As far as I know the IE peoples separated into european and indo-iranian branches, and my understanding via Armstrong is that it was because the eastern peoples ‘left’ (created a diaspora) because they could not compete against the west but they could compete south and east. As far as I know (from the record) The Indo-Iranian religion was polytheistic. As far as I know, zoroaster lived closer to 1000bc (earlier), even if the religion was formalized (like most were) centuries later. As far as I know zoroaster and his work were addressed to the iranian branch, and to no small degree, to intentionally cause conflcit between the iranian and indian branches. As far as I know the indian version of religion is the closest to our EASTERN ancestral religion. But again the western ancestral and the eastern ancestral differed greatly in that in the western, men traded with and could often defeat the gods, where in the eastern version, men were dependent upon or submissive to the gods. The difference is that IE’s disappeared through interbreeding with the peoples of india, the persians (iranians) were boxed in between india and the semites, Although they seem to have preserved most of their genetic independence until the arab conquest. And the west were isolated by the urals, mediterranean, black sea and alps, as were india and the chinese.
Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology
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The IE Peoples and Their Religions
As far as I know the IE peoples separated into european and indo-iranian branches, and my understanding via Armstrong is that it was because the eastern peoples ‘left’ (created a diaspora) because they could not compete against the west but they could compete south and east. As far as I know (from the record) The Indo-Iranian religion was polytheistic. As far as I know, zoroaster lived closer to 1000bc (earlier), even if the religion was formalized (like most were) centuries later. As far as I know zoroaster and his work were addressed to the iranian branch, and to no small degree, to intentionally cause conflcit between the iranian and indian branches. As far as I know the indian version of religion is the closest to our EASTERN ancestral religion. But again the western ancestral and the eastern ancestral differed greatly in that in the western, men traded with and could often defeat the gods, where in the eastern version, men were dependent upon or submissive to the gods. The difference is that IE’s disappeared through interbreeding with the peoples of india, the persians (iranians) were boxed in between india and the semites, Although they seem to have preserved most of their genetic independence until the arab conquest. And the west were isolated by the urals, mediterranean, black sea and alps, as were india and the chinese.
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The Next Reformation of Our Church (Religion)
I can find dozens of liars throughout history, and tens of thousands to rewrite their words, and millions to repeat their words – on any subject. Just as we can find millions of liars today in the postmodern movement, just as we could find millions a few decades ago in the marxist and bolshevik movement. Che was one of the worst people to live in modernity, but his image is used world round as a savior of modernity. Marx caused 100M dead and he is treated as a savior. Mohammed caused 750M deaths at a minimum, destroyed the great civilizations of the ancient world, and is the longest threat to prosperity man ever made, yet he is a prophet, his words memorized, his warfare deified. The christians were instrumental in the destruction of the roman empire, and the church in undermining the aristocracy, and empire, and the church responsible for the conversion and submission, and illiteracy of europeans to the point where without the vikings, and the remilitarization of europe to resist them, they would have been too weak to resist the muslims. And today christians and their postmodern descendants are the advocates of bringing in the Hordes among us. By the time we overthrew the church half of the capital in europe was ‘dead’ (static), feeding the parasitic, corrupt, church and her politics. Today the church works daily to undermine western civilization. What separates evangelicals from the church is that they have half-recovered. The history of the church is of appropriation of credit they did not earn, and avoidance of criticism that they did. We nearly escaped her with 19th century romanticism, yet the catholic, half catholic, and orthodox countries destroyed germany, which was the remaining engine of our traditions. That we need a church or temple is one thing. That charity must be personally performed is another. That mindfulness is necessary for the many is yet another, but the cancer upon mankind that is abrahamism must end forever as the most evil lie ever invented.
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The Next Reformation of Our Church (Religion)
I can find dozens of liars throughout history, and tens of thousands to rewrite their words, and millions to repeat their words – on any subject. Just as we can find millions of liars today in the postmodern movement, just as we could find millions a few decades ago in the marxist and bolshevik movement. Che was one of the worst people to live in modernity, but his image is used world round as a savior of modernity. Marx caused 100M dead and he is treated as a savior. Mohammed caused 750M deaths at a minimum, destroyed the great civilizations of the ancient world, and is the longest threat to prosperity man ever made, yet he is a prophet, his words memorized, his warfare deified. The christians were instrumental in the destruction of the roman empire, and the church in undermining the aristocracy, and empire, and the church responsible for the conversion and submission, and illiteracy of europeans to the point where without the vikings, and the remilitarization of europe to resist them, they would have been too weak to resist the muslims. And today christians and their postmodern descendants are the advocates of bringing in the Hordes among us. By the time we overthrew the church half of the capital in europe was ‘dead’ (static), feeding the parasitic, corrupt, church and her politics. Today the church works daily to undermine western civilization. What separates evangelicals from the church is that they have half-recovered. The history of the church is of appropriation of credit they did not earn, and avoidance of criticism that they did. We nearly escaped her with 19th century romanticism, yet the catholic, half catholic, and orthodox countries destroyed germany, which was the remaining engine of our traditions. That we need a church or temple is one thing. That charity must be personally performed is another. That mindfulness is necessary for the many is yet another, but the cancer upon mankind that is abrahamism must end forever as the most evil lie ever invented.
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“What Is Your Endgame?” (Religion)
—“What is your endgame?”— A Christian Believer
I understand that believers are non rational, and un-persuadable, and over invested in a network of falsehoods, and so believers will not change except to follow an even larger and safer herd. So my objective is to use arguments to search for people in the herd who know that the mythos is false, but want a new herd to join. So I state my arguments and avoid engaging in abrahamic sophisms, and then insult those who make them to deprive them of their attempt to gain confidence and signals from their denials. My endgame is the completion of the transformation of Germanicized christianity to natural law and reciprocity, completely laundered of sophism(abrahamism), superstition, mysticism, magic, falsehoods, and lies. Truth is enough. COMMENTS Daniel Roland Anderson This just turned a light on for me. Germanized Christianity (I’m thinking of Kant trying to put logical legs under “do unto others as you’d have them do unto you” with the categorical imperative) really got pretty close to something. Reciprocity. Natural Law. I see the idea of reciprocity in Kant’s work—to the extent I can understand it. (The importance Kant places on truth telling, no matter the immediate consequence, looks very familiar.) How about Natural Law? Where do you see this principle most strongly in previous work? Curt Doolittle The common (Natural) law. Daniel Roland Anderson If I had to pick, this is my favorite thing. In law school, property class, I loved the series of cases on possession of property starting with Pierson vs. Post and the fox. Constitutionalists got in my head (my dad brought me up on the constitution) and I second guessed my love for the process of discovering the general law by looking at specific case after case and tweaking and modifying the ruling in connection with previous cases. It feels like home. It was my mother who helped me see that it isn’t judicial discretion that is bad. It’s just that you need to give discretion to the right sort of judge. We haven’t managed that. -
“What Is Your Endgame?” (Religion)
—“What is your endgame?”— A Christian Believer
I understand that believers are non rational, and un-persuadable, and over invested in a network of falsehoods, and so believers will not change except to follow an even larger and safer herd. So my objective is to use arguments to search for people in the herd who know that the mythos is false, but want a new herd to join. So I state my arguments and avoid engaging in abrahamic sophisms, and then insult those who make them to deprive them of their attempt to gain confidence and signals from their denials. My endgame is the completion of the transformation of Germanicized christianity to natural law and reciprocity, completely laundered of sophism(abrahamism), superstition, mysticism, magic, falsehoods, and lies. Truth is enough. COMMENTS Daniel Roland Anderson This just turned a light on for me. Germanized Christianity (I’m thinking of Kant trying to put logical legs under “do unto others as you’d have them do unto you” with the categorical imperative) really got pretty close to something. Reciprocity. Natural Law. I see the idea of reciprocity in Kant’s work—to the extent I can understand it. (The importance Kant places on truth telling, no matter the immediate consequence, looks very familiar.) How about Natural Law? Where do you see this principle most strongly in previous work? Curt Doolittle The common (Natural) law. Daniel Roland Anderson If I had to pick, this is my favorite thing. In law school, property class, I loved the series of cases on possession of property starting with Pierson vs. Post and the fox. Constitutionalists got in my head (my dad brought me up on the constitution) and I second guessed my love for the process of discovering the general law by looking at specific case after case and tweaking and modifying the ruling in connection with previous cases. It feels like home. It was my mother who helped me see that it isn’t judicial discretion that is bad. It’s just that you need to give discretion to the right sort of judge. We haven’t managed that. -
The one to kill is zoroaster. After him, abraham (assuming he existed), after hi
The one to kill is zoroaster. After him, abraham (assuming he existed), after him Saul. After him Augustine. After him, Constantine before he ascended the throne. After him Muhammed (probably the most important). After him, Napoleon, thereby preventing the need to unify germany. After him Marx. The only reason to get to hitler is because these people existed.
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-30 10:08:00 UTC
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WHAT IS MY ENDGAME? —“What is your endgame?”— A Christian Believer I underst
WHAT IS MY ENDGAME?
—“What is your endgame?”— A Christian Believer
I understand that believers are non rational, and un-persuadable, and over invested in a network of falsehoods, and so believers will not change except to follow an even larger and safer herd.
So my objective is to use arguments to search for people in the herd who know that the mythos is false, but want a new herd to join.
So I state my arguments and avoid engaging in abrahamic sophisms, and then insult those who make them to deprive them of their attempt to gain confidence and signals from their denials.
My endgame is the completion of the transformation of germanicized christianity to natural law and reciprocity, completely laundered of sophism(abrahamism), superstition, mysticism, magic, falsehoods, and lies.
Truth is enough.
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-30 09:33:00 UTC
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“WE HAVE OVERSTIMULATED IMAGINATION AND UNDER-STIMULATED THANKFULNESS” —“The C
“WE HAVE OVERSTIMULATED IMAGINATION AND UNDER-STIMULATED THANKFULNESS”
—“The Cult of your own ancestors needs to be restored, other deities are less important; we all have overstimulated imagination and understimulated thankfulness.”—Igor Rogov
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-29 20:30:00 UTC
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THE SCIENCE OF RELIGIONS >>1) Will Jesus be successful in saving everyone he int
THE SCIENCE OF RELIGIONS
>>1) Will Jesus be successful in saving everyone he intends to save?
The individual we refer to as jesus might have existed, however almost everything other than his disruption of the temple, and his crucifiction is fiction created by Paul. Paul created Christianity, not Jesus. The reason we know that is that all the ‘jesus stories’ were originally babylonian or a derivative thereof. Just as the old testament is merely plagiarism from the babylonian record.
>>2) Has anyone, or WILL anyone, actually go to hell?
There is no heaven or hell, they are just babylonian fictions that metaphorically assist us in judging one another’s characters, and by character we mean contribution to, or harm to, the polity. At best we can consider heaven and hell the memories of those whose lives you affected, and the record of their actions in response to your display word and deed.
>>3) Therefore
THE OATH OF TRANSCENDENT MAN; A PAGAN, A CHRISTIAN, AN ARYAN, A WARRIOR, A MAN TRANSCENDENT
I am a pagan if 1) I accept the laws of nature as binding on all of existence; and 2) if I treat nature as sacred and to be contemplated, protected and improved; and 3) I treat the world as something to transform closer to an Eden in whatever ways I can before I die; and 4) if I deny the existence of a supreme being with dominion over the physical laws, and treat all gods, demigods, heroes, saints, figures of history, and ancestors as characters with whom I may speak to in private contemplation in the hope of gaining wisdom and synchronicity from having done so. And 5) if I participate with others of my society in repetition of oaths, repetition of myths, repetition of festivals, repetition of holidays, and the perpetuation of all of the above to my offspring. And 6) if I leave open that synchronicity appears to exist now and then, and that it may be possible that there is a scientific explanation for it, other than just humans subject to similar stimuli producing similar intuitions and therefore similar ends.
As far as I know this is all that is required of me to be a Pagan.
I am a christian if I have adopted the teaching of christianity: 1) the eradication of hatred from the human heart. 2) the extension of kinship love to non-kin. 3) the extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment, enserfment, enslavement, death, or war.
As far as I know, this is all that is required of me to be a Christian.
I am an Aryan if 1) I proudly display my excellences so that others seek to achieve or exceed them; 2) I seek competition to constantly test and improve myself so I do not weaken; 3) I swear to speak no insult and demand it; 4) I speak the truth and demand it; 5) I take nothing not paid for and demand it; 6) I grant sovereignty to my kin and demand it; 7) I insure my people regardless of condition, and demand it; and in doing so leave nothing but voluntary markets of cooperation between sovereign men; and to discipline, enserf, enslave, ostracize or kill those who do otherwise; 8) to not show fear or cowardice, abandon my brothers, or retreat, and 9) to die a good death in the service of my kin, my clan, my tribe and my people.
As far as I know, this is all that is required of me to be an Aryan.
I am a warrior in that 1) we will prepare for war so perfectly that none dare enter it against us. 2) Once we go to war, we do so with *joy*, with eagerness, and with passion, and without mercy, without constraint, and without remorse; And 3) before ending war, we shall defeat an enemy completely such that no other dares a condition of our enemy, and the memory of the slaughter lives a hundred generations.
As far as I know, this is all that is required of me to be a Warrior.
As far as I know, if I succeed as a Pagan, as a Christian, as an Aryan, as a Warrior, then I have transcended the animal man, and earned my place among the saints, heroes, demigods, gods, in the memories, histories, and legends of man.
And that is the objective of heroes.
We leave the rest for ordinary men.
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-29 09:46:00 UTC