Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • And You Will Know Good and Evil

    AND YOU WILL KNOW GOOD AND EVIL by Predmetsky Rosenborg Early Gnostic texts portray the serpent and Eve (sometimes almost conflating them) as positive messengers of truth and God as evil. In the case of Marcion, at least, it was the Old Testament God who was evil. What’s interesting is that the New Testament portrays Satan as a liar and the father of lies, but in the text of Genesis, God seems to acknowledge that Satan was telling the truth after all. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil” (Gen. 3:5) “Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”(Gen. 3:22).

  • John Mark Explains My Position on Christianity

    John Mark Explains My Position on Christianity https://t.co/yseMLnrD4B

  • John Mark Explains My Position on Christianity

    John Mark Explains My Position on Christianity https://propertarianism.com/2020/06/01/john-mark-explains-my-position-on-christianity/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-06-01 22:18:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267581274996256769

  • John Mark Explains My Position on Christianity

    JOHN MARK EXPLAINS MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY (core)(important) To John’s Thoughts, I’ll add this:

    1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.
    2. A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.

    3. RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.

    4. RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)

    5. MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.

    6. MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.

    THE METHOD TO THE APPARENT MADNESS There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.

    • Curt
  • John Mark Explains My Position on Christianity

    JOHN MARK EXPLAINS MY POSITION ON CHRISTIANITY (core)(important) To John’s Thoughts, I’ll add this:

    1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.
    2. A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.

    3. RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.

    4. RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)

    5. MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.

    6. MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.

    THE METHOD TO THE APPARENT MADNESS There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.

    • Curt
  • “”God is love” (1 John 4:8) is bullshit pilpul that really means “love is God,”

    —“”God is love” (1 John 4:8) is bullshit pilpul that really means “love is God,” which is euphemistic code for envy-based care/harm fundamentalism that punishes the strong for being strong and celebrates the weak for being weak.”—Predmetsky Rosenborg

    via Michelle German

  • “”God is love” (1 John 4:8) is bullshit pilpul that really means “love is God,”

    —“”God is love” (1 John 4:8) is bullshit pilpul that really means “love is God,” which is euphemistic code for envy-based care/harm fundamentalism that punishes the strong for being strong and celebrates the weak for being weak.”—Predmetsky Rosenborg

    via Michelle German

  • Christians: What Is the Difference?

    Christians: What Is the Difference? https://t.co/ujtpWF2onY

  • Christians: What Is the Difference?

    Christians: What Is the Difference? https://propertarianism.com/2020/06/01/christians-what-is-the-difference/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-06-01 18:36:45 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267525511066066948

  • Christians: What Is the Difference?

    What is the cause of natural law? To the scientist it is the order of the universe. To the faithful it is god’s design. What’s the difference other than whether god created the universe (faith) or we don’t know what created the universe (skepticism), if we all obey the natural law of reciprocity and imitation of jesus and christian charity and exhaustion of forgiveness. That’s what jefferson said, and that’s what I say and we are law givers not priests. It’s not our job to do anything other than the law that prohibits bads. That which creates goods is up to those who do not violate the law. If we obey gods law because someone in the past said we must or if we do so because the scientific evidence in all walks of life says we must, what is the difference?