapter one is God reforming the earth after Satans fall. They dont believe Angels had sex with humans and produced the nephilim like it says in genesis 6. The problem with Christianity is that evil infiltrated the Church. I’m not tolerated in Church because I wont sit down and shut up. Good people cant infiltrate an evil organization and reform it from the inside without becoming evil. However all good organizations get infiltrated by evil wearing a suit and tie with a smile. Jesus said many will come to me in that day and say Lord Lord didnt we prophesy and cast out demons in your name and he will say to them depart from me I never knew you. Most so called Christians are gonna wind up in hell. That being said a lot of those people love America and the Constitution and will fight when the time comes. Like the battle of lexington and concord. Thet will not fight for propertarianism. How do you suppose to get them to support your ideas unless you use the system already in place unless you suppose to do it by force?Feb 20, 2019, 10:53 PMCurt DoolittleI don’t. I have to put it into the constitution explicitly. I dn’t do philosophy. there are no ‘weasel words’. I just have to write a clause that specifically license faith vs law. which I probably said three times at length today.Feb 20, 2019, 10:54 PMSteve PrimeCurt Doolittle I suggest you get John Mark to do a video explaining how Christianity plays into your vision. Like I said you need to dumb it down for us newbie’s and gobermint edumakated folks. Btw you keep saying your done with the religion test but keep posting on religion. Thats why I commented on this post. 😄 goodnight.Feb 20, 2019, 10:59 PMM Shawn Davisand here I am observing Curt and his A/B testing wondering what the hell he thinks he’s going to learn from a small sample size of this FB page?
I question the wisdom of doing this testing, when there are a lot of new people being turned on to the idea of the this ‘philosophy’ from John Mark’s videos. Who have come to learn more not be insulted. I’m not even a Christian and was turned off by some of the framing of these ‘tests’.Feb 20, 2019, 11:14 PMCurt DoolittleYou learn quite a bit really. It only takes a sample size of about a thousand people to identify a pattern in opinion research. And activists simply present a clearer view of the underlying frame.
Christianity is what it is. We have to move forward without reform, so we do what we can do. -cheers.Feb 20, 2019, 11:20 PMVery Smart Strategy…. very smart.
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-20 10:56:00 UTC