Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • RT @bierlingm: @curtdoolittle Or in other words, a grown-up’s relationship to Go

    RT @bierlingm: @curtdoolittle Or in other words, a grown-up’s relationship to God.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-23 13:05:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716440750437568591

  • “Q: Curt: You posted that arguments favoring a typical God are quite possible..I

    –“Q: Curt: You posted that arguments favoring a typical God are quite possible..Interested to know more..”—

    There are four surviving arguments across the spectrum that posit the possibility of a god. They are not all satisfactory to the devoted. But just as we have learned more about the universe changing our perception of it’s simplicity, we have also learned more about what possibilities exist for a god to ‘exist’ in one way or another. The most obvious is that the universe and god are one (God of the universe), the other three require explaining: god in the universe, god of man, god by man.

    My personal issue with this discusion is the human arrogance that we can or must know how a god exists so that we can justify our mythologies and scriptures. Rather than observe the universe god gave us and ‘read his words written in its laws’. For example, while it’s difficult to separate what jesus said from what others said about him, what he said, was both quite simple, and the solution to the hard problem of cooperation at scale (the prisoner’s dilemma problem of social science.).

    I don’t have any problem with “I don’t know”. And that’s because I undersetand that the natural law is what not to do, and the example of jesus of nazareth is what to do. As far as I know this is the science – the truth we can testify to – of the laws of the universe applied to human cooperation. And so I have a problem with human religious arrogance in presuming that there are any answers to the will of god other than the natural law and christian love.

    That’s my theological mode so to speak. People often presume that I am an atheist (false) or that I cannot discuss theology (false) as well as I can an other subject that requires a test of truth.

    I just am not arrogant enough to pretend I know more than I can testify to – and I an testify to the natural law and christian love, and know I testify to the science, which, without reservation, I testify is the will, the hand, and the word of any god that exists.

    Even more so if no god exists, other than in the mind of man, then these are the laws of the universe anyway.

    The end result is we know the laws of what not to do and what to do. And we need not claim god exists, or we know his will by some other measure than the evidence we have before us that is not the work of man – and man’s tendency to ‘make it up’.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-23 12:48:44 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716436492858372097

  • I want to note that I do not like this book or anything else that tries to confl

    I want to note that I do not like this book or anything else that tries to conflate two things that are different.

    In my work we explain the origins of religion and that like natural selection it does assist in the organization of groups.

    But that’s true of philosophy, sciencde, accounting, or literacy. It’ also true of group evolutionary strategies. Which is what I tend to work on.

    Reply addressees: @f_quiver


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-22 21:41:27 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716208166545805312

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716200409105350960

  • all that changed was giving the ‘little people’ a means of achieving virtue by d

    all that changed was giving the ‘little people’ a means of achieving virtue by doing no wrong and caring for one another, despite having no ability, skill, land, wealth, military prowess, or political power – as a ‘slave revolt’ against the manipulative, the wealthy, and the aristocracy. In other words, Jesus taught them to rebel against the powerful by effectiely behaving in away that the wealthy wanted, and not allowing the wealthy and powerful to divide them.

    Reply addressees: @taiwtaiwb8 @VinnytheCrow


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-21 17:03:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715775870214832129

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  • “a camel would sooner fit through the eye of a needle than a rich man make it to

    —“a camel would sooner fit through the eye of a needle than a rich man make it to heaven/kingdom of god.”–

    (a) moneychangers
    (b) wealthy merchants
    (c) nobility

    Why? they (really) believed the common people were just another form of domesticated animal. And if you knew much about their behavior, you’d understand their position.

    Jesus was trying to change the behavior of the common people so that it was compatible with european aristocratic civilization and the wealth that civilization brought with it through peace, order, and law.

    Jesus’ teachings are as good as those of buddha or socrates. Churchianity is every bit as ridicuoous as the other abrahamic religions. But if that’s what it takes to get the message across to the peasants women and slaves, (and children) then that’s what it takes.

    Reply addressees: @taiwtaiwb8 @VinnytheCrow


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-21 14:45:02 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715740986809159680

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715518817399402524

  • I understand you in Islam are your dark ages, enduring the change now that we di

    I understand you in Islam are your dark ages, enduring the change now that we did in the middle ages. And we had time to do it slowly and for you it is a pressure you are forced to do quickly, causing greater strife.

    However, once muslims (the Turks) closed the ports of byzantium and forced us to invent the age of sail, we destroyed the only reason for your wealth, which was overland trade between the continents. We could have asily conquered all of islam in the Crusades, In the past century, and today. But we do not. In part becuase the population has no market value.

    Our natural religion is nature worship, ancestor worship, stoicism-epicureanism(the hellenic greek way) the civil society, and the military, because we are an aristocratic military civilization. Christianity like islam is the religion of a slave(underclass) revolt. It is dying because it must die. It had a chance in the 1800s to reform and claim ‘victory’ by continued transformation to Aristotle-Aquinans Natural Law (what I work on). But they failed. Not enough of western people can believe superstitious nonsense.

    Islam spreads by violence (africa, india), emigration (europe), fertility, and taxation of non-muslims in low IQ populations. It allows the individual to abandon competitiveness.

    Christian Africa is resisting islam. China is purging it already. Inda will this century. It’s very likely that the west will do so AGAIN this century as it has in the past. And current events are telling our people islam is incompatible with civilization. Islam must reform or be walled in on all sides.

    Reply addressees: @AlMuwahid_1 @Will_of_Europa @RashidaTlaib @POTUS


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-18 11:16:45 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714601407238561792

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714584822939787564

  • THE DECADENCE OF WEST VS MIDDLE EAST Kashmiri Salafi, I understand. 1. Though, w

    THE DECADENCE OF WEST VS MIDDLE EAST
    Kashmiri Salafi, I understand.

    1. Though, we have invented over 98% of everything in history. (yes really, see Human Accomplishment by Murray). You can mention a few. We cannot mention the many.

    2. We went through our religious…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-18 11:04:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714598295610310877

    Reply addressees: @AlMuwahid_1 @Will_of_Europa @RashidaTlaib @POTUS

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714583471065293178

  • THE DECADENCE OF WEST VS MIDDLE EAST Kashmiri Salafi, I understand. 1. Though, w

    THE DECADENCE OF WEST VS MIDDLE EAST
    Kashmiri Salafi, I understand.

    1. Though, we have invented over 98% of everything in history. (yes really, see Human Accomplishment by Murray). You can mention a few. We cannot mention the many.

    2. We went through our religious modernization. You havent. And you may not be able to. You are just ‘behind’. But your population distribution (iq) is extremely problematic, and the authoritarian religion may be all that is possible for the majority of your population. This means Israelis will vastly out perform Arabs even more so than they do now. In Israel Ashkenazi IQ 103-105 with SD of 17, Mizrahi IQ 88-90, and ultra-Orthodox IQ 84. The Arab population is 83/84 throughout the middle east.

    3. Out of Wedlock Births (US)
    … Whites: 21.9% IQ 103, 16% eventually single motherhood.
    … Hispanics: 41.6%, IQ 94
    … American Indians: 59.3%, IQ 86
    … Non-Hispanic blacks: 69.3%, IQ 91 (about 20% white)
    So, among whites (at 21%) this number isn’t quite as severe, even if it’s increasing due to economics. The underlying problem is that married women are not having sufficient children thereby inflating the percentage of white out of wedlock births.

    Reason: There is a disutility of marriage for women capable of economic independence.
    In Norway, people eventually get married, but they are less concerned of the ‘formality’ than living together.
    Latin america is returning to matrilineal households.
    In other words marriage may be what people do when they are poor.

    4. We are going through the introduction of women into economcs and politics at the same time we are suffering from jewish-marxist sequence of sedition (colonization). The perversions are a part of this sedition. This means for the second time we are being culturally colonized by the Jews (christianity -> marxist sequence). Just as Europe is being colonized by Islam again. Jews and Progressives have largely succeeded through pushing immigration undermining our democratic systems. This is a disaster. But we will recover.
    FWIW: it’s true that it’s a meme in the west that ‘islam is right about women’. The difference is that we will overcome it … eventually. However, it is not clear that the two parent family will survive among the poor. Becuase it’s not clear it’s that useful. despite that childrn from two parent households outperform those from single parent dramatically. And that single motherhood amplifies mental illness and poverty.

    We are both dealing with decadence. You are highly sensitive to sexuality, family, and are, consequently, are low trust people. We are highly sensitive to liberty, education, achievement, and economics, because we are high trust people. The difference between us is trust and trustworthiness, and much of that is because of the vast IQ differences of our populations as much as our traditions.

    Time and evolution will do their work on both of us.

    Cheers


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-18 11:04:23 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714598295379517440

  • Empathy like christianty which seeks to extend the empathy of the family (kin) t

    Empathy like christianty which seeks to extend the empathy of the family (kin) to kith and non-kin, is necessary at the interpersonal level, but l like socialism marxism and managed economies, is impossible because it’s incalculable beucase averages arent averagable. As such markets and eventually prices are the only lmeans of coordinating people at scale.
    The problem witth the 20th is the marxist-progressive magical thinking (feminine) that scarcity had come to and end; that behaviors was what they wished rather than what is demonstrated (selfishness); and that natural selection by race, ethnicity,class, and sex is inescapable without the catastrophic consequence we see every time it’s evaded.

    In this sense, arisotcracy was ethical and moral because it required responsibility. The problem for women, slaves, and the underclasses is that they could not or would not bear responsibility for the commons. Christianitygave them a means of obtaininstatus (a slae revolt) by doing no harm rather than contributing to the commons by economics, participation in political costs, and defense.

    So despite the (horrors) of abrahamic religion – all three of them – we eventually progressed from aristotle to aquinas and the scholastics and discovrd natural law was just european traditional law, and that we need training in both the rational male (stoicism), and the mpathic female (self improvement, chrsitianity)

    Reply addressees: @Real_SF @JohnJayDale


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-16 17:22:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1713968625621549056

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  • The origin of religion is the need for mindfulness: the suppression of neurotici

    The origin of religion is the need for mindfulness: the suppression of neuroticism (worry, anxiety, fear, panic), as we, as social animals, are incdreasingly alienated by the increase in population, division of labor, and knowledge of our own irrelevance, and increasing absence of insurance by family, clan, and tribe. Religions evolved to produce mindfulness and insulate us from the uncertainty that increases as the uncertainty of the tribe’s understanding of the external world, is replaced by one’s own uncertainty of one’s safety and security in the internal (social) world.

    Reply addressees: @whatifalthist


    Source date (UTC): 2023-10-16 15:41:07 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1713943160110333952

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