you can do all these things because you are, frankly, irrelevant. Those of us that are relevant need AUDIENCES. And we cannot get AUDIENCES on gab when the features necessary for serious discussion are not available.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-18 16:28:33 UTC
Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/5148891310886609
Because I want to nag the people behind GAB out of being an tenth rate twitter clone, and into a platform that can compete with the mainstream.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-18 16:25:38 UTC
Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/5148873810886422
American television. Fake friends and family for isolated, ignorant, credit-enslaved, well intentioned, who don’t have any friends and family.
Burn it all to the ground. Re-socialize human beings. So that they cannot be controlled by the evil state.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-18 10:51:00 UTC
Dear Lunatics,
All you have discovered is that history is full of a lot of idiots like you.
The job of historians is to discover the few fragments of truth despite the preponderance of idiots who wrote drivel and nonsense for popular consumption the same way that some idiot wrote the voynich manuscript: for money and fun.
The world is a very simple place. All science whether human or physical is very simple. People are simple. It’s their fantasies and lies that are complicated.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-15 12:28:00 UTC
—“I”m not immoral. I raised four children as a single mother and….”—
Yes you are immoral.
We are talking about your ridicule and shaming of others when you have little if any grasp of history, and certainly no grasp of the common law, economics, science, and comparative civilizations, cultures, and institutions. Especially given the luxury that has been the experience of western women by comparison to all other cultures – back to 4000bc.
Only children talk in ideals. the rest of us talk in possibilities and costs.
Property made marriage necessary. Childbearing and strength made separation of duties necessary. An average of 5-6 children only half of whom lived to adulthood made women a malinvestment in education *until* it was no longer a malinvestment. Men freed women of labor *first* before they freed themselves of labor.
The primary beneficiaries of modernity have been women, not men. For men, we are far better off running around in pickup trucks with a dozen of our friends, eating fresh meat, working 12 hours a week – if that – and hunting each other and animals.
Civilization was made by men for the benefit of women. Look around the world. Enjoy it. But don’t buy the marxist bullshit. The aristocracy shrunk the size of hte lower classes through upward redistribution of food, and reproduction, while replacing them with downward migration of the middle class. In other words, the aristocracy domesticated the animal man for profit and women reaped the benefits of it.
We don’t expect you to appreciate what our ancestors have done. On the other hand, we don’t expect you to destroy everything they have made, and we inherited.
Which is what you and women like you do every time you trash talk western civilization.
And what you have done is doom men to poverty and loneliness in old age, predatory taxation, the destruction of thousands of years of civilizational capital, for the sake of virtue-signaling falsehoods sold to you as “useful idiots” in the modern era by marxists and postmodernists, just as women were useful idiots that spread christianity and destroyed romany civilization in the ancient world.
The question isn’t why women don’t have it better. The question is why women have anything at all given their record of destroying western civilization twice now – by acting as infantilized irrational spoiled children.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-15 10:28:00 UTC
WE *CAN* WIN A DOMINANT ROLE, SO YOU MUST MAKE IT WORTH OUR WHILE *NOT* TO WIN A DOMINANT ROLE
By Eli Harman (edited for general audience)
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Eli’s arguments are reducible to 1) yes women think they can rebel against the compromise between the genders without men doing the same – and this is what the world will look like if men do the same: sharia law is an illustration of what occurs if men want it to. 2) women have consistently voted to destroy the compromise between the genders, to the extent that the current destruction of western civilization through disintegration of the family and massive immigration that would never have happened without women voting consistently for it. (Yep, thats the data) 3) men should all rebel against western civilization as well, and imitate the muslims (hence ‘white sharia’ memes) – because the islamic model is the more beneficial condition for men. So Eli’s arguments are meant to illustrate and agitate, as a politicized version of the Men’s Rights Movement.
( BTW: * All psychologism is lying. We all follow incentives. if you cannot argue using incentives, you’re just using the feminine technique of gossiping, disapproval, shaming, ridiculing, rallying. It is not argument. We all know this. Note that Eli uses incentives not psychologisms. )
-Curt
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It is reasonable to suppose that the aim of your disapproval, ridicule, shaming, and rallying, is not simply to call attention to a man’s sexual market value, but to diminish it – to retaliate for thoughts and statements (which are obviously the real issue) and to obtain moral and social leverage to COERCE men into silence by the threat of further diminishment.
This is a credible threat because women gauge such things, not independently, but largely from social cues.
By manufacturing these cues, through rallying, shaming, and gossip, women have lately succeeded in attaining unprecedented social and institutional power to organize the administration of social sanction and sexual boycott, to advance their interests against men’s and to impose their sensibilities and imperatives upon men.
We call these means, RALLYING, SHAMING, and GOSSIP, together, “the feminine means of coercion.” They are analogous to more masculine means of coercion (VIOLENCE) in that they aim, not at the discovery or propagation of TRUTH, but at the achievement of particular outcomes by RAISING THE COSTS of the behaviors against which they are directed.
Another word that was formerly employed for the same thing, was being “unladylike.”
That’s an important point to bring up because ladylike behavior is a logical and necessary correlate and corequisite for gentlemanly behavior. You can’t have the one without the other.
Since you have crossed that line, one has a number of choices for how to respond.
1) Submit, surrender to your authority, repent, and plead for leniency. (Not gonna happen.)
2) Retaliate in kind by making disparaging comments about your ages, likely past sexual indiscretions, or emotional baggage.
3) Resort to more masculine means of coercion (violence.)
But, despite your early resort to the feminine means of coercion, (rallying, shaming, gossip) you have nevertheless demonstrated uncommon aptitude and understanding so I am willing to offer an additional option
4) retreat to the realm of facts, issues, and ideas and discuss those in their own terms and in good faith.
As far as that goes, the main issue is that rights do not exist as you think they exist.
Rights can exist productively and sustainably if they are obtained in exchange, one benefit or consideration for another (e.g. gentlemanly behavior for ladylike) then it can be a win-win, and durable.
If cooperation based on rights originating in exchange and resulting in mutual benefits breaks down there are two further options. Non-cooperation (boycott, disassociation) or conflict (coercion) aiming to obtain surrender and submission (option 1 above.)
But if you resort to conflict and coercion (by the feminine means) there is no reason for me to try to cooperate with you. Cooperation can’t be a one way street.
And you have ruined option 1 for yourselves (going forward) by making submission to feminine sensibilities and imperatives more costly – for men – than resorting to conflict, which men can win, because we have more means of coercion at our disposal, if we only use them.
You don’t understand that submission to your demands is now too costly for men or why, because you don’t understand male sensibilities or male endeavors.
But that is the fact. And even if we cannot communicate the full dimensions and characteristics of that fact to you, because you are women, we can communicate that it is a fact, by a variety of means.
And now we will.
You claim that men feel entitled to a dominant role.
But we don’t feel that I am entitled to anything. And neither are you entitled to anything.
We are simply able, by virtue of my superior size, strength, aggression, and risk tolerance, in confederation with our friends and allies (men also do allegiance, loyalty and solidarity better than women) to WIN a dominant role.
So if you don’t want us to win a dominant role then you have to make it worth my while not to try to win a dominant role. Or you have to make it worth someone’s while to stop me from winning a dominant role.
But you’re not going to keep getting things for nothing, or by the means by which you have been getting them, namely the feminine means of coercion (rallying, shaming, and gossip.)
The Gravy Train is over.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-14 08:33:00 UTC
Wait. No argument. Just ridicule, shaming, psychologizing, and rallying. Hmm. That means it must be a beta male, a marxist or a woman. Yes. it’s a WOMAN. Surprise. And she is yet another example of why infantilized women are the origin of the fall of the west: it’s not that they abandon reason. It’s that they never practice it in the first place. A woman without at least a strong father and two brothers, or at least three if not five children, is a danger to civilization. Because she has not been de-infantilized through male-female compromise.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-13 17:11:00 UTC
A Meme is an Ad. They convey information by ridicule, sarcasm, or humor. And there are many OTHER places to place “Ads”. I don’t do ‘Ads’. Why? As Bill Joslin says, placing an ad in your enemy’s media is a great tactic. Putting it in your own is somewhere between masturbation and wasting everyone’s time. It’s certainly wasting my time.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-13 14:56:00 UTC
MEME FREE ZONE
WARNING: No memes in this page. Memes are for people who cant make arguments and so need memes. I can make arguments, and I made a forum specifically for good arguments. And I keep it ‘clean’ of non-arguments and most bad arguments.
(Sorry. It’s a class thing. )
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-13 12:21:00 UTC
Assumes a non-scarcity of time and attention In other words, if you have nothing to say and nothing to contribute and your time is not precious then of course it is an equally unimportant investment for you. I can’t even compose an intelligent response to you in 300 chars.
Source date (UTC): 2017-08-11 16:02:29 UTC
Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/5088254910614520