Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • GOOD ADVICE FROM A CHRISTIAN From Anon (via pm) (CD: See. If you get enough of a

    GOOD ADVICE FROM A CHRISTIAN

    From Anon (via pm)

    (CD: See. If you get enough of a solution the people help you. A “Discernment Movement”. “Christisim, Churchianity, and Orthodoxy”. Hmmm… that sets up Jesus vs political religion vs social religion nicely like the conflict between Science-Law vs philosophy(political) vs Faith, as the MONOPOLY position in both series failed. This helps a great deal. )

    From Anon;

    Curt. Read your piece – the first sermon. You’re doing quite a good job. I call it a Discernment Movement!

    On the piece, I have shared similar view about Christianity and I have for long, distance myself from the church and often avoid confrontation with dogma-infused people I know.

    I think you could do so much better by getting more people on your side by either:

    1. Developing on these themes: Christism or Christology (you could find better name) to promote the exact teachings and practice of Jesus – the ‘first sermon’ captures it well – as again current Christianity which is a dogma. Present Christianity is to be deservingly attacked as’ ‘Churchianity,’ your accurate construct. Both approaches are better to maximise benefits. It may be difficult to reform Christianity as it is, reason for the new approach.

    2. Do a propertarian interpretation of the Bible – which could on its be a bestseller. I think it could potentially knock down struggling Churchianity and a special propertarian biblican account of Jesus and how he should be understood, followed and a standard to determine those who pervert, undermine, and manipulate his brand for other purposes can be identified. This could be a potential canon in the making to liberate all under the effective control of churchian leaders.

    (CD: We would need to do Aristotle, The Epic Cycle, The Bible, and the Germanic-nordic) Cycle. I understand the need for the first two I didn’t think of really doing over the bible but i certainly am beginning to get there…. hmmm. very smart.)

    You can see, I already like the construct, churchian.

    3. 1 and 2 to go together. This is where the mass body of Christianity could be forced to rethink and also pay attention to propertarianism.

    Finally, if you’re to consider this suggestion, observe this as well, while promoting propertarian Christism (let’s that be a dummy name), refrain from using attacking current Christian community as a whole for rhetorical reason – let people, the audience concentrate on the message ONLY.

    However, for the them on attacking Churchianity, you critique limit it to critique and moderate use of strong words at this outset.

    Reasonable, decent people, those who want to be Christ-like, I think, will pay attention if it’s devoid of strong language and attack.

    Again, the consideration here is rhetoric.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-11 14:39:00 UTC

  • You either act as jesus acted and asks us to act, or you are not christian. You

    You either act as jesus acted and asks us to act, or you are not christian. You are a political movement no different from the cancer of Islam.

    You re the anti-christ in your selfishness, greed, and arrogance.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-11 14:02:24 UTC

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    @Anne_Fallible @CrusaderSvcs @JohnMarkSays It has absolutely nothing to do with loving thy neighbor as you would love yourself – the extension of familial love to kith and kin. It has everything to do with hatred of they neighbor for not adapting to your form of making sense of the world: your selfishness and greed.

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  • It has absolutely nothing to do with loving thy neighbor as you would love yours

    It has absolutely nothing to do with loving thy neighbor as you would love yourself – the extension of familial love to kith and kin. It has everything to do with hatred of they neighbor for not adapting to your form of making sense of the world: your selfishness and greed.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-11 14:01:03 UTC

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    @Anne_Fallible @CrusaderSvcs @JohnMarkSays The dogmatically faithful demonstrate loyalty to one another by loyalty to dogma so that together they create a social construction (tribe), so that together they can serve as a social and political FORCE – a resistance movement – against other tools of status signaling: power.

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  • The dogmatically faithful demonstrate loyalty to one another by loyalty to dogma

    The dogmatically faithful demonstrate loyalty to one another by loyalty to dogma so that together they create a social construction (tribe), so that together they can serve as a social and political FORCE – a resistance movement – against other tools of status signaling: power.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-11 13:59:14 UTC

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    @Anne_Fallible @CrusaderSvcs @JohnMarkSays And instead of intolerance of those who do not imitate jesus’ teaching of love your neighbor as you love yourself, you are intolerant of others who do not satisfy your selfish demand that others understand the world on your terms.

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  • And instead of intolerance of those who do not imitate jesus’ teaching of love y

    And instead of intolerance of those who do not imitate jesus’ teaching of love your neighbor as you love yourself, you are intolerant of others who do not satisfy your selfish demand that others understand the world on your terms.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-11 13:56:22 UTC

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    @Anne_Fallible @CrusaderSvcs @JohnMarkSays It is you who are anti-christ. For you jesus was a prophet. For some of us he was a philosopher. For others he was a law giver. For others a social scientist. Because each of us differs in how we understand the world, emotionally, rationally, practically, or empirically.

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  • It is you who are anti-christ. For you jesus was a prophet. For some of us he wa

    It is you who are anti-christ. For you jesus was a prophet. For some of us he was a philosopher. For others he was a law giver. For others a social scientist. Because each of us differs in how we understand the world, emotionally, rationally, practically, or empirically.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-11 13:52:40 UTC

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    @Anne_Fallible @CrusaderSvcs @JohnMarkSays And your demand for obedience to YOU, to YOUR interpretation of dogmatic text, to YOUR faith in abandoning reason, rather than our faith in tradition of followers of jesus, our imitation of jesus, or in our reason about him, is a violation of jesus’ teaching.

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  • And your demand for obedience to YOU, to YOUR interpretation of dogmatic text, t

    And your demand for obedience to YOU, to YOUR interpretation of dogmatic text, to YOUR faith in abandoning reason, rather than our faith in tradition of followers of jesus, our imitation of jesus, or in our reason about him, is a violation of jesus’ teaching.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-11 13:48:02 UTC

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    @Anne_Fallible @CrusaderSvcs @JohnMarkSays The question is whether one is “anti” Jesus’ teachings, or “anti” dogmatic text that was added to those teachings by others, or anti those who pretend to follow Jesus but don’t. We follow jesus by action, and action alone. Whether by faith, tradition, or reason.

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  • The question is whether one is “anti” Jesus’ teachings, or “anti” dogmatic text

    The question is whether one is “anti” Jesus’ teachings, or “anti” dogmatic text that was added to those teachings by others, or anti those who pretend to follow Jesus but don’t. We follow jesus by action, and action alone. Whether by faith, tradition, or reason.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-11 13:41:47 UTC

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  • “Most orthodox churches – Greek, Serbian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Russian, Romania

    —“Most orthodox churches – Greek, Serbian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Russian, Romanian – are organized around a nation, language and culture. This is why in a multi-cultural societies they have a hard time starting new Orthodox churches from zero. Because people will be drawn to existing national Orthodox churches. So you don’t need to tell any Orthodox twice about why being a nationalist is good 🙂 “—James Dmitro Makienko


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-10 15:40:00 UTC

  • WORLD RELIGIONS AND THEIR CONSEQUENCES —“Curt Doolittle: in comparison between

    WORLD RELIGIONS AND THEIR CONSEQUENCES

    —“Curt Doolittle: in comparison between Orthodoxy and evangelical Christianity in making states more or less better or first world or third world?”—Ibrahim Abd El Shihead

    Narrow Point:

    The fact that the orthodox church didn’t or couldn’t compete with the state on one hand, and didn’t try, as catholicism, to compete with science, reason, commerce, and law, (competition) and remained a specialist in family affairs (unity, community, love) is why it is still regarded as sacred to the people. This is why I don’t ever seem to have a problem with the orthodox community “church is for church, law is for disputes to be avoided at all costs, state is for state to protect us, and we all get along fine if we do our f-king jobs”.

    The problem i have with xianity is that western christians haven’t given up on fantasy of monopoly – theocratic rule, and can’t seem (like russians and traditional americans) to practice the natural trichotomy of state, law, and faith., Under the rather (insane) presumption that the church, having failed so drastically wouldn’t do so again.

    So to in this sense while evangelical christianity is closest to jesus’ teaching, the orthodox church is closest to the institutional church we need, and the catholic church and the protestant churches to that sought to limit the parasitism of the church, were failures. In other words, orthodoxy seems to have avoided both the catholic attempt to rule, the protestant attempt to undermine the church’s corruption, the necessity of catholic and protestant churches to attract members of the aristocracy as local administrators, and best preserved the role of the church in society. Another example of the value of intolerant monarchies.

    Broader Point:

    Aristotelianism seems to produce scientific and technical potential.

    Christianity seems to produce political and commercial potential but it wasn’t enough in russia probably because they missed the renaissance, reformation, and enlightenment.

    Islam seems to resist political, commercial and scientific potential, but produces underclass harmony.

    Judaism produces organized crime families that prey on the commons, which is extremely profitable for them at the cost of the host people. Judaism hasn’t been nearly as destructive as islam – but it’s certainly been bad for germany, russia, america, and now all of western europe.

    Hinduism is some kind of absolutely beautiful madness that I still struggle to get my arms around, but their problem seems to be demographic and without division into sub-states politically impossible to overcome.

    buddhism produces an equally kind harmony at the cost of stagnation. china is trivially easy to understand because they escaped religion. japan and korea easiest to understand.

    Without christianity (enforced) scandinavia, and without buddhism (enforced) japan/korea, would have come provided a pattern we needed. the optimum ‘religion’ was rule of law, militia, monarchy (imperialism), paganism (aristocracy), stoicism(middle) epicureanism (lower middle) heathenism (family), and a priesthood of any kind to take responsibility for the peasantry.

    This competition serves better than monopoly but it needs strong rule of law to prevent any usurping the rest. The problem is, markets are susceptible to intolerant monopolies and monotheism is intolerant and intolerance wins, so the only ‘total intolerance’ we need is defense of those markets.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-10 12:09:00 UTC