Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • RELIGION IS A TECHNOLOGY. WE DONT NEED TO PROVE IT”S TRUE. JUST JUDGE ITS EFFECT

    RELIGION IS A TECHNOLOGY. WE DONT NEED TO PROVE IT”S TRUE. JUST JUDGE ITS EFFECTS (GOOD AND BAD)

    by Frey Harman (edited for clarity)

    What we need to do is disprove this idea of needing to prove things. [CD: Or claim religion is ‘true’ rather than effective and quite possibly necessary.]

    Religion is a technology. Technology either works or it doesn’t. Science can’t do anything to technology except explain it. If we demarcate science from technology, science seeks general rules of the universe – to understand. Technology is usually developed by trial and error to serve a purpose – to act. And, [psychlogial and social] technology isn’t even based on science, nor informed by science. Often, technology outpaces science. I’m not sure why philosophy would have any more to say about the matter of religion as a technology than science does: regardless of whether it’s true or what general rules religions follow, the technology works or doesn’t, and works beneficially or harmfully.

    Nassim Taleb was somewhat influential in snapping me out of the false dichotomy between atheism and monotheistic fundamentalism – making me realize they’re two sides of the same coin; two interpretations derived ultimately from the same error. The error of taking things too literally.

    —“When someone discusses religious beliefs, he does not necessarily mean belief in the epistemic sense, and the relevance of the epistemic sense of the term decreases the further back ones goes in the fixation of the creed. Rather, such notions are rather closer to the root of “belief”: beloved, a sense of commitment, something related to the notion of trust. It is not coincidental that “credere” is related to letter of credit or financial transactions that entail trust (see Armstrong 1994; Boyer 2001). …. Accordingly it is an extremely naive interpretation to think that religious ‘beliefs’ map to the ‘justified true belief’ standards of modern epistemology (see Ichikawa and Steup 2014); it is naive to examine the supernatural aspect of religion as anything but epiphenomenal. One needs to think of religious ‘belief’ as closer to a form of trusting, as a form of action, or a willingness to take action, and, most crucially of all, as a set of interdicts upon action. Further, religion establishes a categorical demarcation between sacred and profane, and one that cannot be violated (see Eliade 1959). The sacred is not open to ‘rationalization’ what we don’t understand is not necessarily irrational, and it might have reasons that can be probed only across generations of experience and experimentation.”— Taleb

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    By CurtD

    Great quote.

    This is correct.

    I state the same thing in economic language: by Belief (love, trust, respect, submission of self), religion (debt performance, oath), and anthropomorphisms (systems of measurement, choice, in payment of debt, in exchange for love and respect) provide the most intuitive system of behavior manageable by man.

    So as usual, Taleb is less ‘scientific’ and more ‘literary’ than I am. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-22 10:19:00 UTC

  • Not necessary. I just read Pew research, and google alerts for “church attendanc

    Not necessary. I just read Pew research, and google alerts for “church attendance” and a few other keywords. 😉 the most interesting are churches for sale, and church revenues.

    Rough estimate is two more generations.

    https://t.co/ehsABS0Xg5

    Reply addressees: @trisidorou

  • Not necessary. I just read Pew research, and google alerts for “church attendanc

    Not necessary. I just read Pew research, and google alerts for “church attendance” and a few other keywords. 😉 the most interesting are churches for sale, and church revenues.

    Rough estimate is two more generations.

    https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-22 03:41:41 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285782037702508544

    Reply addressees: @trisidorou

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285780094749937664

  • Data: your church will be gone in the next generation. Your religion is now a fo

    Data: your church will be gone in the next generation. Your religion is now a fo

    Data: your church will be gone in the next generation. Your religion is now a folk cult that will be eradicated by the state as soon as it has enough votes to do so. Votes made possible by Christian tolerance and universalism. https://t.co/RwfWwuEzVf

    Reply addressees: @VrotherJohn

  • Data: your church will be gone in the next generation. Your religion is now a fo

    Data: your church will be gone in the next generation. Your religion is now a fo

    Data: your church will be gone in the next generation. Your religion is now a folk cult that will be eradicated by the state as soon as it has enough votes to do so. Votes made possible by Christian tolerance and universalism. https://t.co/RwfWwuEzVf


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-22 03:28:57 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285778835519217664

    Reply addressees: @VrotherJohn

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285777056178077699

  • Age-Old “Athens and Jerusalem” Aristotelianism (europeans) and Abrahamism (jews)

    Age-Old “Athens and Jerusalem”
    Aristotelianism (europeans) and Abrahamism (jews)

    Philosophy as the religion of the aristocracy (male violence), vs theology as the religion of the peasantry (female undermining)

    Male Political Superpredators vs Female Social Superpredators.

    Reply addressees: @noxaxis1

  • Age-Old “Athens and Jerusalem” Aristotelianism (europeans) and Abrahamism (jews)

    Age-Old “Athens and Jerusalem”
    Aristotelianism (europeans) and Abrahamism (jews)

    Philosophy as the religion of the aristocracy (male violence), vs theology as the religion of the peasantry (female undermining)

    Male Political Superpredators vs Female Social Superpredators.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-22 00:43:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285737286169231360

    Reply addressees: @noxaxis1

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285736241472966656

  • Aristotelianism (truth testimony), Confucianism(harmony, reasonableness), Abraha

    Aristotelianism (truth testimony),
    Confucianism(harmony, reasonableness),
    Abrahamism(deceit, submission)

    LYING (hard)
    https://propertarianinstitute.com/2019/08/24/on-lying-core/

    GSRRM (easy)
    https://propertarianinstitute.com/2019/02/23/definition-gsrm-or-gsrrm/

    BAITING INTO HAZARD (medium)
    https://propertarianinstitute.com/2019/12/14/full-definition-baiting-into-hazard/

    ABRAHAMISM (hard)
    https://propertarianinstitute.com/2020/05/19/the-explanation-of-abrahamism/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-22 00:35:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285735057232199680

    Reply addressees: @noxaxis1

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285732351948066817

  • Aristotelianism (truth testimony), Confucianism(harmony, reasonableness), Abraha

    Aristotelianism (truth testimony),
    Confucianism(harmony, reasonableness),
    Abrahamism(deceit, submission)

    LYING (hard)
    https://t.co/6tqd8cqT5l

    GSRRM (easy)
    https://t.co/5SxYeoRHDj

    BAITING INTO HAZARD (medium)
    https://t.co/jdIMgNClLm

    ABRAHAMISM (hard)
    https://t.co/AZfgxx4Fs6

    Reply addressees: @noxaxis1

  • This is why Judaism, Christianity, Islam in the ancient world, and marxism(Judai

    This is why Judaism, Christianity, Islam in the ancient world, and marxism(Judaism), postmodernism-feminism(Christianity), and Islamism (Islamic fundamentalism) are constructed by the same means(arguments), for the same purpose, differing only in supernatural vs pseudoscientific.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-22 00:23:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285732203104743424

    Reply addressees: @noxaxis1

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1285728739456933890