[C]OMPARE KINSELLA’S ARGUMENT WITH DOOLITTLE’S KINSELLA ON THE TOM WOODS SHOW
Many admissions of incompleteness, but failure to complete it. DOOLITTLE ON PROPERTARIANISM
This is what completeness looks like. ( I love that Woods is honest. )
[C]OMPARE KINSELLA’S ARGUMENT WITH DOOLITTLE’S KINSELLA ON THE TOM WOODS SHOW
Many admissions of incompleteness, but failure to complete it. DOOLITTLE ON PROPERTARIANISM
This is what completeness looks like. ( I love that Woods is honest. )
[C]OMPARE KINSELLA’S ARGUMENT WITH DOOLITTLE’S KINSELLA ON THE TOM WOODS SHOW
Many admissions of incompleteness, but failure to complete it. DOOLITTLE ON PROPERTARIANISM
This is what completeness looks like. ( I love that Woods is honest. )
“QUESTION:” CURT: DO YOU HAVE A SIMPLE VERSION OF THIS TALK?” Sure. Or, I’ll try hard. wink emoticon 1) The “NAP” that only limits physical aggression leaves open “trickery and deceit’ as well as ‘free riding parasitism’ and ‘conspiracy’. And by leaving open these forms of aggression, the NAP cannot produce property rights, an anarchic polity, or a condition of liberty. 2) It is irrational for other than career criminals to prefer membership in a polity with the high transaction costs and high opportunity costs, and high risk due to trickery and conspiracy over one in which trickery, deceit, and conspiracy are permitted. And this is why no such economic polity exists. 3) But a definition of aggression that includes physical, trickery and deceit, free riding parasitism, and conspiracy can produce property rights, an anarchic polity, and a condition of liberty. Because it is rational to prefer an anarchic polity free of these forms of parasitism over one that has much higher costs. 4) So Rothbardian Non Aggression against ‘physical property’ can’t create a condition of liberty, while classical liberal Non Aggression against ‘demonstrated property’ can create a condition of liberty. 5) What is demonstrated property? Anything you have homesteaded or obtained through productive, fully informed, voluntary exchange, and without imposing costs upon the demonstrated property of others. 6) What do people demonstrate as their property? Life, Kin, Mate, Friends, Allies, physical property, territory, built capital, norms, and institutions. 7) What Exceptions are there? Communities produce opportunities by virtue of population density and cooperation in a division of labor while using property rights, and expect members to homestead those opportunities. We call this process of homesteading opportunities ‘competition’. This creating of common opportunities and homesteading them is what produces the virtuous cycle that makes cities (markets) so productive. 8) So how do we create liberty? We create liberty by reciprocal insurance of one another’s demonstrated property from transgression by others, thereby creating the first commons: property rights, or what we loosely call ‘cooperation’. 9) This argument kills the idea of individualism per se and instead states that all rights are possessed by individuals but rights can only be created by an organized polity willing to construct them by reciprocal insurance of one another’s demonstrated property from the imposition of costs. The rest of the talk is largely a criticism of why the NAP failed, and why Rothbard came up with it for cultural reasons. And how the reason he didn’t complete the NAP or write it operationally was to circumvent the logical conclusion that with greater articulation his attempt to avoid payment for the commons would have been exposed.
“QUESTION:” CURT: DO YOU HAVE A SIMPLE VERSION OF THIS TALK?” Sure. Or, I’ll try hard. wink emoticon 1) The “NAP” that only limits physical aggression leaves open “trickery and deceit’ as well as ‘free riding parasitism’ and ‘conspiracy’. And by leaving open these forms of aggression, the NAP cannot produce property rights, an anarchic polity, or a condition of liberty. 2) It is irrational for other than career criminals to prefer membership in a polity with the high transaction costs and high opportunity costs, and high risk due to trickery and conspiracy over one in which trickery, deceit, and conspiracy are permitted. And this is why no such economic polity exists. 3) But a definition of aggression that includes physical, trickery and deceit, free riding parasitism, and conspiracy can produce property rights, an anarchic polity, and a condition of liberty. Because it is rational to prefer an anarchic polity free of these forms of parasitism over one that has much higher costs. 4) So Rothbardian Non Aggression against ‘physical property’ can’t create a condition of liberty, while classical liberal Non Aggression against ‘demonstrated property’ can create a condition of liberty. 5) What is demonstrated property? Anything you have homesteaded or obtained through productive, fully informed, voluntary exchange, and without imposing costs upon the demonstrated property of others. 6) What do people demonstrate as their property? Life, Kin, Mate, Friends, Allies, physical property, territory, built capital, norms, and institutions. 7) What Exceptions are there? Communities produce opportunities by virtue of population density and cooperation in a division of labor while using property rights, and expect members to homestead those opportunities. We call this process of homesteading opportunities ‘competition’. This creating of common opportunities and homesteading them is what produces the virtuous cycle that makes cities (markets) so productive. 8) So how do we create liberty? We create liberty by reciprocal insurance of one another’s demonstrated property from transgression by others, thereby creating the first commons: property rights, or what we loosely call ‘cooperation’. 9) This argument kills the idea of individualism per se and instead states that all rights are possessed by individuals but rights can only be created by an organized polity willing to construct them by reciprocal insurance of one another’s demonstrated property from the imposition of costs. The rest of the talk is largely a criticism of why the NAP failed, and why Rothbard came up with it for cultural reasons. And how the reason he didn’t complete the NAP or write it operationally was to circumvent the logical conclusion that with greater articulation his attempt to avoid payment for the commons would have been exposed.
“QUESTION:” CURT: DO YOU HAVE A SIMPLE VERSION OF THIS TALK?”
Sure. Or, I’ll try hard. 😉
1) The “NAP” that only limits physical aggression leaves open “trickery and deceit’ as well as ‘free riding parasitism’ and ‘conspiracy’. And by leaving open these forms of aggression, the NAP cannot produce property rights, an anarchic polity, or a condition of liberty.
2) It is irrational for other than career criminals to prefer membership in a polity with the high transaction costs and high opportunity costs, and high risk due to trickery and conspiracy over one in which trickery, deceit, and conspiracy are permitted. And this is why no such economic polity exists.
3) But a definition of aggression that includes physical, trickery and deceit, free riding parasitism, and conspiracy can produce property rights, an anarchic polity, and a condition of liberty. Because it is rational to prefer an anarchic polity free of these forms of parasitism over one that has much higher costs.
4) So Rothbardian Non Aggression against ‘physical property’ can’t create a condition of liberty, while classical liberal Non Aggression against ‘demonstrated property’ can create a condition of liberty.
5) What is demonstrated property? Anything you have homesteaded or obtained through productive, fully informed, voluntary exchange, and without imposing costs upon the demonstrated property of others.
6) What do people demonstrate as their property? Life, Kin, Mate, Friends, Allies, physical property, territory, built capital, norms, and institutions.
7) What Exceptions are there? Communities produce opportunities by virtue of population density and cooperation in a division of labor while using property rights, and expect members to homestead those opportunities. We call this process of homesteading opportunities ‘competition’. This creating of common opportunities and homesteading them is what produces the virtuous cycle that makes cities (markets) so productive.
8) So how do we create liberty? We create liberty by reciprocal insurance of one another’s demonstrated property from transgression by others, thereby creating the first commons: property rights, or what we loosely call ‘cooperation’.
9) This argument kills the idea of individualism per se and instead states that all rights are possessed by individuals but rights can only be created by an organized polity willing to construct them by reciprocal insurance of one another’s demonstrated property from the imposition of costs.
The rest of the talk is largely a criticism of why the NAP failed, and why Rothbard came up with it for cultural reasons. And how the reason he didn’t complete the NAP or write it operationally was to circumvent the logical conclusion that with greater articulation his attempt to avoid payment for the commons would have been exposed.
Source date (UTC): 2016-01-10 04:25:00 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imc_kETTSlQPROPERTARIANISM – REPAIRING THE FALLACY OF NON AGGRESSION
New Video from The Propertarian Institute
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OUTLINE
PART ONE – OBVERSE: FROM AGGRESSION TO NON AGGRESSION
Criticism may identify a problem, but only solutions are actionable.
But falsehoods are cheaper to produce than truths.
Certain falsehoods are very resistant to refutation.
I want to restore truth and liberty to the west
only the west can produce truth and liberty
the west has been disproportionately beneficial to mankind for having invented truth and liberty.
There are falsehoods, and heavily invested falsehoods that we must refute because they hinder the restitution of truth and liberty.
And one of those falsehoods is the so called Non-Aggression Principle
A half truth, the purpose of which is not to create liberty, but to justify sophisticated parasitism.
IF YOU FOLLOW MY WORK – YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ENLIGTHENMENT FALLACIES
The Enlightenment Fallacies:
1 – anglo empiricism and the aristocracy of everyone (hobbes/locke/etc).
2 – french moralism (rousseau) and the equality of everyone.
3 – german rationalism (kant and the german philosophers)
4 – cosmopolitan pseudoscience “the second great lie” (boaz, marx, freud, cantor, mises, [horkimer,adorno,fromm,marcuse], rand, rothbard)
Followed by:
5 – Anglo NeoPuritanism/Postmodernism/Feminism
Each culture attempted to state its group evolutionary strategy as a universal good, and to state that man’s nature in the state of nature justified their group evolutionary strategy.
None of these groups are aware that they are engaging in fallacy, wishful thinking, and deception. Other than Gypsies they do so out of cultural habit. Europeans do not understand what they do, and no one else does either.
TWO THEORIES OF LIBERTY
And there are only two substantial bodies of thought for the advancement of liberty: The classical liberal project under the failed assumption of an aristocracy of everyone. But which the classical liberals did not understand as a market for commons where trades occurred between the classes.
And the only substantial argumentative for distorting liberty: Rothbardian cosmopolitan libertinism.
Libertinism is not an offshoot of classical liberalism or correctly, libertarianism. But of eastern European cosmopolitan anarchism as it existed in the border territories under Lithuanian, Polish, and Russian Rule.
In other words, under the artificial Crusoe’s island created by the large state. Or more clearly, a very large agrarian ghetto.
Why is this important? Because it was a condition of “Granted Liberty”.
But westerners created condition of “Constructed Liberty”
Its not liberty if one has permission: granted liberty.
Its only a condition of liberty if one has constructed liberty.
So how do we construct a condition of liberty?
THE SPECTRUM OF AGGRESSION AND NON AGGRESSION
So lets try to talk about what makes liberty possible, and how the half truth of aggression fits into the construction of a condition of liberty.
-3) – You can choose to aggress against the property en toto of others. This is called predation. But you must defend yourself against retaliation and extermination. (This is the usual criticism of the islamists – raiding culture.)
-2) – You can choose to aggress against the private and common property but not life of others. This is called thievery. But you will experience retaliation for it. (usual criticism of gypsies – beggar and thief culture)
-1) – You can choose not to aggress against the life and physical property of others but retain the possibility of parasitic existence through deception. But you will experience retaliation. (usual criticism of diasporic jews – deception culture)
0) – You can choose not to aggress against the property en toto of others and by doing so it is almost impossible to invoke retaliation. This is called boycott. But you cannot defend your property en toto, private property, or life from those of superior means who wish to deprive you of it.
+1) – You can engage in productive exchange with others, both benefit and not invoke retaliation. This is called trade. But you cannot defend your property en toto, private property, or life from those of superior means who wish to deprive you of it.
+2) – You can engage in reciprocal insurance of others and thereby obtain insurance from them. This is called Liberty. So that you can defend your property en toto, private property, and life from those who wish to deprive you of it.
+3) – You can invest your profits in the commons in exchange for status (increased opportunity and discounts), or productivity (increased returns), and cooperate for the defense of those commons from privatization and destruction. This is called a polity. (Europa)
+4) – You can actively impose property-en-toto upon others both to reduce your costs and to improve your returns. This is called pacification. (Usual example is Late Rome, British Empire, American Empire)
SO FOUR FACTORS ARE SUFFICIENT FOR CONSTRUCTED LIBERTY
1 – Non Aggression against property-en-toto (demonstrated property), is sufficient for non-retaliation.
2 – Reciprocal insurance of property-en-toto is sufficient for defense and the formation of a polity.
3 – Contribution to the commons is sufficient for obtaining compound intergenerational returns.
4 – Pacification is sufficient for the evolution of man and his civilization.
PART II – CRITICISM OF THE HALF TRUTH
The Fallacy of the Sufficiency of Non violence against physical property.
The Evolutionary Strategy Constituent In The Fallacy NAP/IVP as parasitic.
The Purpose of the NAP/IVP is Parasitism, theft, free riding, not liberty.
—“But the NAP is just a ….means of individual choice!!!!”—
Then if NAP is just a means of individual choice, and not a moral proposition, then why would one choose to avoid moral choices? Except to act immorally? Which is my criticism. The NAP was adopted by rothbard as a half truth in order to perpetuate ghetto ethics.
It is insufficient for a personal determination of rational action.
It is insufficient for interpersonal moral decidability.
And it is insufficient for a political basis for law.
And its insufficient for the basis of anarchic polity, and therefore it is insufficient for the basis of liberty.
So if it is insufficient for each of these criteria: decision, non-retaliation, and economic and political cooperation, and sufficient basis of cooperation for the formation of a voluntary polity in the absence of the state as method of decidability… then what is it’s function other than to allow one to engage in deceits?
So the NAP is a fraud by suggestion, just as I have stated, because it is nothing more than an attempt to escape paying the high cost of liberty, through the mutual defense of one another’s property-en-toto from the imposition of costs, by organized application of violence to demand and enforce restitution for those costs.
So it’s not just that the NAP is insufficient for moral action, it is that the NAP is an attempt both to justify parasitism by non violent means, and justify non payment of insurance.
That is not liberty. That’s cunning thievery.
That’s the end you know. You can try all you want. But rothbardian immoralism falsely labeled with the term liberty is merely another great cosmopolitan lie.
LIBERTY
Liberty is not obtained by individual choice alone, but by mutual insurance that we will not impose costs upon that which has been obtained by others by means of homesteading of opportunities, and the consequent productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfer free of imposition of cost upon that which others have obtained by the same means.
Liberty is produced only when we use the organized application of violence to deny humans survival by any means other than that which fosters cooperation.
There are no free rides. Everyone fights. No one quits. If you quit, then you live by someone else’s permission, not by liberty.
CLOSING
Source date (UTC): 2016-01-09 21:34:00 UTC
New Video Rendering. Trying to end the NAP Fraud forever. 37 minutes. Pretty thorough. Just me no interviewer. Not sure that’s so good.
Not sure it’s going to convert as many libertarians as I want to but it’s going to give them nowhere to run. If there was anywhere left to run anyway.
Makes me so painfully aware that I”m in the same mental construct as David Gordon. Because I hear his speech pattern and mental processing in my own voice. I hoped I was less nerdy. I tried very hard to be less nerdy. lol Or maybe that speech pattern is a necessary byproduct of analytic argument. That’s possible. But I won’t give myself that out. lol
Source date (UTC): 2016-01-09 13:06:00 UTC
WHY THE NAP/IVP IS JUSTIFICATION FOR THIEVERY AND FRAUD
—“you remove the NAP from the class of individual choice”—
Then if NAP is just a means of individual choice, and not a moral proposition, then why would one choose to avoid moral choices? Except to act immorally? Which is my criticism. The NAP was adopted by rothbard as a half truth in order to perpetuate ghetto ethics.
It’s a logical box. You wont’ get out of it. Rothbardianism is objectively immoral.
It is insufficient for a personal determination of rational action. It is insufficient for interpersonal moral decidability. And it is insufficient for a political basis for law. And its insufficient for the basis of anarchic polity, and therefore it is insufficient for the basis of liberty.
So if it is insufficient for each of these criteria: decision, non-retaliation, and economic and political cooperation, and sufficient basis of cooperation for the formation of a voluntary polity in the absence of the state as method of decidability… then what is it’s function other than to allow one to engage in deceits?
So the NAP is a fraud by suggestion, just as I have stated, because it is nothing more than an attempt to escape paying the high cost of liberty, through the mutual defense of one another’s property-en-toto from the imposition of costs, by organized application of violence to demand and enforce restitution for those costs.
So it’s not just that the NAP is insufficient for moral action, it is that the NAP is an attempt both to justify parasitism by non violent means, and justify non payment of insurance.
That is not liberty. That’s cunning thievery.
That’s the end you know. You can try all you want. But rothbardian immoralism falsely labeled with the term liberty is merely another great cosmopolitan lie.
Source date (UTC): 2016-01-09 03:53:00 UTC
FROM AGGRESSION TO NON AGGRESSION
This should help people understand how the NAP was a cunning lie.
-3) – You can choose to aggress against the property en toto of others. This is called predation. But you must defend yourself against retaliation and extermination. (Usual criticism of Islamists)
-2) – You can choose to aggress against the private and common property but not life of others. This is called thievery. But you will experience retaliation for it. (usual criticism of gypsies)
-1) – You can choose not to aggress against the life and physical property of others but retain the possibility of parasitic existence through deception. But you will experience retaliation. (usual criticism of jews)
0) – You can choose not to aggress against the property en toto of others and by doing so it is almost impossible to invoke retaliation. This is called boycott. But you cannot defend your property en toto, private property, or life from those of superior means who wish to deprive you of it.
+1) – You can engage in productive exchange with others, both benefit and not invoke retaliation. This is called trade. But you cannot defend your property en toto, private property, or life from those of superior means who wish to deprive you of it.
+2) – You can engage in reciprocal insurance of others and thereby obtain insurance from them. This is called Liberty. So that you can defend your property en toto, private property, and life from those who wish to deprive you of it.
+3) – You can invest your profits in the commons in exchange for status (increased opportunity and discounts), or productivity (increased returns), and cooperate for the defense of those commons from privatization and destruction. This is called a polity. (Europa)
+4) – You can actively impose property-en-toto upon others both to reduce your costs and to improve your returns. This is called pacification. (Usual example is Rome, British Empire, American Empire)
Non Aggression against property-en-toto (demonstrated property), is sufficient for non-retaliation. Reciprocal insurance of property-en-toto is sufficient for defense and the formation of a polity. Contribution to the commons is sufficient for obtaining compound intergenerational returns. Pacification is sufficient for the evolution of civilization.
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
Kiev, Ukraine
Source date (UTC): 2016-01-09 02:54:00 UTC
***A moral man asks questions until he understands. He seeks to understand. An immoral man imposes costs upon others in the hope the others cannot pay those costs, rather than seek the truth. As such cost-imposers are liars and cheats, and thieves.***
Source date (UTC): 2016-01-08 11:08:00 UTC