(cross posted for reference) (insights) (important) METHODS Methods of justification for libertarianism (or any other political and moral bias) 1) Sentimental (I like it) 2) Moral (it’s better) 3) Historical (it works) 4) Empirical (direct experimentation) 5) Economic (indirect experimentation) 6) Ratio-scientific (cumulative evidence and theory) TWO SOURCES OF LIBERTARIAN THOUGHT 1) Conservative and Classical Liberal Land holders (christian) 2) Anarchic and religious non-land holders (jewish/gypsies) FOUR SOCIAL STRUCTURES 1) German (Kant/hierarchical/duty/nuclear family) 2) French ( Rousseau/equalitarian/care/traditional family) 3) British (smith-hume+ / aristocratic egalitarian / empirical/ absolute nuclear family) 4) Jewish (ricardo-mises-rothbard/tribalism) FOUR AMBITIONS 1) The british saw free trade as an international means of achieving peace and prosperity for all europeans. 2) The germans were trying to resist british consumerism’s disruption of ‘social order’ implicit in german ‘duty’. 3) The french were trying to extend the family to all of society, and demonstrate their nobility having failed to conquer Europe. (The failures of the world wars and transformation from demonstrated material achievement, to the use of generosity and diversity to maintain status, explain current european behavior.) 4) The jews were and are, trying to justify their participation in a host society without integrating. THE ANSWER There are two basic reasons for ‘tolerance’ in the libertarian movement. 1) Jewish authors justifying right to inclusion but denial of the necessity of payment into the commons. 2) christian authors arguing for payment only into non monopolistic commons, while retaining a homogenous moral commons. 3) feminist and postmodernist influences. DOMINANCE OF JEWISH THOUGHT I think that Rothbard brought his heritage to the table (just as Hayek stated of Mises) and he conflated the two ambitions. This is actually, the reason why rothbard failed to give us a morally tolerable libertarianism. And it is why libertarianism fails to gain traction. Humans are tribal. Immigration is a political problem. And human seek political power. So it is better to have a homogenous, liberty seeking people, for whom no seizure of power is of any group benefit, because the group is already in power. And there is no incentive for status achievement, because in a homogenous society, there is no status value to trying to gain power. HOPPE’S CORRECTION Hoppe, through admittedly interesting logic, has shown that rothbard was wrong. I have I think, with rather scientific rather than purely rational terms, demonstrated that Rothbard was wrong. CHRISTIAN ARGUMENT There is a very great difference between ‘we will not fight despite our differences if we trade’ and ‘we are all equal and can politically cohabitate without conflict’. Politics is a family matter. Trade is a cross-family matter. We can easily trade, but we cannot be politically diverse without replacing conflict over trade with conflict over politics. ROTHBARD WAS WRONG. THE STATUS ECONOMY RULES. We don’t ‘need’ much as human beings, except to hold onto our status, improve our status, and prevent loss of status. Loss aversion is more applicable to status than any other human trait except perhaps life and limb. We accumulate status, and desperately hold onto it.
Category: Politics, Power, and Governance
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um… we're libertarians.
Um…. We’re libertarians. It’s not just that we have the best political philosophy. It’s not just that we have the best articulated political philosophy. It’s not just that our political philosophy corresponds to human behavior as it is, rather than as we wish it was. It’s not just that we’ve solved the problem of formal institutions. Its not just that our political philosophy is a system for achieving economic prosperity that humans demonstrably prefer. It’s not just that everyone seems to prefer to live in more libertarian countries. It’s that, other than the marxists, we’re the ONLY political position that has an articulated political and economic philosophy; it’s that we have the ONLY political philosophy corresponds with the human beings as humans actually ACT in real life; and it’s that we have the ONLY political philosophy that’s solved the problem of monopoly bureaucracy and formal institutions; it’s that we have the ONLY articulated philosophy that gives precedence to prosperity instead of power. It’s hard being the only rational person standing. People aren’t rational tho. Their moral. At least. In their own terms.
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um… we’re libertarians.
Um…. We’re libertarians. It’s not just that we have the best political philosophy. It’s not just that we have the best articulated political philosophy. It’s not just that our political philosophy corresponds to human behavior as it is, rather than as we wish it was. It’s not just that we’ve solved the problem of formal institutions. Its not just that our political philosophy is a system for achieving economic prosperity that humans demonstrably prefer. It’s not just that everyone seems to prefer to live in more libertarian countries. It’s that, other than the marxists, we’re the ONLY political position that has an articulated political and economic philosophy; it’s that we have the ONLY political philosophy corresponds with the human beings as humans actually ACT in real life; and it’s that we have the ONLY political philosophy that’s solved the problem of monopoly bureaucracy and formal institutions; it’s that we have the ONLY articulated philosophy that gives precedence to prosperity instead of power. It’s hard being the only rational person standing. People aren’t rational tho. Their moral. At least. In their own terms.
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um… we're libertarians.
Um…. We’re libertarians. It’s not just that we have the best political philosophy. It’s not just that we have the best articulated political philosophy. It’s not just that our political philosophy corresponds to human behavior as it is, rather than as we wish it was. It’s not just that we’ve solved the problem of formal institutions. Its not just that our political philosophy is a system for achieving economic prosperity that humans demonstrably prefer. It’s not just that everyone seems to prefer to live in more libertarian countries. It’s that, other than the marxists, we’re the ONLY political position that has an articulated political and economic philosophy; it’s that we have the ONLY political philosophy corresponds with the human beings as humans actually ACT in real life; and it’s that we have the ONLY political philosophy that’s solved the problem of monopoly bureaucracy and formal institutions; it’s that we have the ONLY articulated philosophy that gives precedence to prosperity instead of power. It’s hard being the only rational person standing. People aren’t rational tho. Their moral. At least. In their own terms.
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um… we’re libertarians.
Um…. We’re libertarians. It’s not just that we have the best political philosophy. It’s not just that we have the best articulated political philosophy. It’s not just that our political philosophy corresponds to human behavior as it is, rather than as we wish it was. It’s not just that we’ve solved the problem of formal institutions. Its not just that our political philosophy is a system for achieving economic prosperity that humans demonstrably prefer. It’s not just that everyone seems to prefer to live in more libertarian countries. It’s that, other than the marxists, we’re the ONLY political position that has an articulated political and economic philosophy; it’s that we have the ONLY political philosophy corresponds with the human beings as humans actually ACT in real life; and it’s that we have the ONLY political philosophy that’s solved the problem of monopoly bureaucracy and formal institutions; it’s that we have the ONLY articulated philosophy that gives precedence to prosperity instead of power. It’s hard being the only rational person standing. People aren’t rational tho. Their moral. At least. In their own terms.
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The Reason You Use The Word ‘liberty’ And Not ‘aristocracy’?
Because you are carrying around the enlightenment error that anyone other than egalitarian aristocracy actually desires liberty. They don’t. Aristocracy: 1) Private Property Rights in exchange for contributing Perpetual Military Service in the defense of private property rights of all who have earned them. 2) Egalitarianism: anyone willing to also grant rights and contribute service can also gain those rights by contributing that service. 3) Denial, by promise of violence, of any and all concentration of power sufficient to alter the distribution of property and property rights. 4) The Absolute Nuclear Family and Prohibition on inbreeding. 5) Chivalry: Social Status Through Charity, and service as well as through arms. 6) Decision Making by majority vote of those who have earned property rights. Aristocracy is tribal paternity and property rights, open to all who will equally grant them, and defend them. LIBERTY EXPRESSED AS A ‘RIGHT’ IS AN ATTEMPT TO GAIN PROPERTY RIGHTS AT A DISCOUNT, AND NOTHING ELSE.
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The Reason You Use The Word 'liberty' And Not 'aristocracy'?
Because you are carrying around the enlightenment error that anyone other than egalitarian aristocracy actually desires liberty. They don’t. Aristocracy: 1) Private Property Rights in exchange for contributing Perpetual Military Service in the defense of private property rights of all who have earned them. 2) Egalitarianism: anyone willing to also grant rights and contribute service can also gain those rights by contributing that service. 3) Denial, by promise of violence, of any and all concentration of power sufficient to alter the distribution of property and property rights. 4) The Absolute Nuclear Family and Prohibition on inbreeding. 5) Chivalry: Social Status Through Charity, and service as well as through arms. 6) Decision Making by majority vote of those who have earned property rights. Aristocracy is tribal paternity and property rights, open to all who will equally grant them, and defend them. LIBERTY EXPRESSED AS A ‘RIGHT’ IS AN ATTEMPT TO GAIN PROPERTY RIGHTS AT A DISCOUNT, AND NOTHING ELSE.
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The Reason You Use The Word ‘liberty’ And Not ‘aristocracy’?
Because you are carrying around the enlightenment error that anyone other than egalitarian aristocracy actually desires liberty. They don’t. Aristocracy: 1) Private Property Rights in exchange for contributing Perpetual Military Service in the defense of private property rights of all who have earned them. 2) Egalitarianism: anyone willing to also grant rights and contribute service can also gain those rights by contributing that service. 3) Denial, by promise of violence, of any and all concentration of power sufficient to alter the distribution of property and property rights. 4) The Absolute Nuclear Family and Prohibition on inbreeding. 5) Chivalry: Social Status Through Charity, and service as well as through arms. 6) Decision Making by majority vote of those who have earned property rights. Aristocracy is tribal paternity and property rights, open to all who will equally grant them, and defend them. LIBERTY EXPRESSED AS A ‘RIGHT’ IS AN ATTEMPT TO GAIN PROPERTY RIGHTS AT A DISCOUNT, AND NOTHING ELSE.
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The Reason You Use The Word 'liberty' And Not 'aristocracy'?
Because you are carrying around the enlightenment error that anyone other than egalitarian aristocracy actually desires liberty. They don’t. Aristocracy: 1) Private Property Rights in exchange for contributing Perpetual Military Service in the defense of private property rights of all who have earned them. 2) Egalitarianism: anyone willing to also grant rights and contribute service can also gain those rights by contributing that service. 3) Denial, by promise of violence, of any and all concentration of power sufficient to alter the distribution of property and property rights. 4) The Absolute Nuclear Family and Prohibition on inbreeding. 5) Chivalry: Social Status Through Charity, and service as well as through arms. 6) Decision Making by majority vote of those who have earned property rights. Aristocracy is tribal paternity and property rights, open to all who will equally grant them, and defend them. LIBERTY EXPRESSED AS A ‘RIGHT’ IS AN ATTEMPT TO GAIN PROPERTY RIGHTS AT A DISCOUNT, AND NOTHING ELSE.
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The Two Dark Or Anglo-counter-enlightenment Projects
1) Attack on diversity and equality as a means of preserving our ability to use historical deliberative classical liberal institutions 2) Formulation of alternative institutions that make possible the voluntary cooperation between diverse and unequal people. THE RIGHT IS DOING THE FIRST. I (as a libertarian) AM DOING THE SECOND. THE DARK ENLIGHTENMENT IS NOT REACTIONARY – ITS RADICAL.