Category: Natural Law and Reciprocity

  • “You mean that people think we’re proposing authority instead of reciprocity as

    —“You mean that people think we’re proposing authority instead of reciprocity as the only alternative to exerting authority? …. Is it that people don’t or can’t understand – or is it that they don’t want to because they’re addicted to their false narratives? …. I suppose that sort of addiction could be filed under don’t or can’t understand – little agency.”—Alain Dwight

    —“No, I just mean that people who little or no familiarity with P read or hear that we want to punish lie and automatically conclude we want a monopoly of truth just like so many totalitarian movements before. I know I’d think the same if that was all I knew about P.”—Martin Štěpán


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:02:00 UTC

  • I DON”T DO MGTOW, I FIX THE PROBLEM While I understand the sentiment, and unders

    I DON”T DO MGTOW, I FIX THE PROBLEM

    While I understand the sentiment, and understand the need to restore masculinity, I don’t MGTOW – I only do truth, reciprocity, compatibilism, markets, and anti-feminism, anti-marxism, anti-postmodernism, and re-masculinization through restoration of bonding through competition and achievement, and re-militarization to preserve hierarchy in role, equality in value, self sacrifice for the common good.

    You do not see me in MGTOW circles. MGTOW is an expression of withdrawal, in the christian and buddhist models, not an expression of achievement or restoration. The movement exists because men feel they can only achieve individually improvement, instead collective improvement of in civic groups. This again was the product of feminism in eduction, both undermining male boding by competition, and male bonding by military conflict, and male bonding in commercial endeavors, and male bonding in civic improvement.

    MGTOW is the incorrect strategy. Instead it is restoration of male social orders that create male tribal spaces, leaving women to their nesting spaces. We must restore the destruction of male civc organizations by the feminists using the court system, to deprive men of the equivalent of the female brood and her gossip circle of friends.

    We must eliminate the dysgenia of the state incentives to redistribute disproportionate male contribution to state revenues, to disproportionate female consumption of state services, without reciprocal exchange. End common property, alimony, child support, and women must fund ‘women’s issues’ with their revenues. Just as men musts fund ‘mens issues’ with their revenues. Unless they exchange in trades.

    We must restore reciprocity and compatibility. And to do that we must threaten retribution and restitution, by equal and opposite means. Which is how I argue the return to compromise: “We can easily reverse asymmetric female benefit from asymmetric male contribution, so that male asymmetric contribution remains male asymmetric benefit. Or we can compromise and return to exchanges that is the very reason why western women had standing to abuse any asymmetric benefit.

    1. MGTOW to restore male self-care – reconstructive education and therapy.

    2. Teach Stoic Method, Masculine Aryan Virtues-Feminine Christian Values, Epicurean Means

    3. Restore voluntary association and disassociation in law.

    4. Restore men’s sport, military, trade, commercial, and civilc organizations.

    5. De-Financialize the economy, and end consumer interest, to restore working and middle class reproduction, and restore rates of reproduction.

    6. Restore the “church” under secular, traditional, christian-feminine, and pagan-masculine options instead of the academy-state as the central organ of education, family, and family finance, creating the most advanced system of family support ever existing in human history.

    7. Reform academy by limiting it to the teaching of courses in calculative and operationally constructible methods; cause all colleges and universities to warranty their services; cause all colleges and universities to carry any and all student debt – payable within six years; restore the division of grades 8+ to trades, clerical, managerial, professional, entrepreneurial, financial, and scientific specialization. And have children in education overlap ages in this classroom to compensate for different rates of development, or separate into classrooms again by degree of development that masks the fact that the principle difference between us is the tradeoff between rate of physical maturity and rate of leaning increasingly complex content.(and ending stigmas that wrongly stick thru life). Yes we are all in the end different in cognitive complexity we are not different in achievement within our degree of cognitive complexity. This is the issue. We can learn conscientiousness to some degree even if we cannot learn to learn complexity faster.

    8. Restore all production of commons to the sphere of influence and responsibility over the commons, but limiting the federal to it’s functions, state and city-state to its functions, county to its functions, locality to its functions, neighborhood to its functions, and family to its functions and individual to his functions.

    This will restore mutual consideration and care, the civic society only europeans developed, and the high trust civilization upon which all of our privileges both western and across all mankind derived.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 11:58:00 UTC

  • “settlement is sub-optimal”—@JackHwite Refusal of settlement on mutually benef

    —“settlement is sub-optimal”—@JackHwite

    Refusal of settlement on mutually beneficial terms only increases moral license to escalate. 😉

    (I think stuff thru) 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 10:12:00 UTC

  • I DON”T DO MGTOW, I FIX THE PROBLEM While I understand the sentiment, and unders

    I DON”T DO MGTOW, I FIX THE PROBLEM

    While I understand the sentiment, and understand the need to restore masculinity, I don’t MGTOW – I only do truth, reciprocity, compatibilism, markets, and anti-feminism, anti-marxism, anti-postmodernism, and re-masculinization through restoration of bonding through competition and achievement, and re-militarization to preserve hierarchy in role, equality in value, self sacrifice for the common good.

    You do not see me in MGTOW circles. MGTOW is an expression of withdrawal, in the christian and buddhist models, not an expression of achievement or restoration. The movement exists because men feel they can only achieve individually improvement, instead collective improvement of in civic groups. This again was the product of feminism in eduction, both undermining male boding by competition, and male bonding by military conflict, and male bonding in commercial endeavors, and male bonding in civic improvement.

    MGTOW is the incorrect strategy. Instead it is restoration of male social orders that create male tribal spaces, leaving women to their nesting spaces. We must restore the destruction of male civc organizations by the feminists using the court system, to deprive men of the equivalent of the female brood and her gossip circle of friends.

    We must eliminate the dysgenia of the state incentives to redistribute disproportionate male contribution to state revenues, to disproportionate female consumption of state services, without reciprocal exchange. End common property, alimony, child support, and women must fund ‘women’s issues’ with their revenues. Just as men musts fund ‘mens issues’ with their revenues. Unless they exchange in trades.

    We must restore reciprocity and compatibility. And to do that we must threaten retribution and restitution, by equal and opposite means. Which is how I argue the return to compromise: “We can easily reverse asymmetric female benefit from asymmetric male contribution, so that male asymmetric contribution remains male asymmetric benefit. Or we can compromise and return to exchanges that is the very reason why western women had standing to abuse any asymmetric benefit.

    1. MGTOW to restore male self-care – reconstructive education and therapy.

    2. Teach Stoic Method, Masculine Aryan Virtues-Feminine Christian Values, Epicurean Means

    3. Restore voluntary association and disassociation in law.

    4. Restore men’s sport, military, trade, commercial, and civilc organizations.

    5. De-Financialize the economy, and end consumer interest, to restore working and middle class reproduction, and restore rates of reproduction.

    6. Restore the “church” under secular, traditional, christian-feminine, and pagan-masculine options instead of the academy-state as the central organ of education, family, and family finance, creating the most advanced system of family support ever existing in human history.

    7. Reform academy by limiting it to the teaching of courses in calculative and operationally constructible methods; cause all colleges and universities to warranty their services; cause all colleges and universities to carry any and all student debt – payable within six years; restore the division of grades 8+ to trades, clerical, managerial, professional, entrepreneurial, financial, and scientific specialization. And have children in education overlap ages in this classroom to compensate for different rates of development, or separate into classrooms again by degree of development that masks the fact that the principle difference between us is the tradeoff between rate of physical maturity and rate of leaning increasingly complex content.(and ending stigmas that wrongly stick thru life). Yes we are all in the end different in cognitive complexity we are not different in achievement within our degree of cognitive complexity. This is the issue. We can learn conscientiousness to some degree even if we cannot learn to learn complexity faster.

    8. Restore all production of commons to the sphere of influence and responsibility over the commons, but limiting the federal to it’s functions, state and city-state to its functions, county to its functions, locality to its functions, neighborhood to its functions, and family to its functions and individual to his functions.

    This will restore mutual consideration and care, the civic society only europeans developed, and the high trust civilization upon which all of our privileges both western and across all mankind derived.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 09:09:00 UTC

  • HOW WILL P-LAW ON TRUTHFUL AND RECIPROCAL PUBLIC SPEECH AFFECT ME, AND OUR LIVES

    HOW WILL P-LAW ON TRUTHFUL AND RECIPROCAL PUBLIC SPEECH AFFECT ME, AND OUR LIVES?

    We’re decreasing tolerance for, and extending the liability for, the truthfulness and reciprocity we already… https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=495553804374848&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-29 23:03:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1189316798631567360

  • (dark humor) —“If we install P-Law, and truthful speech in public, Can I still

    (dark humor)

    —“If we install P-Law, and truthful speech in public, Can I still troll leftists?”– @MartianHoplite

    —“If you can find any left.”–CD


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-29 21:25:00 UTC

  • Simple Version: You are as responsible for due diligence in what you say in publ

    Simple Version: You are as responsible for due diligence in what you say in public, to the public in matters public, as in testimony before the court, against error, bias, wishful thinking, fraud, and deceit. Leftism is done.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-29 21:21:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1189291216585871360

    Reply addressees: @ironpatriot2016

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1189290949341601792


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @ironpatriot2016 It’s the first section under Rights and Obligations, but it’s in draft format and I’m not sure you’ll understand it. I prefer to write a paragraph for each clause for new people.Go ahead, and ask question, but don’t assume for a minute you understand, or I haven’t thought of it.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1189290949341601792


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @ironpatriot2016 It’s the first section under Rights and Obligations, but it’s in draft format and I’m not sure you’ll understand it. I prefer to write a paragraph for each clause for new people.Go ahead, and ask question, but don’t assume for a minute you understand, or I haven’t thought of it.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1189290949341601792

  • “Lying, fraud, libel, slander, misrepresentation, misleading, suggestion, loadin

    —“Lying, fraud, libel, slander, misrepresentation, misleading, suggestion, loading, framing, obscuring, baiting into hazard, advocacy of, conspiracy of, involuntary transfer, is illegal. All speech is promissory, testimony, and is warrantied, and you’re liable for its consequences.”—Even simpler version


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-29 20:27:00 UTC

  • HOW WILL P-LAW ON TRUTHFUL AND RECIPROCAL PUBLIC SPEECH AFFECT ME, AND OUR LIVES

    HOW WILL P-LAW ON TRUTHFUL AND RECIPROCAL PUBLIC SPEECH AFFECT ME, AND OUR LIVES?

    We’re decreasing tolerance for, and extending the liability for, the truthfulness and reciprocity we already enforce in contracts, selling, marketing and advertising, to all speech in public to the public, on matters of the public, making it impossible for anyone, including you, marketers, professors, intellectuals, media, and politicians, say anything they can’t testify to in court, because it is testifiable, and reciprocal. Meaning you must limit your public speech in public, to the public in matters public, especially for persona, economic or political gains, to what you can demonstrate you know enough to testify to, and that you can demonstrate you are not advocating, encouraging, or causing, the imposition of costs upon others without their fully informed, voluntary exchange. The only objection you can have is if you want engage in false and or irreciprocal speech. This means we will restore libel, slander, harmful gossip (undermining), psychologizing and moralizing (undermining instead of explaining the rational incentives of the people involved), suggestion(implying but not stating), obscurantism (hiding the truth), all left attempts at using the government to take rather than exchange between us, and all left attempts at lying about humans, our psychological, social, economic, and political orders. In other words, it will restore our informational commons to only that which one warrants is not false and not hurtful or harmful, or you will pay the price as if you did so in court. This means you can say whatever you want as long as it’s a constructive, a compromise exchange, helpful, and true. It means you cant say anything that’s destructive, encouraging conspiracy, harmful, and false. Yes the government, the media, advertising, marketing, public intellectuals, professors and teachers can no longer say comforting false things, and that your protection as a consumer made every single person in a company responsible for telling the truth and doing the reciprocal, ethical, moral thing, or they are open to prosecution. Yes it means that there will be a flurry of court cases as we build up a body of law for the many new conditions the law must cover, but this is what we do all the time, and we are very, very good at it. And it is very hard to be found guilty if you have in fact been careful with your words. And of course, no one cares about petty individual slip ups. We all make them. It is however different when it’s in the media, or from a public intellectual or politician attempting to inform the public or frame public discourse.. I suspect a rapid decline in news and a rapid shift in what remains, and that twitter and Facebook will have very serious problems if they are publishers, and as such will shift to platforms. And very quickly we will go back to a much less politicized, much more peaceful, much more prosocial civilization.”


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-29 19:03:00 UTC

  • “You mean that people think we’re proposing authority instead of reciprocity as

    —“You mean that people think we’re proposing authority instead of reciprocity as the only alternative to exerting authority? …. Is it that people don’t or can’t understand – or is it that they don’t want to because they’re addicted to their false narratives? …. I suppose that sort of addiction could be filed under don’t or can’t understand – little agency.”—Alain Dwight

    —“No, I just mean that people who little or no familiarity with P read or hear that we want to punish lie and automatically conclude we want a monopoly of truth just like so many totalitarian movements before. I know I’d think the same if that was all I knew about P.”—Martin Štěpán


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-29 18:28:00 UTC