Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. —“The West’s egalitarianism and loss of nob

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    —“The West’s egalitarianism and loss of noblesse oblige: Atheists amongst the elite will attack the concept of religion on a whim, because they don’t need it, not considering they have a duty to society by virtue of their position, and different people have different needs to function optimally.”—Graham Davies

    my only comment is that once you open up democracy you are forced into the problem of the different needs of the classes. The necessary law of the aristocracy, the fanciful philosophy of the middle, and the supernatural religion of the bottom all must somehow compete – but they cannot be made commensurable.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-29 19:02:58 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. RELIGIOSITY AND COMPUTATIONAL DISCOUNTING (th

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    RELIGIOSITY AND COMPUTATIONAL DISCOUNTING
    (the economics of spirituality)

    I think where I stand today, is that I have almost fully converted to where i see the computational needs of the brain and the need to acquire certain resources (of all kinds), as causing emotional responses and wants. So when I study world religions it’s this computational savings I look for, and I try to understand what computational discount they’re ‘buying’ with it and what their ‘paying for it’ with external consequences of a large number of people doing so.

    So I don’t any longer hold (believe) that we are trying to serve emotions, but that emotions inform us as to the demands of our computational necessities.

    And so this allows me to extract my intuitions from the process of religions, because those religions were developed to ‘fool’ those intuitions by cheap means of training.

    So just as using propertarian language has helped me disassemble social science, and acquisitionism has helped me disassemble psychology, computational demands have helped me disassemble what we call spirituality. The ceremony of religion is just satisfying our need for computational discounts by running with the pack for a while, in some kind of ritual. The dogma of religion is discounting our reason. The homogeneity of religious provides discounting on cooperation.

    To some degree these computational efficiencies serve the same purpose as do money and prices: they create discounts from the production of commensurability, and incentive to pursue it.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-29 18:11:06 UTC

  • Supernatural religions produce trust in a proxy, and by conformity predictabilit

    Supernatural religions produce trust in a proxy, and by conformity predictability in one another. This is a dramatic cost reduction over the need to learn about one another sufficiently to try trust.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-29 15:46:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1023595668240248833

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. Supernatural religions produce trust in a pro

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    Supernatural religions produce trust in a proxy, and by conformity predictability in one another. This is a dramatic cost reduction over the need to learn about one another sufficiently to try trust.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-29 15:46:27 UTC

  • RELIGIOSITY AND COMPUTATIONAL DISCOUNTING (the economics of spirituality) I thin

    RELIGIOSITY AND COMPUTATIONAL DISCOUNTING

    (the economics of spirituality)

    I think where I stand today, is that I have almost fully converted to where i see the computational needs of the brain and the need to acquire certain resources (of all kinds), as causing emotional responses and wants. So when I study world religions it’s this computational savings I look for, and I try to understand what computational discount they’re ‘buying’ with it and what their ‘paying for it’ with external consequences of a large number of people doing so.

    So I don’t any longer hold (believe) that we are trying to serve emotions, but that emotions inform us as to the demands of our computational necessities.

    And so this allows me to extract my intuitions from the process of religions, because those religions were developed to ‘fool’ those intuitions by cheap means of training.

    So just as using propertarian language has helped me disassemble social science, and acquisitionism has helped me disassemble psychology, computational demands have helped me disassemble what we call spirituality. The ceremony of religion is just satisfying our need for computational discounts by running with the pack for a while, in some kind of ritual. The dogma of religion is discounting our reason. The homogeneity of religious provides discounting on cooperation.

    To some degree these computational efficiencies serve the same purpose as do money and prices: they create discounts from the production of commensurability, and incentive to pursue it.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-29 14:11:00 UTC

  • Supernatural religions produce trust in a proxy, and by conformity predictabilit

    Supernatural religions produce trust in a proxy, and by conformity predictability in one another. This is a dramatic cost reduction over the need to learn about one another sufficiently to try trust.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-29 11:46:00 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. THE WEST’S INCREDIBLY OPTIMISTIC RESPONSE TO

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    THE WEST’S INCREDIBLY OPTIMISTIC RESPONSE TO SUFFERING
    by Tim Spillane

    (Note: the trials of achilles)

    I came across a discussion by Joseph Campbell on the differences between the Western and Levantine interpretations of suffering- it’s a bit long but worth posting:

    —“[In the Hellenic world] God is immanent throughout nature… science, therefore, deals with the material body of which God is the living spirit… God, the informing spirit of the world, is rational and absolutely good. Nothing, therefore, can occur that is not- in the frame of the totality- absolutely good. The doctrine… was reaffirmed by Nietzsche… where the word ‘good’ is read not as ‘comfortable’ but as ‘excellent,’ and a call is issued to each to love his fate: ‘amor fati’. Spengler also represents this view in his motto, adopted from Seneca… ‘The fates guide him who will, him who won’t they drag.’ It is a view derived rather from courage and joy than from rational demonstration: from a life of zeal and affirmation, beyond any kind of calculation. It leaves the Buddhist sentiment of compassion far behind; for compassion contemplates suffering. And Job’s problem also is left behind; for that too rests upon the recognition of suffering. In Seneca’s words: ‘Not what you bear but how you bear it is what counts.’ And again: ‘Within the world there can be no exile, for nothing within the world is alien to man.’

    “’Great is God,’ declared the lame slave Epictetus: ‘This is the rod of Hermes: touch what you will with it… and it becomes gold. Nay, but bring what you will and I will transmute it to Good. Bring sickness, bring death, bring poverty and reproach, bring trial for life- all these things through the rod of Hermes shall be turned to profit… Thus should we ever have sung: yea and this, the grandest and divinest hymn of all- Great is God, for that he has given us a mind to apprehend these things, and duly to use them!’”

    This is the incredibly optimistic response to suffering developed natively in the West, and it couldn’t be further from developments among the Abrahamics. Campbell goes on, “The ideal of indifference to pain and pleasure, gain and loss, in the performance of one’s life task, which is of the essence of this stoic order, suggests the Indian ideal of Karma Yoga described in the Bhagavad Gita… However, the Indian life task is imposed upon each by his class statues, whereas the Greco-Roman task is that recognized and imposed on each by his own reason: for God here is Intelligence, Knowledge, and Right Reason. Furthermore, the condition of ‘nirvana,’ disengagement in trance rapture, which is the ultimate goal of Indian yoga, is entirely different from the Greek ideal of ‘ataraxia,’ the rational mind undisturbed by pleasure and pain. Yet, between the two views there is much to be compared, and particularly their grounding in… ‘pantheism,’ which is fundamental… to India… and to the Classical world: against which the biblical view, whether in Jewish, Christian, or Islamic thought, stands in unrelenting, even belligerent, argument.

    “Within a world that is itself divine… there is an epiphany of divinity in all sight, all thought, and all deeds, which- for those who recognize it- is a beginning and end in itself… Whereas within a world that is not itself divine, but whose creator is apart [as in the Abrahamic faiths]… one lives not simply to play the part well that is in itself the end, like the grapevine producing grapes, but, as Christ has said, ‘so that the Father may reward.’ The goal is not here and now, but somewhere else.” ––Occidental Mythology


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-28 22:16:16 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. —“Since Propertarianism recovers and transf

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    —“Since Propertarianism recovers and transfigures the founding myths of Indo-European culture, when it comes to specifying its particular tenets such features as the following might be listed: an eminently aristocratic conception of the human individual; the importance of honour (‘shame’ rather than ‘sin’); a heroic attitude towards life’s challenges; the exaltation and sacralisation of the world, beauty, the body, strength, and health; the rejection of any ‘worlds beyond’; and the inseparability of morality and aesthetics.

    The highest value for an Aryan ethics undoubtedly lies not in a form of ‘justice’ whose purpose is essentially interpreted as flattening the social order in the name of equality, but in all that may allow man to surpass himself. Since to consider the implications of life’s basic framework as unjust would be palpably absurd, such classic antitheses as noble vs. base, courageous vs. cowardly, honourable vs. dishonourable, beautiful vs. deformed, sick vs. healthy come to replace the antitheses operative in a morality based on the concept of sin: good vs. evil, humble vs. vainglorious, submissive vs. proud, weak vs. arrogant, modest vs. boastful.”— Daniel Gurpide

    (genius)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-26 19:06:17 UTC

  • Quotes of the day from an Arabic speaking friend: –“I wasn’t really terrified o

    Quotes of the day from an Arabic speaking friend:

    –“I wasn’t really terrified of ISIS’s speeches until I read them in English.”—

    I could do a podcast on what that means. English is… clear. Because it is a legalistic and scientific language. So the poetic translates very differently.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-25 12:52:00 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. THE END OF SUFFERING I”m ok with ‘Striving’,

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    THE END OF SUFFERING
    I”m ok with ‘Striving’, and even ‘Struggling’ but this abrahamic drivel of ‘Suffering’ has to be extirpated from western civilization if not from humanity as a whole. Suffering is an interpretation of failure. Struggling recognizes the the cost. Striving recognizes the success. If we have suffering that means there are those who are unable. And if they are unable we have either let the unable breed, or failed the able. Suffering is an admission of failure.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-24 21:29:19 UTC