Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • NIETZSCHE’S MEANING IN “GOD IS DEAD” Nietzsche’s quite clear, at least in his po

    NIETZSCHE’S MEANING IN “GOD IS DEAD” Nietzsche’s quite clear, at least in his po

    NIETZSCHE’S MEANING IN “GOD IS DEAD”
    Nietzsche’s quite clear, at least in his poetic prose, that when he says God is dead, he’s referring to the Christian God, who “is not godlike but pitiable, absurd, harmful, and not merely an error, but a crime against life”.

    For my part I… https://t.co/rk9rVXRSjf


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-12 20:38:56 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789757172445843635

  • WHY DID RELIGIONS EVOLVE? Religions arose for a good reason in the age of transf

    WHY DID RELIGIONS EVOLVE?
    Religions arose for a good reason in the age of transformation – whenever population density reaches a point where importance to others, clan differences and class differences emerge and alienatino results we require religion. Where originally religion evolved out of the intersection of burial and feast, and formal religion evolved out of the generalization to all of the initiatic brotherhood of warriors. All of these: burial, feast, male adulthood, and the initiatic brotherhood of warriors are bondings that reduce the alienation that occurs with maturity and need for self responsibility.

    Reply addressees: @Xene1042 @whatifalthist


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-12 18:22:13 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789722764418433024

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  • THE BEAUTY OF AN INTANGIBLE GOD The beauty of an intangible god is that we do no

    THE BEAUTY OF AN INTANGIBLE GOD
    The beauty of an intangible god is that we do not need to agree if god is external to the universe, the universe itself, a product of the universe, a product of mankind, a product of a population of people or a product of the individual mind.
    All we need agree upon is the morals that god demands, would demand, or could demand from us for our own individual and collective good, and then we are able to find comfort and utility in life, wether experience god via some approximation of dreams, through context of ritual, through some sense of intuition, through comportment with tradition, or with rational understanding of the morals, traditions, rituals and institutions in producing mindfulness harmony and cooperation among people.
    The only problem arises when on claims knowledge one does not and cannot posses in order to mandate beliefs rather than demand adherence to moral behavior we should have obtained by discipline and saturation in the religion’s traditions.
    Hugs
    CD

    Reply addressees: @Xene1042 @whatifalthist


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-12 17:53:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789715610747727872

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  • Judaism (slave revolt against greek and roman rule), christianity (slave revolt

    Judaism (slave revolt against greek and roman rule), christianity (slave revolt against roman rule) islam (slave revolt against tribal leaders) are all just underclass revolts, not the product of elites. Instead, elites captured these movements and adapted to use them,


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-11 22:03:28 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789416057838415948

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  • Why did humans find such benefit in gods? But more importantly, ‘god’ as an auth

    Why did humans find such benefit in gods? But more importantly, ‘god’ as an authority that provided decidability independent of individual ‘leaders’ opinions.

    A standard of behavioral weights and measures for illiterate uneducated people, that can most easily undrstand. https://twitter.com/curtdoolittle/status/1789410475878281637

  • Religions Contain Truth But Their Wisdom Literature Is Propaganda – And That’s O

    Religions Contain Truth But Their Wisdom Literature Is Propaganda – And That’s OK.

    ~~”I am not here to discredit the faith.” … “The bible is a work of ideology” … “Reading the bible with a critical eye teaches respect for the ingenuity of the authors of the work in teaching so many people despite their culture, ability, age, literacy, and education.” … ~~”Give the authors their due.”– Prof Israel Finkelstein
    He’s correct of course. As such we can obtain the spiritual meaning from the text as we do from any other mythology or mythological history, without requiring that the historical claims are factual as much as ideological explanations and justifications that help us derive the proper spiritual meaning and resulting moral behavior, that the authors intended.
    While Chinese philosophy like European philosophy, like the formalization of post-bronze-age-collapse semitic religions, all developed around the same time. With the abrahamic the ‘last’ in that series, because it was largely a counter-revolution against the Indo-European, and especially Greek and roman superiority in technology, military, politics, and philosophy.
    The Chinese were less technical than the europeans for reasons we are not quite sure, but were partly to do with the lack of western law of peerage and lack of European low context high precision language, appear to have produced the resulting impossibility of forming a rule of law government, and finally, some rather odd challenges that emerge with the Chinese language which is high context and low precision.
    The Europeans invented rational philosophy. But the europeans evolved formal civilization thousands of years after the middle east had developed civilization. The earlier fertile crescent civilization relied on an older technology that could not depend upon education and writing, and exclusively dependent upon illiteracy and storytellling to teach people the moral lessons necessary to ‘get along in peace and harmony’.
    So the fertile crescent developed submissive mythicism as their source of authoritarian literature(Priests), the Chinese developed the philosophy of harmony as their source (States), and the europeans developed philosophical darwinian competition through argumentative reason (Courts).
    Those of us that study comparative civilizations, perhaps more than those that study comparative religion, see the necessity of variations in civilizational (race) wisdom literature by these various Paradigms Vocabularies, Grammars, logics. We seek what is good in each, and to elimnate what is false, foolish, or harmful in each.
    The result of course is the Natural Law of Cooperation (self determination, self determined means, sovereignty, reciprocity and tort). Which, of course, given that Europeans developed the paradigm, grammar, vocabulary, and logic necessary for its discovery and articulation, is merely another example of the tendency of europeans, precisely because of the construction of our wisdom literatures.
    First mover is not always best Last mover has an advantage in that one can learn from the mistakes of those that came before you and thus not pay the high and oft impossible cost of overcoming the entrenched metaphysics, institutions, traditions, norms, values, and yes, language and wisdom literature that exists already.
    The best example of this is the abrahamic religions’ revolt against the conquest by greece, rome, and persia, – the indo europeans – by their immitation of the persian religion, and the imitation of the european law in teh torah, and the imitation of the greco roman epic cycle, in the produciton of an anti-hero in jesus in the bible.
    Everything comes from somewhere. Evolution in retrospect is rather obvious. šŸ˜‰
    Cheers
    CD

    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-11 20:13:28 UTC

    Original post: https://x.com/i/articles/1789388375377559888

  • ~~”I am not here to discredit the faith.” … “The bible is a work of ideology”

    ~~”I am not here to discredit the faith.” … “The bible is a work of ideology” … “Reading the bible with a critical eye teaches respect for the ingenuity of the authors of the work in teaching so many people despite their culture, ability, age, literacy, and education.” … ~~”Give the authors their due.”– Prof Israel Finkelstein

    He’s correct of course. As such we can obtain the spiritual meaning from the text as we do from any other mythology or mythological history, without requiring that the historical claims are factual as much as ideological explanations and justifications that help us derive the proper spiritual meaning and resulting moral behavior, that the authors intended.

    While Chinese philosophy like European philosophy, like the formalization of post-bronze-age-collapse semitic religions, all developed around the same time. With the abrahamic the ‘last’ in that series, because it was largely a counter-revolution against the Indo-European, and especially Greek and roman superiority in technology, military, politics, and philosophy.

    The Chinese were less technical than the europeans for reasons we are not quite sure, but were partly to do with the lack of western law of peerage and lack of European low context high precision language, appear to have produced the resulting impossibility of forming a rule of law government, and finally, some rather odd challenges that emerge with the Chinese language which is high context and low precision.

    The Europeans invented rational philosophy. But the europeans evolved formal civilization thousands of years after the middle east had developed civilization. The earlier fertile crescent civilization relied on an older technology that could not depend upon education and writing, and exclusively dependent upon illiteracy and storytellling to teach people the moral lessons necessary to ‘get along in peace and harmony’.

    So the fertile crescent developed submissive mythicism as their source of authoritarian literature(Priests), the Chinese developed the philosophy of harmony as their source (States), and the europeans developed philosophical darwinian competition through argumentative reason (Courts).

    Those of us that study comparative civilizations, perhaps more than those that study comparative religion, see the necessity of variations in civilizational (race) wisdom literature by these various Paradigms Vocabularies, Grammars, logics. We seek what is good in each, and to elimnate what is false, foolish, or harmful in each.

    The result of course is the Natural Law of Cooperation (self determination, self determined means, sovereignty, reciprocity and tort). Which, of course, given that Europeans developed the paradigm, grammar, vocabulary, and logic necessary for its discovery and articulation, is merely another example of the tendency of europeans, precisely because of the construction of our wisdom literatures.

    First mover is not always best Last mover has an advantage in that one can learn from the mistakes of those that came before you and thus not pay the high and oft impossible cost of overcoming the entrenched metaphysics, institutions, traditions, norms, values, and yes, language and wisdom literature that exists already.

    The best example of this is the abrahamic religions’ revolt against the conquest by greece, rome, and persia, – the indo europeans – by their immitation of the persian religion, and the imitation of the european law in teh torah, and the imitation of the greco roman epic cycle, in the produciton of an anti-hero in jesus in the bible.

    Everything comes from somewhere. Evolution in retrospect is rather obvious. šŸ˜‰

    Cheers

    CD


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-11 20:11:44 UTC

    Original post: https://x.com/i/articles/1789387938431729665

  • I would argue that @Whatifalthist finds no conflict between spirituality, god, a

    I would argue that @Whatifalthist finds no conflict between spirituality, god, and truth. I believe, tho I am not certain, that his personal spiritual journey, combined with knowledge of so much human history, society, and religion, and his ability empathize with people in all those places and times, has given him an insight and intuition into spirituality(universal), god(general), and religion (particular) that finds value in context for all variations, and as such his concepts in each of these domains are something like the synthesis and distillation that separates the universal and general from the particular of dogma and scripture. Now, I call that science and truth for mind (reason, conscious), and religion and wisdom literature for the spirit (intuition, subconscious). And at the same time I do recognize that this is an achieved ‘harmony’ that requires a great deal of work and ability similar to that which our most disciplined faithful, and most disciplined empiricists have accomplished in history.

    Affections

    (I’m the same by the way, though my ambitions are less personal, social and civilizational, and more economic, judicial, political, and geostrategic. Priests vs Kings and all that kind of division of labor. šŸ˜‰ )

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    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-10 18:42:32 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789003102885982208

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  • “Q: CURT: What is a non-false religion”– First, what does a religion consist of

    –“Q: CURT: What is a non-false religion”–
    First, what does a religion consist of? A religion suppresses neuroticism and conflict among social animals by conveying a group evolutionary strategy as a standard of weights and measures in and across generations, using the simplest form of memory retention, and most general system of measurement: storytelling using archetypes.
    So religions consist of a group evolutionary strategy, a set of metaphysical presumptions about man, nature, and the relations between, a mythos to communicated it, a system of argument to persist and defend it, and a network of rituals both for the individual, the family, and the polity, by way of the sacred (debt, thanks, and respect), the feast, and the festival, each of which reduces one another to a temporary equality, providing what we call ‘the spiritual’ which is the surrender the self to the pack biological response.
    Most religions in the past have produced these necessities by lying. This is no longer advantageous because it is decreasingly possible. Only a minority of the population is possessed of personality traits open to submission, and worse, nder mass education these superstitions and occultisms, sophistries and pseudosciences are increasingly difficult – and at present only persist due to possibility of family and social indoctrination.
    So effectively the world is searching for a non-false religion. And teh only non-false religion is stoicism (which is just behavioral modification). But it is too psychologically costly for all but the middle to upper classes, and is extremely difficult for women in particular.
    That does not mean we cannot produce some intersection of stoicism and the four agreements for the individual, secular humanism as a philosophy, and nature, ethnicity, polity, ancestor, and hero worship which are the only true debts we have to respect, pay off, and transfer to the following generations.

    Cheers
    CD

    Reply addressees: @HakeemDemi


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-10 17:56:27 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788991505387995136

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  • I have a pretty thorough knowledge of the population of people competent to hold

    I have a pretty thorough knowledge of the population of people competent to hold a debate on the virtues of the abrahamic religions, and the argument comes down to their claim that religion is good for people, and mine that a non false religion is much better for people, because false religions like alcoholism and drug addiction produce negative externalities.

    Here is the simple version: any population with an average IQ of less than around 115 (pre-industrial revolution england) will include a sufficient portion of the population that requires the most simplistic formation of moral ethical and normative rules.

    The evidence is rather stark that religions are dying in the west but that the underclass is switching to state dependency especially the more influence women have in the polities.

    So for the good of all, it appears that a new religion is possible, somewhat like secular humanism combined with stoicism, or some equivalent transformation of christian charity and natural law, into a natural religion that gives homage (debt) to nature, our people, our ancestors and heroes.

    Because the whole point of the abrahamic religions is sedition against the meritocratic masculine.

    Reply addressees: @HakeemDemi


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-10 17:20:58 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788982576125788160

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