Curt Doolittle

Form: Quote Commentary

  • Occult: It’s cool, it’s hip, and it’s accessible.

    October 26th, 2018 4:17 PM

    —“Can someone please explain to me why this occult shit is so attractive? I mean, it’s like reading fantasy fiction for the politically frustrated?”— Curt Doolittle

    by Goran Dahl It’s cool, it’s hip, and it’s accessible. You read something like Metaphysics of War, and it’s not that different from The Fellowship of the Ring. Same beautifully constructed sentences, full of poetic words, riddled with lofty nouns that are inevitably capitalized like the philosophical texts of old. One of my favourites is when they capitalize Truth (whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean). Who the fuck wants to read this “operational”, “via negativa” garbage, whatever that is? It all looks like computer code to me and that stuff is for nerds, right? These kids grew up with this stuff, this poison from Arktos and Counter-Currents. And what’s more, they will never, for the life of them, consider that maybe – just maybe – they shouldn’t trust these jesters and their sources, all of which are rooted in religious texts. You see, atheism or even agnosticism, those aren’t options; those are the tools of the Left. Surely, we cannot espouse the opinions of the Left, so instead, we will regress further and further and become ever more backward until this vile, leftist materialism and its child, despicable Science, are utterly obliterated and replaced with a spiritually transcendent society, which will be guided by religious texts, “perennial truths”, that were totally not written by fools and deceptive human beings, but instead written by people possessed by powerful, metaphysical forces, the names of which are once again capitalized for effect and this perverted stack of lies continues getting higher and higher and higher..

    —“That is the best explanation anyone has ever given me: Fantasy Fiction. Thank you.”— Curt Doolittle

  • The language of forbearance being withdrawn

    October 26th, 2018 12:30 PM

    —“No one can say for sure when things will shift hard enough, but if you listen close you can hear the cracks forming. You will know the shift is occurring when people stop talking about what they are willing to die to protect and start talking about what they are willing to do to protect. For the herd that voice comes from a group who is panicked and feels backed into a corner. For the herd that is the language of fear when they are left with no choice but to recognize the capacity of tolerance to carry the load is exceeded. Evidence the herd is reaching that point is easy to find. For the pack that voice comes from a group who is poised to be done carrying costs not their own. For the pack that is the language of forbearance being withdrawn.”—Luke Weinhagen

  • the last 20 years

    October 26th, 2018 11:11 AM

    —“All of the fighting age men in the US have spent the last 20 years watching a third world insurgent force using almost entirely small arms go toe-to-toe with the worlds greatest military. Only difference over here is we have more trees.”— Luke Weinhagen

    (priceless) Revolution Comes.

  • Grokking a Frame of Argument.

    October 26th, 2018 10:31 AM GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT.

    —“( When we say ‘Tradition’ we are using it as a noun, a synonym to ‘Perennial Wisdom’) – a metaphysical claim to Truth. See: Perennial philosophy – Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy Specifically of the Traditionalist School (which purges the New Agey bs) See: Traditionalist School – Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School )”— Elders of the Black Sun 3

    [S]o you mean Wisdom (evidence of survival in use of prolongation of a group evolutionary strategy: ie Peterson’s ‘Darwinian Truth’ ) as an equivalent to Truth (testimony that is consistent, correspondent, coherent, operational, existentially possible, complete), independent of preference or good. And you mean Wisdom Literature rather than Scientific (Correspondent) Description. And which Tradition are you referring to? French, Authoritarian, Supernatural, or Anglo, Contractual, Real? I think you mean French, Authoritarian, Universal, and Supernatural, or the German restatement of Authoritarian, National, and Ideal(imaginary). But you don’t mean Anglo, Contractual, and Real (Science). Ok… so yes, you are speaking in Postmodern (anti-scientific, anti-real, anti-darwinian) school of the French and Italian catholic reformists: Traditionalist School. And, yes, you are relying on Perennialism (universalism, and eternalism of the content of the wisdom literature developed under agrarianism and pastoralism, but abandoned under industrialism.) So, Continental (Secular Catholic), Postmodern (anti-realist, anti-scientific), literature and intutionism (anti-calculation). And yes, this is the secularization of catholic authoritarian conformity of the laboring classes who cannot afford to learn, or are unable to learn, and then make use of calculation and computation for the purpose of competitive evolution, and so rely on sentimental stagnation as a resistance movement. Ok. I think I get it. Well, what I really like is the depth you’re going into. Good work.

  • “Can someone please explain to me why this occult shit is so attractive? I mean,

    —“Can someone please explain to me why this occult shit is so attractive? I mean, it’s like reading fantasy fiction for the politically frustrated?”— Curt Doolittle

    by Göran Dahl

    It’s cool, it’s hip, and it’s accessible. You read something like Metaphysics of War, and it’s not that different from The Fellowship of the Ring. Same beautifully constructed sentences, full of poetic words, riddled with lofty nouns that are inevitably capitalized like the philosophical texts of old.

    One of my favourites is when they capitalize Truth (whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean). Who the fuck wants to read this “operational”, “via negativa” garbage, whatever that is? It all looks like computer code to me and that stuff is for nerds, right?

    These kids grew up with this stuff, this poison from Arktos and Counter-Currents. And what’s more, they will never, for the life of them, consider that maybe – just maybe – they shouldn’t trust these jesters and their sources, all of which are rooted in religious texts.

    You see, atheism or even agnosticism, those aren’t options; those are the tools of the Left. Surely, we cannot espouse the opinions of the Left, so instead, we will regress further and further and become ever more backward until this vile, leftist materialism and its child, despicable Science, are utterly obliterated and replaced with a spiritually transcendent society, which will be guided by religious texts, “perennial truths”, that were totally not written by fools and deceptive human beings, but instead written by people possessed by powerful, metaphysical forces, the names of which are once again capitalized for effect and this perverted stack of lies continues getting higher and higher and higher..

    —“That is the best explanation anyone has ever given me: Fantasy Fiction. Thank you.”— Curt Doolittle

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 16:17:00 UTC

  • Q: GREG: – What goal did you want to accomplish with this book? – Do you think y

    Q: GREG:

    – What goal did you want to accomplish with this book?

    – Do you think you accomplished it?

    — I see the book as providing motivation, arguments and strategy for gradually winning the discourse. Is that right?

    — What makes you think the idea of WN has reach? Especially with urbanites in the immigrant cities?

    — Can you explain bourgeoise morality( consumerism ) vs the civil society, vs the religious/spiritual models? (I think you missed the mark on that one).

    –You counsel against revisiting old regimes. Can you explain why that is? (I can explain why people are seeking a power narrative.)

    — Rhetorical Ammunition in support of which strategy?

    DIFFERENCES

    Greg: Philosophy, Education, Appeal to rational choice.

    Curt: Economics, Incentives, Law, License for Violence

    Greg: appeal to morality and reason.

    Curt: threat if reciprocity not met, licensing violence.

    Greg: we must via-positiva control culture and values. Requires permanent ideological indoctrination with all the vulnerabilities that have been seen in the 19th and 20thc.

    Curt: we must criminalize and punish that which is criminal, unethical, and immoral in display word and deed. Meaning: minority rule policed by individual self interest.

    Greg: Philosophy, Education, Religion: Via-positiva control

    Curt: Economics, Law, Markets: via negativa limits

    Greg: White Nationalism as ‘good and right’ and whites should prefer this (despite evidence they prefer doing nothing.)

    Curt: Nationalism instead of globalism, because it is the only means of forcing each of us to pay our own costs of domestication, and as such the only incentive not to exterminate, conquer and prey upon, or keep weak and powerless.

    Greg: reasons for whites to agree…

    Curt: voluntary disassociation and devolution of normative regulation to the states will create all the necessary incentives for coastals centrals, and souths to ‘go their own ways’. Collapse will occur by natural pressures of self interest.

    Greg: mobilize (something) (I don’t understand strategy)

    Curt: produce a constitution of rules, processes, and polities that are so desirable that we generate demand for change. Then threaten sufficient uprising by a tiny minority that the population and the military replace the government and enforce it.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 15:35:00 UTC

  • “No one can say for sure when things will shift hard enough, but if you listen c

    —“No one can say for sure when things will shift hard enough, but if you listen close you can hear the cracks forming.

    You will know the shift is occurring when people stop talking about what they are willing to die to protect and start talking about what they are willing to do to protect.

    For the herd that voice comes from a group who is panicked and feels backed into a corner. For the herd that is the language of fear when they are left with no choice but to recognize the capacity of tolerance to carry the load is exceeded. Evidence the herd is reaching that point is easy to find.

    For the pack that voice comes from a group who is poised to be done carrying costs not their own. For the pack that is the language of forbearance being withdrawn.”—Luke Weinhagen

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 12:30:00 UTC

  • “All of the fighting age men in the US have spent the last 20 years watching a t

    —“All of the fighting age men in the US have spent the last 20 years watching a third world insurgent force using almost entirely small arms go toe-to-toe with the worlds greatest military. Only difference over here is we have more trees.”— Luke Weinhagen

    (priceless)

    Revolution Comes.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 11:11:00 UTC

  • GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT. —“( When we say ‘Traditi

    GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT.

    —“(

    When we say ‘Tradition’ we are using it as a noun, a synonym to ‘Perennial Wisdom’) – a metaphysical claim to Truth.

    See: Perennial philosophy – Wikipedia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy

    Specifically of the Traditionalist School (which purges the New Agey bs)

    See: Traditionalist School – Wikipedia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School

    )”— Elders of the Black Sun 3

    So you mean Wisdom (evidence of survival in use of prolongation of a group evolutionary strategy: ie Peterson’s ‘Darwinian Truth’ ) as an equivalent to Truth (testimony that is consistent, correspondent, coherent, operational, existentially possible, complete), independent of preference or good. And you mean Wisdom Literature rather than Scientific (Correspondent) Description.

    And which Tradition are you referring to? French, Authoritarian, Supernatural, or Anglo, Contractual, Real?

    I think you mean French, Authoritarian, Universal, and Supernatural, or the German restatement of Authoritarian, National, and Ideal(imaginary). But you don’t mean Anglo, Contractual, and Real (Science).

    Ok… so yes, you are speaking in Postmodern (anti-scientific, anti-real, anti-darwinian) school of the French and Italian catholic reformists: Traditionalist School.

    And, yes, you are relying on Perennialism (universalism, and eternalism of the content of the wisdom literature developed under agrarianism and pastoralism, but abandoned under industrialism.)

    So, Continental (Secular Catholic), Postmodern (anti-realist, anti-scientific), literature and intutionism (anti-calculation).

    And yes, this is the secularization of catholic authoritarian conformity of the laboring classes who cannot afford to learn, or are unable to learn, and then make use of calculation and computation for the purpose of competitive evolution, and so rely on sentimental stagnation as a resistance movement.

    Ok. I think I get it.

    Well, what I really like is the depth you’re going into. Good work.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 10:31:00 UTC

  • “Unfortunately when people say they are Traditionalist they mean they are ideali

    —“Unfortunately when people say they are Traditionalist they mean they are idealists with no knowledge of actual tradition.”—Chris Moyer

    (now that’s a bit of insight for the day)

    (I would say it as:

    —“idealism is a means of providing false self confidence in the face of overwhelming but intolerable ignorance.”—

    )

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 09:34:00 UTC