Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • UN-IDENTICAL BUT COMPATIBLE: RELIGION AND NATURAL LAW by Martin Štěpán If your f

    UN-IDENTICAL BUT COMPATIBLE: RELIGION AND NATURAL LAW

    by Martin Štěpán

    If your faith helps you behave according to natural law, whether your pantheon is Zeus/Jupiter and his family or Odin/Wodan and the Æsir or the Trinity, Mary and the saints, I will absolutely support it.

    But I’m unable to believe it even if I wanted to. Those of us significantly higher in systematizing than empathizing hardly ever can. But I can believe in natural law in itself because I see evidence of it all around me. That’s what I attribute all the beauty of creation to.

    And we both agree that our actions in this life will have consequences in the next. For believers, it might be the afterlife or reincarnation, for me, it will be the lives of my descendants, whereas I would consider each of my children half myself.

    Whichever you believe, or even if you believe neither, rule of law will incentivize the same behavior even without belief by ensuring that breaking the law won’t have consequences only in the next life but also in this one.

    Even the most extreme nihilists believe in pain. And it is the only way we can prevent ourselves from being the cause our end times and push them to the physical limits of our Universe.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-13 10:34:00 UTC

  • THE INQUISITION, THE CHURCH, IN CONTEXT. The purpose of the inquisition was: …

    THE INQUISITION, THE CHURCH, IN CONTEXT.

    The purpose of the inquisition was:

    … 1) to suppress factions (heresy) that would have weakened the church’s income (they were crooks), their political power, and the church’s ambition to take over as the central government of Europe

    … 2) to standardize punishment given the wide variety of punishments coming out of various localities.

    … 3) identify and prosecute muslims and jews that had pretended to convert but not,

    … 4) and finally it evolved serve as a bludgeon to prosecute enemies during the reformation – and we see this in the witch trials which were the end process of that process combined with pre-christian heathen rituals.

    We should note that the reason the french government was so bloodily overthrown was the same reason for the protestant reformation, which was the same reason for the Cathar / Albigensian crusade arose. The corruption because of the church’s attempt to imitate Byzantium, and Byzantium’s attempt to imitate the empires of the pre-muslim world: rule of ignorant illiterate people by superstition, instead of the western model of patriarchal, continuous domestication of man from slave, to freeman, to citizen, to senate.

    The church was at a level of corruption similar to that of late french monarchy, and what we see in present Washington.

    There is little difference today between Washington DC, Versailles, The church in France, and the church in Italy (where it did succeed in rule somewhat).

    My read of the inquisition is a protestant propaganda campaign, and a more modern atheist campaign. In effect the church tried for many centuries to rule Europe as it did Byzantium and it failed. It failed and the many sovereign states succeeded. Because a monopoly calcifies and feeds corruption and a market competes and defeats corruption.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 19:46:00 UTC

  • JOHN MARK EXPLAINS MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY (core)(important) To John’s Thoug

    JOHN MARK EXPLAINS MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY

    (core)(important)

    To John’s Thoughts, I’ll add this:

    1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.

    2. A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.

    2. RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.

    3. RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)

    4. MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.

    5. MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.

    THE METHOD TO THE APPARENT MADNESS

    There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.

    – CurtUpdated Oct 12, 2019, 11:12 AM


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 11:12:00 UTC

  • MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY (core)(important) To John’s explanation, I’ll add th

    MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY

    (core)(important)

    To John’s explanation, I’ll add this:

    1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.

    2. A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.

    2. RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.

    3. RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)

    4. MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.

    5. MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.

    There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.

    – Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 11:12:00 UTC

  • (one “casts” a net, or a fishing line. One is cast out of Eden.)

    (one “casts” a net, or a fishing line. One is cast out of Eden.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-11 14:10:55 UTC

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  • AND YOU WILL KNOW GOOD AND EVIL by Predmetsky Rosenborg Early Gnostic texts port

    AND YOU WILL KNOW GOOD AND EVIL
    by Predmetsky Rosenborg

    Early Gnostic texts portray the serpent and Eve (sometimes almost conflating them) as positive messengers of truth and God as evil. In… https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=481996472397248&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-10 21:35:39 UTC

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  • ” Blasphemy is a tool for silencing dissidents, truthful speech otherwise uncoun

    —” Blasphemy is a tool for silencing dissidents, truthful speech otherwise uncounterable.”—Christopher Kilgore


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-10 17:59:00 UTC

  • AND YOU WILL KNOW GOOD AND EVIL by Predmetsky Rosenborg Early Gnostic texts port

    AND YOU WILL KNOW GOOD AND EVIL

    by Predmetsky Rosenborg

    Early Gnostic texts portray the serpent and Eve (sometimes almost conflating them) as positive messengers of truth and God as evil. In the case of Marcion, at least, it was the Old Testament God who was evil.

    What’s interesting is that the New Testament portrays Satan as a liar and the father of lies, but in the text of Genesis, God seems to acknowledge that Satan was telling the truth after all.

    “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil” (Gen. 3:5)

    “Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”(Gen. 3:22).


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-10 17:35:00 UTC

  • CHRISTIANITY WAS A GAMBLE. by Daniel Jordan Christianity was a gamble. Like all

    CHRISTIANITY WAS A GAMBLE.
    by Daniel Jordan

    Christianity was a gamble. Like all things ironically we can judge them by their results (by their fruits).

    The good that we see is largely… https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=481652429098319&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-10 10:52:52 UTC

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  • CHRISTIANITY WAS A GAMBLE. by Daniel Jordan Christianity was a gamble. Like all

    CHRISTIANITY WAS A GAMBLE.

    by Daniel Jordan

    Christianity was a gamble. Like all things ironically we can judge them by their results (by their fruits).

    The good that we see is largely confirmation bias. The harm is in the category of unknown for most people due to chaos of measurement.

    But for those committed to truth and logic it’s hard not to see the sophistry as a major step back from the path Aristotle and Pythagoras were on.

    The group strategy as it turns out is probably more a biological strategy of high trust peoples evolving over time. Why do we label it as Christian when we have empirical evidence of optimum group strategies from Rome and Greece?


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-10 06:52:00 UTC