Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • Shannon Constantine and John Mark REWORD IT

    Mar 9, 2020, 1:44 PM Shannon Constantine and John Mark REWORD IT

    —“”The theological systems are a false promise to create a social construction that denies some aspect of reality in exchange for a false promise and organize a resistance movement against truth, and markets.”—” —“Can somebody reword this? Feel it’s a great point but difficult for me to understand. It’s in reference to how the usual suspects destroy our countries.”—

    Shannon Constantine Logan Leftism is an ideology or a secular religion, so we can use them as an example. Leftism offers the false promise of equality, and creates social constructs that deny basic biology and natural law, in order to steal resources and redistribute them arbitrarily. This is in effect, an organized resistance movement against truth, reciprocity, meritocracy, competition (markets) etc. John Mark Our enemies (people who instinctively react against truth and meritocracy, the western strategy) use 2 techniques to lie as an excuse to violate reciprocity (be parasites). Those 2 techniques are 1) lying about humanity by saying people/groups are equal, and 2) making supernatural claims

  • Shannon Constantine and John Mark REWORD IT

    Mar 9, 2020, 1:44 PM Shannon Constantine and John Mark REWORD IT

    —“”The theological systems are a false promise to create a social construction that denies some aspect of reality in exchange for a false promise and organize a resistance movement against truth, and markets.”—” —“Can somebody reword this? Feel it’s a great point but difficult for me to understand. It’s in reference to how the usual suspects destroy our countries.”—

    Shannon Constantine Logan Leftism is an ideology or a secular religion, so we can use them as an example. Leftism offers the false promise of equality, and creates social constructs that deny basic biology and natural law, in order to steal resources and redistribute them arbitrarily. This is in effect, an organized resistance movement against truth, reciprocity, meritocracy, competition (markets) etc. John Mark Our enemies (people who instinctively react against truth and meritocracy, the western strategy) use 2 techniques to lie as an excuse to violate reciprocity (be parasites). Those 2 techniques are 1) lying about humanity by saying people/groups are equal, and 2) making supernatural claims

  • Demarcation Between the Abrahamic Method and The Christian Method

    Demarcation Between the Abrahamic Method and The Christian Method. https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/29/demarcation-between-the-abrahamic-method-and-the-christian-method/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-29 01:16:22 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266176522999812096

  • Demarcation Between the Abrahamic Method and The Christian Method.

    Mar 9, 2020, 2:15 PM I think I am simply failing at demarcation between the abrahamic method and the christian method. Gods are good, religion is good, a church is a good thing, jesus said good things, but the bible is evil as hell compared to our founding literatures: the matter of greece and rome, the matter of france, the matter of germany, the matter of england, and the matter of america. These are heroic. But they are for the aristocracy (those with agency). There is no caretaker, no submission, no femininity to the western aristocratic religion. There is just TRAGEDY. Christians attempted to appropriate the western method of tragedy of achilles(upper class, masculine, hero) with jesus (underclass feminine victim) The process worked. It’s compatible. What’s not compatible is abrahamic method of ‘selling’ it. Why is it hard to say ‘jesus was right’. Instead of all the nonsense surrounding it?

    1. Stories of Gods (Parents) are the most-native(lowest cost, biologically available) language (grammar and logic ) usable by the intuition (pre-conscious), for assistance in decision making (choice) within the group strategy (method of organizing), such that frictions (threats, violations) are minimized, and retaliations are minimized, and opportunities for cooperation are maximized.
    2. There are no gods other than as narrative information, serving as a system of measurement, in our minds. There are hundreds of dead gods and dozens of living gods currently in the minds of men.

    3. There is no life after death other than as information in our minds, and the information we leave behind as conscious and preconscious effects on those around us, and the artifacts in the world around us – but these things do persist after death, and do continue to influence others – and in some cases for thousands of years.

    4. There is no heaven other than as in formation in our minds, it is merely the means by which we release the frustration of bearing the psychological costs of compromise and loss in competition, cooperation, and cohabitation, with others.

    5. The western tradition of ethnocentrism and heroism, sovereignty and reciprocity, truth and duty is the optimum adaptive order for human beings.(The optimum evolutionary strategy)

    6. Christian exhaustion of extension of kinship love to kith with forgiveness before retaliation, dispossession, or extermination, is the optimum means of increasing that adaptive velocity (the optimum prisoner’s dilemma strategy)

    7. Aristotelian realism, naturalism, operationalism, empiricism, logicism, and anglo-cooperativism-and-economicism is the optimum conceptual framework for rapid adaptation (optimum knowledge evolutionary strategy).

    8. The universe works by predictable rules we will continue to discover as the only possible organization of energy that will produce the three dimensions of mass and massless, gravity and pressure, space and time.

    9. But to tolerate all this adaptation, all of which requires stress on our thoughts, emotions, and bodies, we need mindfulness at the psychological (personal), sociological(interpersonal), and political (organizational) levels.

    10. Mindfulness can be provided through ritual which provides a calming effect on our computation, by a continuous positive feedback loop (tea ceremony, sacrifice); it can be provided by social construction of a narrative whether a truth or falsehood (mythology); it can be provided through harmonious group activity (oath, prayer, ritual, dance, sport, festival, feast).It can be provided through discipline ( the rituals of yoga, or of buddhist meditation, and withdrawal)….
      … Or mindfulness can be provided through deliberate training (the ritual of the stoic method of continuous self improvement or what we call ‘cognitive behavioral therapy’); it can be provided through epicurean knowledge and living, and aristotelian knowledge of the universe, and aristotelian history of man – a story more heroic than any envisioned in our myths. A story that Includes heroes such as Jesus and Achilles(Alexander).

    11. The reason for prohibiting a monotheistic religion is to prevent the use of retaliation by religious fundamentalists against the group – thereby undermining the civilization from within. Likewise the reason for a pagan religion – a pantheon of heroes, scientists, artists, and saints, is to prevent undermining a civilization from within.

    The truth is always simple. It’s the lies that make the world complicated. Edit

  • Demarcation Between the Abrahamic Method and The Christian Method.

    Mar 9, 2020, 2:15 PM I think I am simply failing at demarcation between the abrahamic method and the christian method. Gods are good, religion is good, a church is a good thing, jesus said good things, but the bible is evil as hell compared to our founding literatures: the matter of greece and rome, the matter of france, the matter of germany, the matter of england, and the matter of america. These are heroic. But they are for the aristocracy (those with agency). There is no caretaker, no submission, no femininity to the western aristocratic religion. There is just TRAGEDY. Christians attempted to appropriate the western method of tragedy of achilles(upper class, masculine, hero) with jesus (underclass feminine victim) The process worked. It’s compatible. What’s not compatible is abrahamic method of ‘selling’ it. Why is it hard to say ‘jesus was right’. Instead of all the nonsense surrounding it?

    1. Stories of Gods (Parents) are the most-native(lowest cost, biologically available) language (grammar and logic ) usable by the intuition (pre-conscious), for assistance in decision making (choice) within the group strategy (method of organizing), such that frictions (threats, violations) are minimized, and retaliations are minimized, and opportunities for cooperation are maximized.
    2. There are no gods other than as narrative information, serving as a system of measurement, in our minds. There are hundreds of dead gods and dozens of living gods currently in the minds of men.

    3. There is no life after death other than as information in our minds, and the information we leave behind as conscious and preconscious effects on those around us, and the artifacts in the world around us – but these things do persist after death, and do continue to influence others – and in some cases for thousands of years.

    4. There is no heaven other than as in formation in our minds, it is merely the means by which we release the frustration of bearing the psychological costs of compromise and loss in competition, cooperation, and cohabitation, with others.

    5. The western tradition of ethnocentrism and heroism, sovereignty and reciprocity, truth and duty is the optimum adaptive order for human beings.(The optimum evolutionary strategy)

    6. Christian exhaustion of extension of kinship love to kith with forgiveness before retaliation, dispossession, or extermination, is the optimum means of increasing that adaptive velocity (the optimum prisoner’s dilemma strategy)

    7. Aristotelian realism, naturalism, operationalism, empiricism, logicism, and anglo-cooperativism-and-economicism is the optimum conceptual framework for rapid adaptation (optimum knowledge evolutionary strategy).

    8. The universe works by predictable rules we will continue to discover as the only possible organization of energy that will produce the three dimensions of mass and massless, gravity and pressure, space and time.

    9. But to tolerate all this adaptation, all of which requires stress on our thoughts, emotions, and bodies, we need mindfulness at the psychological (personal), sociological(interpersonal), and political (organizational) levels.

    10. Mindfulness can be provided through ritual which provides a calming effect on our computation, by a continuous positive feedback loop (tea ceremony, sacrifice); it can be provided by social construction of a narrative whether a truth or falsehood (mythology); it can be provided through harmonious group activity (oath, prayer, ritual, dance, sport, festival, feast).It can be provided through discipline ( the rituals of yoga, or of buddhist meditation, and withdrawal)….
      … Or mindfulness can be provided through deliberate training (the ritual of the stoic method of continuous self improvement or what we call ‘cognitive behavioral therapy’); it can be provided through epicurean knowledge and living, and aristotelian knowledge of the universe, and aristotelian history of man – a story more heroic than any envisioned in our myths. A story that Includes heroes such as Jesus and Achilles(Alexander).

    11. The reason for prohibiting a monotheistic religion is to prevent the use of retaliation by religious fundamentalists against the group – thereby undermining the civilization from within. Likewise the reason for a pagan religion – a pantheon of heroes, scientists, artists, and saints, is to prevent undermining a civilization from within.

    The truth is always simple. It’s the lies that make the world complicated. Edit

  • Books On Evil

    Books On Evil https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/29/books-on-evil/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-29 01:13:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266175776216559623

  • Q: What’s your definition of Christianity?

    Q: What’s your definition of Christianity? https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/29/q-whats-your-definition-of-christianity/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-29 01:10:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266175118134448128

  • Q: What’s your definition of Christianity?

    Mar 10, 2020, 12:39 PM

    —“What’s your definition of Christianity”—

    What’s my definition of christianity? It means you are an ethnic and cultural european whose metaphysics, myths, and rituals, are NOT those of Germanic heathenism, European paganism, Baha’i, Buddhism, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism, or the other 15-17% of the world that practices some form of animism. A thing is defined by what it is not. This is why there are hundreds of christian sects and factions each claiming they are christian but in disagreement over what that entails. Scientifically it means the 0) gold (do unto others) and silver (do not unto others) rules – expressed in the law of truth(testimony), oath(contract), property(sovereignty), and tort before jury, 1) the eradication of hatred from the human heart. 2) the extension of kinship love to non-kin (where it should only be kith). 3) the demand for personal acts of charity and personal cost, 4) the extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment, enserfment, enslavement, death, or war. 5) in exchange for the abdication of self responsibility for all else, thus relief from persistent status pressure each of us is born with varying sensitivity to, with the empathic feminine mind more subject to it than the analytic male mind, thus the dominance of and persistence of the christian population by women and empathic men on one side and males of low ability that can find intellectual mindfulness in adherence to mythology. Narratively, it means 6) the mythology of and imitation of jesus for some protestants, the mythology and theology of the jews and their god for other protestants, the ritual and myths of orthodoxy for others, the dogma of centuries of theology for catholics. For others, it means 7) it’s superstitious primitive nonsense, for whom the golden and silver rules encapsulate all that is necessary, the common law, and truth before face, all that is necessary, and personal responsibility for the mind, self, family, kin, kith, and commons all that is necessary, and that the gods are in the minds of men, and that the universe is written in the laws of nature, the natural law, and the law of evolution, and our necessity to evolve in to the omniscient and omnipotent gods we imagined, given the finality of time available to us in the universe. And that any religion that disagrees with these laws is evil, and a crime against mankind, and it’s followers better burned on pyres as witches than tolerated for one moment more. Thankfully, other than suicidal universalism, suicidal tolerance, suicidal pacifism, denial of evolution, denial of human individual and group differences, denial of the necessity of our evolution into omniscience and omnipotence, and it’s incompatibility with laws of nature, christianity is not only compatible with natural law, but an improvement upon it’s epistemology. So while politically and militarily it’s terrible, socially and familially it’s wonderful. Which is enough to stay out of the way of transcendence. It’s just not enough to save itself and its people from jewish and islamic conquest.

  • Q: What’s your definition of Christianity?

    Mar 10, 2020, 12:39 PM

    —“What’s your definition of Christianity”—

    What’s my definition of christianity? It means you are an ethnic and cultural european whose metaphysics, myths, and rituals, are NOT those of Germanic heathenism, European paganism, Baha’i, Buddhism, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism, or the other 15-17% of the world that practices some form of animism. A thing is defined by what it is not. This is why there are hundreds of christian sects and factions each claiming they are christian but in disagreement over what that entails. Scientifically it means the 0) gold (do unto others) and silver (do not unto others) rules – expressed in the law of truth(testimony), oath(contract), property(sovereignty), and tort before jury, 1) the eradication of hatred from the human heart. 2) the extension of kinship love to non-kin (where it should only be kith). 3) the demand for personal acts of charity and personal cost, 4) the extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment, enserfment, enslavement, death, or war. 5) in exchange for the abdication of self responsibility for all else, thus relief from persistent status pressure each of us is born with varying sensitivity to, with the empathic feminine mind more subject to it than the analytic male mind, thus the dominance of and persistence of the christian population by women and empathic men on one side and males of low ability that can find intellectual mindfulness in adherence to mythology. Narratively, it means 6) the mythology of and imitation of jesus for some protestants, the mythology and theology of the jews and their god for other protestants, the ritual and myths of orthodoxy for others, the dogma of centuries of theology for catholics. For others, it means 7) it’s superstitious primitive nonsense, for whom the golden and silver rules encapsulate all that is necessary, the common law, and truth before face, all that is necessary, and personal responsibility for the mind, self, family, kin, kith, and commons all that is necessary, and that the gods are in the minds of men, and that the universe is written in the laws of nature, the natural law, and the law of evolution, and our necessity to evolve in to the omniscient and omnipotent gods we imagined, given the finality of time available to us in the universe. And that any religion that disagrees with these laws is evil, and a crime against mankind, and it’s followers better burned on pyres as witches than tolerated for one moment more. Thankfully, other than suicidal universalism, suicidal tolerance, suicidal pacifism, denial of evolution, denial of human individual and group differences, denial of the necessity of our evolution into omniscience and omnipotence, and it’s incompatibility with laws of nature, christianity is not only compatible with natural law, but an improvement upon it’s epistemology. So while politically and militarily it’s terrible, socially and familially it’s wonderful. Which is enough to stay out of the way of transcendence. It’s just not enough to save itself and its people from jewish and islamic conquest.

  • All Our Gods Were War Gods – We Were an Army First

    All Our Gods Were War Gods – We Were an Army First. https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/29/all-our-gods-were-war-gods-we-were-an-army-first/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-29 00:43:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266168128800796672