Curt Doolittle

Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • “It would be cool to watch you debate theologians.”

    —“It would also be cool to watch you debate theologians. Not pansy ones either but the few who are also high level scientists.”— A Friend

    [I]t‘s a very simple argument: What is a theologian claiming: Good and wisdom, or True and demonstrable? What can they testify to? How can they demonstrate it? How can they warranty it? What is their incentive? What are the costs if they lie? Why is the world of science good for man, and the world of religion devolutionary for man? Why is science of man good and the actions of god evil? Why did christians jews and muslims create a dark age? Why are the churches full of our least competent people? Why did the churches fail to reform? Why did Europe abandon christianity? Why did the evangelical movement succeed and why are Americans leaving the church and dividing half secular and half evangelical? What should the church have done when theology was continuously defeated by science and proven false? Why did the church resist literacy of the people. Why did the church resist the printing of the bible in the people’s language? Why did the monastic orders arise if not in response tot he corruption of the church? Why did the church need the vikings to fight the crusades? Was christianity adopted or was it enforced in the past as islam is still enforced today? Did the christians destroy the ancient world, it’s monuments, it’s arts and letters, its academies, its accumulated knowledge, and instead of restoring roman order, aristocracy, literacy, and greek knowledge, drag Europe and the pagan peoples into dark ages? Why is the abrahamic method of deceit used by jews, christians and muslims used again by marxists, postmodernists, and feminist to repeat the same destruction of the old world to destroy the new – this time with false promise of economic and political reward instead of life after death and political reward? Why do theologians use the same arguments as the marxists, postmodernists, and feminists who destroy this world. I have never found a theological argument I cannot defeat. We know too much now. Hence (a) there currently are, and have been, many gods. (b) all gods exist as information, (c) this information exists in the minds of man, (d) this information influences individual and group behavior (e) this behavior is often good, but vulnerable to conquest – which was the purpose of the church. (f) but as a consequence it produces an addiction response when threatened, and is defended by the abrahamic method of deceit rather than just the simple statement “I have faith that if I live my life by jesus’ teachings that my life, the life of those around me, the life of my polity, and of mankind, in this world, and in the next if there is one, will be better than if I did not.” If you must argue your faith. you have none. Faith needs no argument. That is what it means to have faith.

  • Why Christianity (Religion) Works

    Why Christianity (Religion) Works https://propertarianism.com/2020/02/25/why-christianity-religion-works/

    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-25 20:39:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1232404879680864256

  • Why Christianity (Religion) Works

    [A]n obvious truth I don’t like: Europeans are not only the youngest race (~10k ybp), and more neotenous than other races – except east asians who are more neotenous than we are – but our neoteny comes at the cost of greater emotional instability – which explains european women. We are in a middle range and east asians are off the neotenous cliff. And what does this mean? Neoteny has interesting consequences: not enough and you mature too early for agency except late in life and prevent lifelong learning. If you have enough you develop agency later and lifelong ability to learn, and too much you develop agency early at the cost of life long learning ability. (I might be one of the first people to discuss this, I’m not sure, but it’s obvious in the data.) We could test IQ, Conscientiousness, and Emotional Stability and then democracy might work. Or we could just restore property owning, married, european males and females employing any number of non-family members – which is demonstrated evidence of intelligence, conscientiousness and emotional stability rather than test evidence. And then a house of women and a house of men to negotiate differences between genders. The chinese used the former, for access to bureaucracy. I recommend the latter because we use markets for production. Evidence is evidence. So what’s my point? My point is that christianity is more necessary for europeans to stabilize the emotions than is obvious from our average intelligence. We tnd to link the two but that’s not really it. That’s why while there is a relationship between religiosity and intelligence, the christian ethic remains constant across the population. I also understand that for those of us who are more pagan, we respect christians out of LOYALTY, like we respect the flag out of LOYALTY and our ancestors out of loyalty.As such I am loyal to my christian brothers, and observant out of loyalty. Even if my god is far closer to Thor-Tyr-Zeus, and my prophets are lawgivers: Odin and Aristotle.The solution is to request loyalty in exchange not that we seek to defeat the gods of dominance and submission to which the opposite cannot tolerate thanks (debt).

  • Why Christianity (Religion) Works

    [A]n obvious truth I don’t like: Europeans are not only the youngest race (~10k ybp), and more neotenous than other races – except east asians who are more neotenous than we are – but our neoteny comes at the cost of greater emotional instability – which explains european women. We are in a middle range and east asians are off the neotenous cliff. And what does this mean? Neoteny has interesting consequences: not enough and you mature too early for agency except late in life and prevent lifelong learning. If you have enough you develop agency later and lifelong ability to learn, and too much you develop agency early at the cost of life long learning ability. (I might be one of the first people to discuss this, I’m not sure, but it’s obvious in the data.) We could test IQ, Conscientiousness, and Emotional Stability and then democracy might work. Or we could just restore property owning, married, european males and females employing any number of non-family members – which is demonstrated evidence of intelligence, conscientiousness and emotional stability rather than test evidence. And then a house of women and a house of men to negotiate differences between genders. The chinese used the former, for access to bureaucracy. I recommend the latter because we use markets for production. Evidence is evidence. So what’s my point? My point is that christianity is more necessary for europeans to stabilize the emotions than is obvious from our average intelligence. We tnd to link the two but that’s not really it. That’s why while there is a relationship between religiosity and intelligence, the christian ethic remains constant across the population. I also understand that for those of us who are more pagan, we respect christians out of LOYALTY, like we respect the flag out of LOYALTY and our ancestors out of loyalty.As such I am loyal to my christian brothers, and observant out of loyalty. Even if my god is far closer to Thor-Tyr-Zeus, and my prophets are lawgivers: Odin and Aristotle.The solution is to request loyalty in exchange not that we seek to defeat the gods of dominance and submission to which the opposite cannot tolerate thanks (debt).

  • Why Request Exchange of Tribal Loyalty Between European Religious Factions?

    Why Request Exchange of Tribal Loyalty Between European Religious Factions? https://propertarianism.com/2020/02/25/why-request-exchange-of-tribal-loyalty-between-european-religious-factions/

    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-25 20:29:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1232402207414177792

  • Why Request Exchange of Tribal Loyalty Between European Religious Factions?

    (core) (religion)

    —“Upon what foundation then did the progenitors of civilisation, Greece then Rome, build itself?”—

    [W]e evolve a means of production, and a means of military competition under that means of production, an organization to manage both, and a narrative to justify both, so that we can reduce the cost and opportunity for conflict in order to maintain those strategies. Every civilization’s strategy is fairly easy to express in those terms. European civilization in mediterranean, continental, north sea, and Atlantic eras continue the aristocratic egalitarian tripartite trifunctional organization, and the old military strategy, old law (legal), old myths (social), philosophical, and theological (political) varying little other than the replacement of the ancient warrior-hunter-farmer heroic religion with the medieval farmer-peasant submissive religion of christianity. But given tripartism and trifunctionalism the law and the military remains constant and the church rise and fell. Today the new church is again semitic, with islam, judaism, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and denialism, in competition with our traditional masculine hierarchical markets and law.

    —“Are not their successes constituted of the virtues they upheld?”–

    Virtues are excuses for the group competitive strategy we rarely if ever know. Values persist because they persist the competitive strategy. values can be undermined. Judiasm, christianity, marxism, postmodernism, and feminism sought to undermine european values and succeeded because women are vulnerable to the false promise and men are vulnerable to satisfying the demands of women unless in continuous competition with other males. Our natural ancestral religion upon which our civilization is founded is one of chaotic gods we compete, cooperate, and trade with – not one we are submissive to. These gods of warriors, whether the greek, roman, germanic pantheons. The church sought to supplant them with submissive gods of slaves who were docile in their fear and ignorance – and who the church could extract revenue from by rent seeking. Submission to gods so that one is devoid of responsibility is a christian innovation, achieving its zenith in islam. This is why it is seductive. Devotion to gods so that one is free of status pressure is not a christian innovation. It is even more seductive. Submission to scripture so that one is free of continuous calculation for which one may fail or be subject to blame is semitic innovation. It is seductive as well. These seductions are successful and they are the opposite of the aryan demand for non submission and non-alienation of rights and responsibilities, including pursuit of status, achievement, and innovative reason. The church failed the aristocracy succeeded, and we have not yet found a means of accommodating christianity in its decline, while producing a non-false religion. We are in a time of transition. Either the second dark age of the jews will succeed, the second dark age of the muslims, or we will discover a means of combining our three religions chistian(feminine), heathen-nature(familial), pagan-hero(masculine), and aristotelian(judicial), or at least exchanging loyalty between the three, so that we are not subject to a second semitic dark age. So we are still and will always be a triparite people: Scientific and Legal and heroic (agency), Philosophical and practical for the able, theological and submissive for the less able or more sensitive to conflict and social pressure (or the dysfunctional who confuse their spiritual accommodation of reality with reality itself.

    —“What Christianity was there here?”–

    What “here” are you referring to?

    —“When you come to Christians asking not the renunciation of their faith but merely loyalty, remember that this is all the Romans first asked of the Christians too.”—

    Our ancestors came to jews. Who we were too tolerant of, just as we are too tolerant of islamists, jews, marxists, postmodernists, feminists and science denialists. And because of our tolerance the jews used false promise, to bait our people into hazard, causing a dark age of ignorance and poverty and disease and suffering only aristotelian thought reversed, and ended the centuries of corruption by the church. Corruption not seen by americans until the prosecution of the deviancy of catholic churches, because protestants have forgotten the corruption of the church prior to the reformation, and the personalization of the relationship between the individual and god first, and the individual and jesus second – due largely to american evangelical protestants.

    —“Remember, it wasn’t the strange and foreign beliefs of the Christians that first caught the attention of the Romans, but rather their abstention from community.”—

    It was the use of christianity to undermine greco roman civlization just as islam, judaism, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and their science denialism is used to undermine european civilzation for the past century and a half. Sol invictus was the migration of roman religion from zeus-jupiter. Mithras was the migration of the persian version of Mithra – the perfect man. Christianity was invented by using the victim-narrative and the promise of life after death, in stead of the Zeus-Sol-Mithra character we should aspire to be, and the jesus narrative invented so that it could replace the Epic Cycle (Homer) which had conquered and was about to erase the semitic world. Judaism, christianity, ad islam were invented by the poor ignorant desert peasantry as a means of using the female group strategy of undermining by gossip, to overthrow the invention of markets, law, reason, merit, and transcendence of man into gods. And I am, like my predecessors, trying once again to prevent another semitic dark age – by accommodating christians. Christians who have not yet converted christianity into a hearth religion. But are very close to having done so. If not for the invasion by jews, muslims, and the underclasses – because of christian tolerance – we would have had the time for christianity to evolve, and science to falsify the marxists, postmodernists feminists and difference-denialists. So we are in a position where I must, or at least, someone of ability must, try to discover a vehicle for unity at faster pace than would naturally evolve. If not for immigration I would not need to do this work. Because science has solved the lies. But false promise to the vulnerable is seductive and spreads more quickly than we can stop it.

  • Why Request Exchange of Tribal Loyalty Between European Religious Factions?

    (core) (religion)

    —“Upon what foundation then did the progenitors of civilisation, Greece then Rome, build itself?”—

    [W]e evolve a means of production, and a means of military competition under that means of production, an organization to manage both, and a narrative to justify both, so that we can reduce the cost and opportunity for conflict in order to maintain those strategies. Every civilization’s strategy is fairly easy to express in those terms. European civilization in mediterranean, continental, north sea, and Atlantic eras continue the aristocratic egalitarian tripartite trifunctional organization, and the old military strategy, old law (legal), old myths (social), philosophical, and theological (political) varying little other than the replacement of the ancient warrior-hunter-farmer heroic religion with the medieval farmer-peasant submissive religion of christianity. But given tripartism and trifunctionalism the law and the military remains constant and the church rise and fell. Today the new church is again semitic, with islam, judaism, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and denialism, in competition with our traditional masculine hierarchical markets and law.

    —“Are not their successes constituted of the virtues they upheld?”–

    Virtues are excuses for the group competitive strategy we rarely if ever know. Values persist because they persist the competitive strategy. values can be undermined. Judiasm, christianity, marxism, postmodernism, and feminism sought to undermine european values and succeeded because women are vulnerable to the false promise and men are vulnerable to satisfying the demands of women unless in continuous competition with other males. Our natural ancestral religion upon which our civilization is founded is one of chaotic gods we compete, cooperate, and trade with – not one we are submissive to. These gods of warriors, whether the greek, roman, germanic pantheons. The church sought to supplant them with submissive gods of slaves who were docile in their fear and ignorance – and who the church could extract revenue from by rent seeking. Submission to gods so that one is devoid of responsibility is a christian innovation, achieving its zenith in islam. This is why it is seductive. Devotion to gods so that one is free of status pressure is not a christian innovation. It is even more seductive. Submission to scripture so that one is free of continuous calculation for which one may fail or be subject to blame is semitic innovation. It is seductive as well. These seductions are successful and they are the opposite of the aryan demand for non submission and non-alienation of rights and responsibilities, including pursuit of status, achievement, and innovative reason. The church failed the aristocracy succeeded, and we have not yet found a means of accommodating christianity in its decline, while producing a non-false religion. We are in a time of transition. Either the second dark age of the jews will succeed, the second dark age of the muslims, or we will discover a means of combining our three religions chistian(feminine), heathen-nature(familial), pagan-hero(masculine), and aristotelian(judicial), or at least exchanging loyalty between the three, so that we are not subject to a second semitic dark age. So we are still and will always be a triparite people: Scientific and Legal and heroic (agency), Philosophical and practical for the able, theological and submissive for the less able or more sensitive to conflict and social pressure (or the dysfunctional who confuse their spiritual accommodation of reality with reality itself.

    —“What Christianity was there here?”–

    What “here” are you referring to?

    —“When you come to Christians asking not the renunciation of their faith but merely loyalty, remember that this is all the Romans first asked of the Christians too.”—

    Our ancestors came to jews. Who we were too tolerant of, just as we are too tolerant of islamists, jews, marxists, postmodernists, feminists and science denialists. And because of our tolerance the jews used false promise, to bait our people into hazard, causing a dark age of ignorance and poverty and disease and suffering only aristotelian thought reversed, and ended the centuries of corruption by the church. Corruption not seen by americans until the prosecution of the deviancy of catholic churches, because protestants have forgotten the corruption of the church prior to the reformation, and the personalization of the relationship between the individual and god first, and the individual and jesus second – due largely to american evangelical protestants.

    —“Remember, it wasn’t the strange and foreign beliefs of the Christians that first caught the attention of the Romans, but rather their abstention from community.”—

    It was the use of christianity to undermine greco roman civlization just as islam, judaism, marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and their science denialism is used to undermine european civilzation for the past century and a half. Sol invictus was the migration of roman religion from zeus-jupiter. Mithras was the migration of the persian version of Mithra – the perfect man. Christianity was invented by using the victim-narrative and the promise of life after death, in stead of the Zeus-Sol-Mithra character we should aspire to be, and the jesus narrative invented so that it could replace the Epic Cycle (Homer) which had conquered and was about to erase the semitic world. Judaism, christianity, ad islam were invented by the poor ignorant desert peasantry as a means of using the female group strategy of undermining by gossip, to overthrow the invention of markets, law, reason, merit, and transcendence of man into gods. And I am, like my predecessors, trying once again to prevent another semitic dark age – by accommodating christians. Christians who have not yet converted christianity into a hearth religion. But are very close to having done so. If not for the invasion by jews, muslims, and the underclasses – because of christian tolerance – we would have had the time for christianity to evolve, and science to falsify the marxists, postmodernists feminists and difference-denialists. So we are in a position where I must, or at least, someone of ability must, try to discover a vehicle for unity at faster pace than would naturally evolve. If not for immigration I would not need to do this work. Because science has solved the lies. But false promise to the vulnerable is seductive and spreads more quickly than we can stop it.

  • How Gods Exist and Function

    How Gods Exist and Function https://propertarianism.com/2020/02/25/how-gods-exist-and-function/

    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-25 20:14:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1232398569350496257

  • How Gods Exist and Function

    by Curt Doolittle and Stephen Wells -by Stephen Wells: The mistake in reasoning of those who “give it up to God” is generally one of falsely assuming that any higher power operates like a magic wand. Author Napoleon Hill who spent years studying successful people noted that the spiritual difference of successful over non successful people was that successful people assigned their faith to God to provide solutions for for them to take action on themselves, rather than for God to simply make their problems go away. In short, God was to be found within their own subconscious and expressed by acting on their intuition, which itself was disciplined and directed by conscious thought and continuous action towards a clearly defined goal. -by Curt Doolittle [Y]es, this is the correct(scientific) definition of god. Gods exists as information.That information is trained into your intuitionThat training organizes and filters your intuition.Primarily it prevents self deception or, (and this is true) deception by your genes, old, and middle brains. And for very obvious reasons, anthropomorphizing that information is more effective at extracting truthfulness from your intuition than you are able to do without it – because intuition will let your genes influence you chaotically while anthropomorphized intuition falsifies your intuition (your auto association) to predict how that character would interpret your thoughts. In other words, we can use our social instincts to override our chaotic intuition by creating a framework for truthful prediction. This is pretty obvious once you think it thru. Our bodies and faculties are our only system of measurement. But since we are human and evolved consciousness with enough recursion to predict others’ actions, feelings, thoughts, and wants, we can use other people (archetypes) as systems of measurement as well. Is there a difference between what would god want me to do, what would Jesus want me to do, what would Gandalf or Aristotle, me to do, and what would my grandmother want me to do? No there isn’t other than a god is a proxy for your social order. Systems of measurement to provide a neural economy superior predictive power.

  • How Gods Exist and Function

    by Curt Doolittle and Stephen Wells -by Stephen Wells: The mistake in reasoning of those who “give it up to God” is generally one of falsely assuming that any higher power operates like a magic wand. Author Napoleon Hill who spent years studying successful people noted that the spiritual difference of successful over non successful people was that successful people assigned their faith to God to provide solutions for for them to take action on themselves, rather than for God to simply make their problems go away. In short, God was to be found within their own subconscious and expressed by acting on their intuition, which itself was disciplined and directed by conscious thought and continuous action towards a clearly defined goal. -by Curt Doolittle [Y]es, this is the correct(scientific) definition of god. Gods exists as information.That information is trained into your intuitionThat training organizes and filters your intuition.Primarily it prevents self deception or, (and this is true) deception by your genes, old, and middle brains. And for very obvious reasons, anthropomorphizing that information is more effective at extracting truthfulness from your intuition than you are able to do without it – because intuition will let your genes influence you chaotically while anthropomorphized intuition falsifies your intuition (your auto association) to predict how that character would interpret your thoughts. In other words, we can use our social instincts to override our chaotic intuition by creating a framework for truthful prediction. This is pretty obvious once you think it thru. Our bodies and faculties are our only system of measurement. But since we are human and evolved consciousness with enough recursion to predict others’ actions, feelings, thoughts, and wants, we can use other people (archetypes) as systems of measurement as well. Is there a difference between what would god want me to do, what would Jesus want me to do, what would Gandalf or Aristotle, me to do, and what would my grandmother want me to do? No there isn’t other than a god is a proxy for your social order. Systems of measurement to provide a neural economy superior predictive power.