Curt Doolittle

Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • THANKS TO EVERYONE who contributed to the discussion on religion over the past t

    THANKS TO EVERYONE who contributed to the discussion on religion over the past two days. It was about what I expected. Although what I learned was a) that we have some knowledgeable people, b) that my suspicion about the ability to argue using different techniques is very narrow, c) that people are framed by the church more than world history, and cannot understand the west in the broader context. d) that if we do suggest natural law as the basis for european christianity we can provide consistency between the teachings of jesus as a subject of hellenic and roman civilization, and and the present. e) that it is possible to separate jesus as a reformer of his own people from Paul who attacked roman civilization.. f) … lots more. gotta cut… but anyway, Mandatory Natural Law ends judaism and islamism, since any statement violating natural law is an anathema to man, and constitute a political movement, not a religious movement; …. and both jewish law and islamic law violate Natural Law.

    in other words Natural Law Fundamentalism so to speak, like Natural Law Market Fascism, preserves what we desire, but prohibits the feminins strategy parasitism of the jews by fraud, and the masculine parasitism of the islamists by ignorance.

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 14:44:00 UTC

  • THE CONTENT OF RELIGION, AND THE FAILURE OF THE CHURCH Why did the church fail t

    THE CONTENT OF RELIGION, AND THE FAILURE OF THE CHURCH

    Why did the church fail to reform?

    – anti-intellectualism.

    – superstition rather than myth.

    – peasant rather than middle class

    – agrarian rather than industrialism

    – suffering rather than heroism and possibility.

    – Semitic rather than European.

    Why did the church fail to produce a reformer?

    – why no Augustine, or Luther?

    – why was Smith/Hume/Jefferson insufficient?

    – why no accommodation for Darwin, Menger, Maxwell, Durkheim, Nietzsche?

    The answer:

    Too much of a change. The academy took possession away from the church. The academy took funding away from the church. The state took all lands from the church.

    My response:

    Then it might have been possible if not for the world wars and communism. However, the germans were very close. The british traditionalists were very close. The church could have seized the opportunity, or it could have defeated the opposition: marxism. But it did neither. It was LAZY AND INTELLECTUALLY INCOMPETENT.

    As far as I know, all that matters in a religion is:

    (a) a community setting where individual expression prohibited. (signal free environment)

    (b) a very simple set of comprehensible laws (strategy)

    (c) a method of achieving mindfulness, and excuse for it.

    (d) recitation of myths, legends, history, heroes

    (e) application of past wisdom to current issues.

    (f) participatory rituals (praying, singing, moving).

    (g) participatory holidays ( relief – vacation days )

    (h) participatory feasts (special holidays – family)

    (i) participatory festivals (sports, plays, games)

    (j) an institutional means of transference of all of the above between generations. (profession)

    The acts matter much more than the words. The acts produce the experience. The words JUSTIFY it.

    THE CHURCH WAS SO HEAVILY ANTI INTELLECTUAL IT ABANDONED THE PEOPLE TO THE PROFIT SEEKING OF THE ACADEMY, THE PROFIT SEEKING OF THE STATE, THE PROFIT SEEKING OF THE FINANCIAL SECTOR, AND HID AMONG THE DEVELOPING WORLD’S POOR.

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 13:53:00 UTC

  • Have we not transcended? Are we still ignorant, illiterate, poor, lacking knonwl

    Have we not transcended? Are we still ignorant, illiterate, poor, lacking knonwledge, technology and institutions? Do we still require morality by children’s story, rather than by literature, history, law, science, and mathematics?

    Are we admitting we are children and that we are not able to speak and think in the language that the gods have written the universe with?

    if you speak the truth then why must you lie?

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 12:29:00 UTC

  • The judeo christian of the church constitutes a framing: a lie. WHy must you hav

    The judeo christian of the church constitutes a framing: a lie.

    WHy must you have that lie? Can’t you look at history as a greater story than the children’s story of the myths and superstitions? the chidren’s stories for the dim, the ignorant, and the impoverished?

    Why aren’t your own histories superior to those? They are.

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 12:27:00 UTC

  • I can speak the words of natural law in the words of jesus(myths), of augustine(

    I can speak the words of natural law in the words of jesus(myths), of augustine(wisdom), of plato(ideals), and of aristotle(description). WE can obtain meaning from myth, wisdom and ideals, But I will only argue them in the language of truth: Aristotle.

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 12:25:00 UTC

  • Where was Jesus while he was missing and how did he NOT learn of greek wisdom? H

    Where was Jesus while he was missing and how did he NOT learn of greek wisdom? How could he NOT attempt to reform the jews?

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 11:28:00 UTC

  • Why isn’t the correct answer that Jesus read and understood the Greeks and Stoic

    Why isn’t the correct answer that Jesus read and understood the Greeks and Stoics and was bringing natural law to the Jews?

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 11:27:00 UTC

  • SECRET: HERE IS WHAT I’M GETTING AT: THERE IS NOTHING IN CHRISTIANITY THAT IS TR

    SECRET: HERE IS WHAT I’M GETTING AT: THERE IS NOTHING IN CHRISTIANITY THAT IS TRUE BUT THE WORDS OF JESUS, AND THERE IS NOTHING IN THE WORDS OF JESUS THAT IS NOT IN NATURAL LAW.

    SO WHY LIE?

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 11:21:00 UTC

  • We are analyzing religion via comparative religions. You wanna tell me you can h

    We are analyzing religion via comparative religions.

    You wanna tell me you can have this ‘classroom’ in any academy in America? And for free?

    Good luck finding that.

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 10:27:00 UTC

  • WHY DOES ISLAM SELL (TO THE UNDERCLASSES) VIA MEN AS CHRISTIANITY PREVIOUSLY SOL

    WHY DOES ISLAM SELL (TO THE UNDERCLASSES) VIA MEN AS CHRISTIANITY PREVIOUSLY SOLD TO UNDERCLASSES VIA WOMEN?

    Men desire status, confidence, and pride. How are status, confidence, and pride obtained under islam? Under Christianity. Under Aristocracy? How under other social orders?

    Acquisitionism.

    Given your family, family or personal wealth, natural class, natural abilities, your natural worthiness as a mate, your natural worthiness as a partner in production of goods, services, information, and polities, how do you obtain Status, Confidence, and Pride?

    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-13 10:05:00 UTC