Category: Politics, Power, and Governance

  • RT @ahaspel: If you separate Church and State, the State becomes the Church

    RT @ahaspel: If you separate Church and State, the State becomes the Church.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-14 12:39:45 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/885841244735320064

  • Tolerance? Do you mean Convenience or Conviction? Or Empirical(evidentiary) or R

    Tolerance? Do you mean Convenience or Conviction? Or Empirical(evidentiary) or Rational(ideal)? Or Limited or unlimited? Or paid for by you, by others, by past and future generations? Or as a means of cosmopolitanism: destroying our civilization, or as a means of escaping the costs of maintaining our civilization, or as a means of paying a cost of integration into our civilization?

    I mean. Ask those questions.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-14 08:19:00 UTC

  • Who will give up the life of an urban(commons) social democracy for a rural (pri

    Who will give up the life of an urban(commons) social democracy for a rural (private) anarchy? Who has that incentive? What will occur?

    Are you saying manorialism (a market that is capable of being ruled by an individual who makes discretionary choice over the production of capital and institutional investments is best, as long as such an individual market produces sufficient returns to defend such a market.) (iow: a plantation or manor)

    Are you saying a city state (a market that is capable of being run by a collection of individual owners of manors) who make discretionary choices over the production of commons? ( iow: a mall or market town).

    Are you saying a monarchic territory containing at least one if not more urban(commons) markets, where manors (plantations) and oligarchies (corporations), are collectively defended and differences adjudicated by a judge/general of last resort? Where some commons are produced at the manor, city-market, or monarchic-territory level?

    Are you saying an Empire containing many monarchic territories, that provide univorm laws between monarchies, resolve differences between monarchies, and provide defense of all monarchies, (or at least provide the best equipped and largest force) that prevents defectin of any monarchies to escape

    As far as I know, these are only questions of scale of population, scale of productivity, scale of territory, and the discounted cost of pooling resources (Taxes) to pay for (a) consistent internal rules that allow the organization of patterns of sustainable specialization and trade, and (b) adjudication (including forcible) of conflicts between manors, city-markets, and regions; and (c) defense of all of the above – at a profound discount.

    In general, life is cheaper the farther you get from the market. When you get to a borderland you can engage in ‘unpleasant’ activities in exchange for holding territory that no ‘better’ ruler can afford to or desires to administer. And by your occupying that territory in the name of that ‘better’ ruler, you are homesteading it on his behalf. And as such, others are denied access to that borderland without provoking your warfare, and thereby risking the loss of their territories as a consequence.

    The best freedom of choice is available at the farthest distance from value. This is why people all compromise. Some borderland, some rural, some suburban, some urban ring (ghettos), and some urban core (Elites). Cities are plantations.

    What is the difference between {empire, monarchy, city-state, manor, freeman, serf, slave, and barbarian}, AND {Federal government, state, urban city, rural town, middle class, working and laboring class, soldier and underclass?}

    The difference is corporate decidability rather than private decidability. Yes. But that is only possible because the difference beneath that is discretionary rule (arbitrary law), not algorithmic rule (natural law).

    When all men have universal standing in matters of the commons they cannot be ‘taxed’ for what they do not ‘use’. yet others who WANT to produce commons cannot be PREVENTED from producing them as long as they impose no cost on the investments of others.

    However, no one can escape all costs.

    Having failed to solve the problem of politics the libertarians threw the baby of the commons out with the bathwater of discretion.

    Truth is only discovered through competition between the market and the law.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-13 11:08:00 UTC

  • HE WHO BREEDS WINS, HE WHO FIGHTS RULES —“Can you show us where Hoppe says you

    HE WHO BREEDS WINS, HE WHO FIGHTS RULES

    —“Can you show us where Hoppe says you don’t need sovereignty for liberty?”— Rik Storey

    That depends upon whether you mean Sovereignty in Fact, or LEGAL sovereignty in court – sovereignty by permission. Hoppe means the latter. Same for kinsella. And it depends upon whether you wish to imagine you possess a condition of sovereignty, or whether you possess a condition of sovereignty in fact.

    I don’t engage in special pleading. When I say “Sovereignty” I mean “In Fact”, not in legal pretense.

    I haven’t criticized hoppe for his judgement of the morality or right-ness of outcomes (immigration etc) but for his kantian justificationism.

    One cant rely on argumentation ethics until AFTER property is already established since the choices are always fight/prey, flee/non-cooperation, and cooperate. The opposition if stronger does not give you the option he assumes.

    Hoppe’s “Liberty by Commune” strategy is as impossible as communes by both incentive and economic possibility. The opposition is too strong.

    Hoppe’s intersubjectively verifiable property is impossible as both incentive and economic possibility. the opposition is too strong.

    The scope of property is determined by the complexity of invsetment possible, and all sorts of ‘interests’ can be constructed – the institutional production of property rights themselves being an abstract interest we construct.

    What you are doing is simply taking the reverse-appropriation game as did Rothbard. You are redefining sovereignty as libertarianism when libertarianism (communism of the commons) was developed in opposition to sovereignty.

    Libertarianism and Sovereignty Differ substantially, in that libertarians make a positive claim to the limits of property (and engage in fraudulent prose), and Sovereignty

    I mean, until you answer the questions

    1 – “What limits to property are necessary for the survival of a polity in competition with other polities” (none)

    2 – “What is the reason for poly logical law NOT compatible with natural law of reciprocity OTHER than to conduct parasitism?” (none)

    3 – “Can a libertarian polity without mandatory commons survive competition and not simply host parasites and criminals if with the available incentives and the small number of people with libertarian sentiments.” (no.)

    4 – “What is the method of producing those necessary commons?”

    5 – “What is the method of suppressing disincentive to produce commons?”

    The problem is scale of polity and scale of competitors, in other words the problem is population density in relation to geographic productivity.

    Private government (monarchy), with markets for commons (parliaments) under direct democracy(equal interest), multi-house direct democracy(categorical/class interest) or economic democracy (unequal interest), with a professional warrior class and a universal militia (army) provide the means necessary for the formation of commons. But we must produce humans that will serve in that context through training. Whether you name that system of producing women and children “church” or “academy” is merely whether you advocate the deception of abrahamists or the honesty of education. And in that education whether you advocate the deception of the abrahamic conflationary scripture (fictionalism), or the honesty of pagan deflationary myth, literature, and history. As far as I an tell a professional priestly caste seeking compensation for deception(parasitism) is always and everywhere detrimental compared to a professional class that is taught rituals and pays for them himself (sacrifice).

    The church was designed purposefully to disempower the aristocracy so that the western empire could be controlled from the east. There is no liberty in the church. It is all slavery. which is why those areas longest with the church are the lowest trust, and those longest with the aristocracy are the highest.

    You have nowhere to go. I know your feelings tell you something. I know you want to protect those feelings and those investments. I certainly did not expect to end up in the intellectual position I’m in. But I can’t avoid it. Because I want a condition of sovereignty. And the only method possible in modernity and in an ever increasing world,

    You can’t un-invent gunpowder. You can’t uninvent nuclear weapons. The french revolution, napoleon, rothschild’ credit, and marxism/postmodernism destroyed europe. Because the princedoms could not militarily resist napoleon. Only the USA could afford to invent the atom bomb.

    SO what can we do today given density and power to construct a condition of sovereignty such that ordinary people can experience a condition of liberty?

    Small homogenous monarchic (semi-private) nation-states, natural law, market government, militia, and nuclear weapons, intertemporal borrowing and lending between the generations, a reformed (de-abrahamic) academy, and reciprocal insurance. Such states are impossible to defeat but lack the resources to expand.

    NO WORD GAMES

    I fight against all sorts of word games. Even well intentioned ones. “Libertarianism” evolved like marxism and postmodernism out of french libertinism and jewish separatism, in whch the normative and physical commons were rejected, and only private property and self protected. In other words, parasitism upon the commons. It’s an immaturity. a childhood. a continuing parasitism upon others. a failure to ‘pay one’s way’.

    Puritanism does NOT reject the commons, but instead, expands and enforces it.

    Americans imported this libertine technique particularly after the civil war. In the 50’s and 60’s H——-? (name is escaping me) started using ‘libertarian’. Rothbard took it from him and expanded upon it. Rothbardians then ‘claimed’ the term (appropriated it.). And they cast libertarianism = Rothbardianism.

    But again it’s another catholic > french > Jewish vector just like marxism, postmodernism, neo-conservatism.

    The european common law, the rights of anglo-saxons, the rights of englishmen, the rights of the american constitution always include the Thing (group, polity) in justice and politics, and the monarchy (chieftain) in war. There is no such ‘anti-social’ anything in european history.

    Had hayek not been so fascinated with the term liberty (freedom from), and correctly understood the term sovereignty (freedom to) then he might have prevented the current conflict over terminology.

    But in order to deny free riders on the commons any moral standing, I’m going to keep on message: the test is the scope of property and how you produce commons necessary for the creation and survival of a polity.

    And I’m going to stay on message that given the absence of borderlands, that the only way to obtain a condition of sovereignty is through the organized application of violence. And that those who do not commit to the organized application of violence are just free riding parasites upon those that do. And as such whatever rights they may obtain, will be rights by permission only.

    He who breeds wins. He who fights Rules.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-13 08:44:00 UTC

  • “ARISTOCRACY IS TO POLITY WHAT CAPITALISM IS TO ECONOMY” (brilliant) by Simon St

    “ARISTOCRACY IS TO POLITY WHAT CAPITALISM IS TO ECONOMY”

    (brilliant)

    by Simon Ström

    I disagree with the premise that democratic elections are a market for the best government, and it’s demonstrably untrue unless you believe “real” democracy has yet to be implemented. The theory behind democracies’ producing bad government should be something along the lines that it fixes the weight of suffrage in polity equivalent to a severe price control regime in economy (“communism”), to the detriment of entrepreneurship and economic competitiveness.

    In aristocracy, there is no suffrage except when peers or parties (classes) broker deals between them, and at those times suffrage is by no means fixed to equal per individual, but determined according to the market value of each respective parties’ potential of cooperation, boycott or violence; either ad hoc (gathering of a thing/political marketplace to address a particular issue) or by convention (multi-house parliament/estates). This is the polity equivalent of free-market economy.

    CURT: Clarifying terms:

    ARISTOCRACY: Aristocratic production of COMMONS(meaning government) and RULE by Rule of law by Natural Law by an independent judiciary (a cult of law).

    We conflate Rule(via negativa) and Government(via positiva), Just as the Abrahamists conflate Truth, Law and History with Wisdom, Command and Myth. Truth requires deflation.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-12 11:27:00 UTC

  • THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE AND THE CHOICE CLEAR That truth is quite simple: we will eit

    THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE AND THE CHOICE CLEAR

    That truth is quite simple: we will either, as a permanent minority of moral men, use organized violence to obtain a condition of sovereignty in fact, or we will have neither sovereignty, liberty, or freedom. But expansion of serfdom and slavery in all its forms: pseudo-scientific, pseudo-rational, supernatural deceit-slavery, financial debt slavery, legislative slavery, and redistributive slavery.

    ALl that is required is that we fight, and profit from fighting.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-12 10:48:00 UTC

  • LIBERTARIANISM IS DEAD. ONLY SOVEREIGNTY REMAINS. I mean. Seriously. I killed of

    LIBERTARIANISM IS DEAD. ONLY SOVEREIGNTY REMAINS.

    I mean. Seriously. I killed off the work of Mises, Rothbard, Hoppe, and all variations thereof – except for hoppe’s use of strict construction from property rights which I’ve merely extended. It’s intellectually dead.

    But like all cults it is very hard to kill a malinvestment, because we will cling to the identity and self image we purchased with our malinvestments. So like all false theories, libertarianism will likely die with its *mal-investors*.

    Thankfully there are intellectually honest people left who are more concerned with obtaining a condition of liberty via Sovereignty than they are with preserving malinvestments in a failed theory.

    Thankfully there are always new generations looking for answers that are less false than the answers of the previous generation (just as there those opponents of the truth looking for those more false.)

    What we should look for is legions of ‘libertarians’ who say ‘well that’s what I meant all along’ and some other way to change while preserving their prior investment.

    We already attract the intellectually honest, and scientific rather than justificationary crowd.

    And our function over the next year is to deny ‘neighbors’ who are potential allies the comfort of their self deceptions.

    Through continuous removal of falsehood only truth will remain.

    That truth is quite simple: we will either, as a permanent minority of moral men, use organized violence to obtain a condition of sovereignty in fact, or we will have neither sovereignty, liberty, or freedom – but expansion of serfdom and slavery in all its forms: pseudoscientific, pseudo-rational, supernatural, debt slavery, legislative slavery, and redistributive slavery.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-12 10:47:00 UTC

  • SOVEREIGNTY: WE ARE VASTLY OUTNUMBERED We are vastly out numbered, so we have to

    SOVEREIGNTY: WE ARE VASTLY OUTNUMBERED

    We are vastly out numbered, so we have to use organized violence to suppress all parasitism in order that we preserve our sovereignty. And we have to collect fees for our services because it is a specialized craft.

    The secret of the west’s success is that sovereignty and reciprocity produce rule of natural law, which produces markets from which we can extract fees for to pay for our specialization in all of the above.

    Hence each home, manor, city state, nation consists of a set of markets which preserve our sovereignty – by which a minority can defeat all opponents through more rapid adaptation than any alternative human order.

    It just so happens that this is the most moral occupation ever invented by mankind. And this occupation has been the cause of lifting mankind out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, disease, labor, and tyranny.

    MORAL MEN ARE ALWAYS VASTLY OUTNUMBERED.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-12 09:10:00 UTC

  • “Universal and equal suffrage is a demonic price control regime.”—Simon Ström

    —“Universal and equal suffrage is a demonic price control regime.”—Simon Ström

    (first chuckle-of-brutal-honesty of the day award)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-12 07:59:00 UTC

  • “There are some choices it’s not worth letting you make. “– Ely Harman

    —“There are some choices it’s not worth letting you make. “– Ely Harman


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-12 07:43:00 UTC