Form: Critique

  • You Cannot Appropriate P or Climb on P’s Bus in Defense of Your Lying.

    February 20th, 2019 10:31 AM

    —“I think he is saying that you are gossip rallying yourself in this instance and that it is relatively well placed on the irony scale.”—Jay Thompson

    I thought RECIPROCITY was moral. And that ‘he’ is using pilpul to create a false equivalency between argument vs argument and ridicule vs ridicule. Which is sophistry or dishonesty or ignorance, or stupidity. THE ARGUMENTATIVE PROCESS If ridiculed, return it, and then restate the central argument. If that process doesn’t return to argument, repeat. If repetition doesn’t work, the return to violence. Never let GSRRM go unanswered. Identify it. Return it. Restate the central argument. (inform thru repetition) Repeat. Hardly requires restating the central argument with Kinsella. THERE IS NO ROOM ON THE BUS FOR LIES This is why I don’t see hope for y’all. You are all dependent upon the use of avoidance of the central argument like women, jews, and muslims, which demonstrates that christianity is a vehicle for the deceits of women, jews, and muslims and therefore you cannot ‘earn the franchise’ by reciprocity of truthful speech. Every time you make one of these childish bits of nonsense all you do is confirm: you are not able to evolve past that level of infantilism we equate to women and children or that level of dishonesty we call abrahamism. So please stop wasting my time. We cannot cooperate, because we cannot agree to reciprocity, and we cannot agree to reciprocity because we cannot agree to truthful speech that would end abrahamic deception in supernatural, ideal, sophomoric, and pseudoscientific terms, that gave us judaism, christianity, islam, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and denialism, using the very means of fraudulent discourse you are using with me. It’s not complicated. Just not worth talking about. Xians must find a way on their own. I can’t help those who are allies of the enemy. And christians are allies of the enemy of our people. Because christians are more allied to jews, christians, and muslims than they are to their people, their science and their law and their history. Solve your own problem. There is no ride on P for christians in alliance with the enemy on the preservation of lying. Truth is my way and the original way of our people before the dark ages of abrahamic ignorance and submission. Find your own way. There is no way of appropriating P in defense of lying.

  • You Cannot Appropriate P or Climb on P’s Bus in Defense of Your Lying.

    February 20th, 2019 10:31 AM

    —“I think he is saying that you are gossip rallying yourself in this instance and that it is relatively well placed on the irony scale.”—Jay Thompson

    I thought RECIPROCITY was moral. And that ‘he’ is using pilpul to create a false equivalency between argument vs argument and ridicule vs ridicule. Which is sophistry or dishonesty or ignorance, or stupidity. THE ARGUMENTATIVE PROCESS If ridiculed, return it, and then restate the central argument. If that process doesn’t return to argument, repeat. If repetition doesn’t work, the return to violence. Never let GSRRM go unanswered. Identify it. Return it. Restate the central argument. (inform thru repetition) Repeat. Hardly requires restating the central argument with Kinsella. THERE IS NO ROOM ON THE BUS FOR LIES This is why I don’t see hope for y’all. You are all dependent upon the use of avoidance of the central argument like women, jews, and muslims, which demonstrates that christianity is a vehicle for the deceits of women, jews, and muslims and therefore you cannot ‘earn the franchise’ by reciprocity of truthful speech. Every time you make one of these childish bits of nonsense all you do is confirm: you are not able to evolve past that level of infantilism we equate to women and children or that level of dishonesty we call abrahamism. So please stop wasting my time. We cannot cooperate, because we cannot agree to reciprocity, and we cannot agree to reciprocity because we cannot agree to truthful speech that would end abrahamic deception in supernatural, ideal, sophomoric, and pseudoscientific terms, that gave us judaism, christianity, islam, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and denialism, using the very means of fraudulent discourse you are using with me. It’s not complicated. Just not worth talking about. Xians must find a way on their own. I can’t help those who are allies of the enemy. And christians are allies of the enemy of our people. Because christians are more allied to jews, christians, and muslims than they are to their people, their science and their law and their history. Solve your own problem. There is no ride on P for christians in alliance with the enemy on the preservation of lying. Truth is my way and the original way of our people before the dark ages of abrahamic ignorance and submission. Find your own way. There is no way of appropriating P in defense of lying.

  • White boys like Kinsella trying to gossip rally and shame like women and jews wi

    White boys like Kinsella trying to gossip rally and shame like women and jews without the creativity is so boring – it’s like bad comedians, or grad-schoolers doing shakespeare. Tolerable for the parents only. Embarrassing for everyone else.

    πŸ˜‰


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-20 13:36:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098214842115203072

  • YOU CANNOT APPROPRIATE P OR CLIMB ON P’S BUS IN DEFENSE OF YOUR LYING. —“I thi

    YOU CANNOT APPROPRIATE P OR CLIMB ON P’S BUS IN DEFENSE OF YOUR LYING.

    —“I think he is saying that you are gossip rallying yourself in this instance and that it is relatively well placed on the irony scale.”—Jay Thompson

    I thought RECIPROCITY was moral.

    And that ‘he’ is using pilpul to create a false equivalency between argument vs argument and ridicule vs ridicule. Which is sophistry or dishonesty or ignorance, or stupidity.

    THE ARGUMENTATIVE PROCESS

    If ridiculed, return it, and then restate the central argument.

    If that process doesn’t return to argument, repeat.

    If repetition doesn’t work, the return to violence.

    Never let GSRRM go unanswered.

    Identify it.

    Return it.

    Restate the central argument. (inform thru repetition)

    Repeat.

    Hardly requires restating the central argument with Kinsella.

    THERE IS NO ROOM ON THE BUS FOR LIES

    This is why I don’t see hope for y’all. You are all dependent upon the use of avoidance of the central argument like women, jews, and muslims, which demonstrates that christianity is a vehicle for the deceits of women, jews, and muslims and therefore you cannot ‘earn the franchise’ by reciprocity of truthful speech.

    Every time you make one of these childish bits of nonsense all you do is confirm: you are not able to evolve past that level of infantilism we equate to women and children or that level of dishonesty we call abrahamism.

    So please stop wasting my time.

    We cannot cooperate, because we cannot agree to reciprocity, and we cannot agree to reciprocity because we cannot agree to truthful speech that would end abrahamic deception in supernatural, ideal, sophomoric, and pseudoscientific terms, that gave us judaism, christianity, islam, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and denialism, using the very means of fraudulent discourse you are using with me.

    It’s not complicated.

    Just not worth talking about.

    Xians must find a way on their own.

    I can’t help those who are allies of the enemy.

    And christians are allies of the enemy of our people.

    Because christians are more allied to jews, christians, and muslims than they are to their people, their science and their law and their history.

    Solve your own problem. There is no ride on P for christians in alliance with the enemy on the preservation of lying.

    Truth is my way and the original way of our people before the dark ages of abrahamic ignorance and submission.

    Find your own way.

    There is no way of appropriating P in defense of lying.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-20 10:31:00 UTC

  • White boys like Kinsella trying to gossip rally and shame like women and jews wi

    White boys like Kinsella trying to gossip rally and shame like women and jews without the creativity is so boring – it’s like bad comedians, or grad-schoolers doing shakespeare. Tolerable for the parents only. Embarrassing for everyone else.

    πŸ˜‰


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-20 08:36:00 UTC

  • RESULTS OF TESTING THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT’S ABILITY TO CONDUCT A TRADE WITH THE GRO

    RESULTS OF TESTING THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT’S ABILITY TO CONDUCT A TRADE WITH THE GROWING UNAFFILIATED.

    Nothing. changed. at. all.

    HABITUATED REDUCTIONISM

    0. It’s not possible for ordinary people to distinguish between (a) the law proper, and (b) the constitutional implementation of that law as federating contract, and (c) the regional or local law as adaptive to tradition and norm, where local constitutions that differ according to local preference (demand).

    So no matter how we preface it, we have a body politic indoctrinated into ideal thought and we are in a position where we must appeal to lowest common denominator in order to have the numbers to obtain power to demand constitutional reform (restoration of natural rights under natural law.)

    Disappointing but expected. Means we should continue to selectively include the ‘smart folk’ and work on the solution and disassociate from and ignore the non-intellectual class as the ‘voice of reason’ between left and right “in the interests of the center”.

    SPECIFY THE FRAME OF THE ANSWER (Despite frustrating the audience.)

    1. I have to be very clear and preface every answer with whether they want the answer according to “the law”, a federal constitution(insurer of last resort limited to real property (private and public), a state constitution or a local constitution not limited to real property (including norms and commons). People think I’m waffling because they want a religion, philosophy, or ideology that isn’t a division of labor and purvey. But no matter what I do I end up with ‘in a propertarian world…?” (which is meaningless), rather than ‘with propertarianism can we construct….?” We can construct anything. There are at least three possible means of running a government given our current condition.

    EXPLAIN FROM THE TOP DOWN

    2. In explanations I need to start at the top down (vision) rather than bottom up (science) and say that P, at least for european peoples, would recommend, because of our genetics and cultures, that we restore the many states if not city states of europe. And that MOST of the time when I am talking I am recommending that solution. HOWEVER, we can (a) do so and secede, we can (b) simply devolve the federal government and sort without seceding, or (c)we can attempt to take over the federal government and enforce the devolution of the federal scope of responsibilities and devolve non-real-property (everything but insurer of last resort) to the states. In other words, P IS TOOLKIT. With the P TOOLKIT I am proposing one of a nearly infinite number of constitutions for different peoples.

    IMPOSSIBILITY OF STANDARDIZATION – Trade Impossible.

    3. Religiosity/Rationality/Science and class/intelligence, religious heritage/tradition, training into different sects, There exists no immediate solution to the problem of our religions other than prohibiting alien religions, providing incentives, and letting time continue to run its course. Why? Just as animals imprint we behave similarly thru training that is continuously reinforced and justified. And only significant adaptive opportunity or pressure alters this training. Those of us who are more naturally scandinavian will migrate one way, those more continental another, and those more mediterranean or slavic another, and that will simply mean the preservation of our cults. The problem is not there, but in eliminating further jewish and muslim damage to the civilization.

    NATURE TAKE ITS COURSE, ABANDON ATTEMPT AT RESTORING THE CHURCH

    4. For my part it is better to truncate the constitutional section on religion, not try to save or reform the religion, expand education, expand festivals and holidays, and let natural evolution take its course in the production of educational differences that are expressible as religious differences. In other words it is not possible to restore the centrality of the church to the polity. Without the compromise of truth, there is no means by which the faithful and the rational can be institutionally unified.

    PIVOT MAINSTREAM

    5. I think P is better for normies ‘that want to get along’ than for the right wing and left wing fringe. And pivoting away from the fringe to the mainstream is something we should have done a bit earlier, but are now only able to. Even though I think we are not ready.

    Underlying biological imperatives.

    … (F) – Religious fringe (Feminine/Submission),

    … (aM) – Anarchic fringe(Exchange).

    … (eM) – Authoritarian Fringe(Masculine/Dominance),

    All of these fringes look for rules by which they can avoid negotiation and compromise with people (monopolies). Each express their bias in method of argument (paradigm and vocabulary) as well as masculine libertarian or feminine application of (eM) Established-Masculine-Threat, (aM)Ascendent-Masculine-Exchange-Boycott, or (F)Feminine-Undermining.

    In other words genetics rule and the fringes cannot compromise leaving the mainstream and mainstream incentives as the optimum and letting the fringes drive demand for a viable solution to coming conflict. This disassociates us further from the fringe and lowers resistance to the spread of the movement.

    However, this occurs at the expense of an increase in the cost and time of distribution. And alters the pitch somewhat to appeal to the mainstream leaving only the far left as an opponent.

    -Curt

    (PS: And y’all thought I was just trolling christians…..)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-19 09:53:00 UTC

  • LET ME HELP YOU: YOU HAVE FAILED. A CHRISTIAN GSRRM EXAMPLE You didn’t make an a

    LET ME HELP YOU: YOU HAVE FAILED. A CHRISTIAN GSRRM EXAMPLE

    You didn’t make an argument. right? There is faith and there is reason, and faith exists to give a discount on reason. It’s not complicated.

    If your generation and your class are still dependent upon faith enough that my work isn’t valuable then that is not uncommon in history. and future generations will have the ability to choose.

    But data is in my favor. The religious are now the same percentage as the atheists. And as always we see movement to the extremes. Either atheist or evangelical with all other churches collapsing.

    Because in modernity we have the luxury of pursuing our cognitive preferences. Because there is no longer a need for ‘compromise communities’.

    Now,lets look at your abrahamic lies to show you how you are a liar, traied by liars, to lie, and why you fail:

    —“People make those arguments all the time, curt.”—

    Which tells us nothing about their truth or falsehood.

    —“Your narcissism prevents you from seeing them, much less reflecting upon your ideas.”—

    Either my ideas are true or false. They have nothing to do with my personality, or my psychology. gravity is gravity even if a madman proclaims it. Reciprocity is reciprocity even if psychopaths proclaims it. The source of a statement has no bearing on it’s truth.

    —“There is no sense in arguing with a man who has to be right at all costs. “—-

    You mean there is no sense arguing faith and psychic benefit against someone who seeks the truth, and will not compromise to make the faithful happy. In other words you are shaming like a woman assuming her affections are wanted. I want the ability for our people to engage in political divorces not your approval or demand for compliance with your trivial emotions.

    —“Enjoy your fb following of fellow spergnerds arguing about faith and falling in to irrelevancy because the vast majority of people are turned off by not only your ideas, but how you communicate them. “—

    Except that over time that’s not what happens, right? we keep growing. We keep growing because truth, the utility of truth, the policies possible under truth, will save our people, and are the only plan our people have. I dont expect you to like me or my ideas. I expect you to follow your self interest and survive – or not, and to die off. Because you have a record of increasing rates of failure in competition with judaism-islamism. YOu fear aristotle like church fathers yet it is aristotle that saved europe not only from islam but from christianity.

    —“You are doing nobody any favors.”–

    I am disciplining wayward children so that they can survive in a world hostile to naivety.

    —“I look forward to seeing the comments about how I was too low IQ to get it lol.”—

    I haven’t noticed that you’re too dim whatsoever. I’ve noticed that you are using the female argument of disapproval, shaming, ridicule, and rallying in order to defend your addiction and lack of agency.

    The right answer is. We must win. I will keep my faith. But we must win for me to keep it.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-18 10:02:00 UTC

  • “…a book”— Lame nonsense That’s like saying you need encyclopedia britannica

    —“…a book”—

    Lame nonsense

    That’s like saying you need encyclopedia britannica instead of wikipedia. P consists of topics just like an encyclopedia. Instead of being in alpha order it’s in dependency order from metaphysics (the grammars) thru group strategy.

    THE SUMMARY (OVERVIEW)

    https://propertarianism.com/basic-concepts/

    – The Overview (argument)

    – The Topic by Topic “Short Courses”

    – The categorical index for topics in the sidebar.

    – The search engine for exploration.

    – The reading list as a bibliography.

    – The glossary of terms.

    There is no “P for Dummies” nor is one possible.

    So consider the current content an IQ test.

    If you can’t, then you can’t, so it won’t matter. πŸ˜‰

    The problem with the book is that it is still two books the first of which is over 800pp.

    So I will publish the tome when it is ready. But if you can’t pass the P IQ test with the existing material – the book isn’t gonna help you.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-17 08:00:00 UTC

  • DO WE POSITIVELY DISAMBIGUATE OR AMBIGUATE IN DEFENSE? —“I think it’s insultin

    DO WE POSITIVELY DISAMBIGUATE OR AMBIGUATE IN DEFENSE?

    —“I think it’s insulting for idealists to be associated with Evola. It’s not primacy of consciousness, it’s not Kant. It’s sword-and-sorcery. People who say that Evola introduced them to philosophy weren’t introduced to it at all; they were just stalled and set up for humiliation if they ever decided to argue with a philosophical opponent. They should read Heidegger instead if they insist on living outside of reality, but even he might prove too profane and earthly for their liking.”—by GΓΆran Dahl

    CURTD: Correct. But this is the problem tho: unless taught the direct road, people must take what road that is easiest to follow given their experience.

    And they always and everywhere move from the emotive to the analytic – slowly for reasons anyone familiar with artificial intelligence and neurology can explain: more neural christmas tree lights go on with emotion until you have enough information to light them without it.

    And there is the rub: do we disambiguate, and suppress conflation between literature (analogy) and thought (philosophy, history) and teach stoicism and the law (which is intuitive). Or do we make a via-positiva claim about philosophy, religion, occult, and maintain conflation and ‘ambiguation’.

    This is the problem with differences between anglo-scandinavian, franco-german continental, and italian peoples We get better intellectuals out of italy in the south, and england in the north, and better engineers, craftsmen, and citizens in germany. But why? Genetically we are all germanic (european) peoples.

    So the general argument is that we must ‘program’ good behavior into people (germany good, france bad) by educating their intuition with emotion, teaching them mindfulness, and teaching them the law. purely out of defense against those who lie.

    Education is just as defensive as it is opportunity generating.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-15 07:24:00 UTC

  • METAPHYSICS: “FITTING” You see, you start with the supply side error of ‘fitting

    METAPHYSICS: “FITTING”

    You see, you start with the supply side error of ‘fitting’ and tell me what the unicorn of metaphysics ‘is’.

    I start with the demand side and ask what problems are you supposedly trying to solve.

    The answer is that there exist only the material with potential to know, the experiential, memory of experience, and the products of our actions with the potential to know them.

    The rest is just fictionalism.

    Why: because the scale of free association is ‘exciting’ just as hallucinogens are exciting, and for the same reasons

    So if you mean you want to engage in experiential fictionalism I understand it as a form of entertainment. But that’s all it is.

    EPISTEMOLOGY

    Experience > Free association > Hypothesis > Theory > Law.

    GRAMMARS

    Deflationary < descriptive < ordinary > narrative > Inflationary > Conflationary

    Don’t confuse ‘Philosophy’ with ‘literature’. Fantasy literature exists in every field. It’s just that we are honest about literary fiction and dishonest about literary fictional-ISM (occult, pseudoscience, idealism, sophism.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-14 08:40:00 UTC