Category: Natural Law and Reciprocity

  • RT @ThruTheHayes: THERE ARE SOLUTIONS The @NatLawInstitute has produced them. Th

    RT @ThruTheHayes: THERE ARE SOLUTIONS

    The @NatLawInstitute has produced them. The follow-through required to produce a lawful, pro-social,…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-31 18:20:20 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1874158665286255029

  • CORRECT ANSWER: Regardless of the existence of, or form of existence of god or g

    CORRECT ANSWER:
    Regardless of the existence of, or form of existence of god or gods, the laws of the universe, and as a product of those laws, the natural law of cooperation remains constant.

    If one does not deny the inviolability of those natural laws of cooperation, then regardless of god(s) existence or form, the laws remain the same.

    As such universal morality – or at least, universal immorality that we must avoid, serve those laws of cooperation, of nature, and of nature’s god if he exists.

    Insure the self determination by self determined means of others by insurance of their sovereignty in demonstrated interest, by insurance of reciprocity in display word and deed. This is the only means by which not to provoke retaliation such that we live and cooperate in peace and prosperity with one another.

    As such it’s the laws of the universe that determine morality – because they exist independent of our claim of god’s existence or form.

    However, the laws of the universe which tell us do not commit the immoral – tell us what not to do. These laws forced us to discover the derivation of those laws, to encourages us to cooperate as well as non-conflict -and the only philosopher or prophet to do so was Jesus of Nazareth, who gave us four more laws to promote cooperation (morality) rather than prevent conflict (immorality).

    Those laws are:
    1) The eradication of hatred from the human heart.
    2) The extension of kinship love to all receptive of it.
    3) The requirement for personal acts of charity to those deserving of it.
    4) The extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment, enserfment, enslavement, death, or war.

    Affections
    CD

    Reply addressees: @philosophytweet


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-29 23:25:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1873510624728326144

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  • RECIPROCAL trade is the only version of ‘free trade’ that isn’t theft

    RECIPROCAL trade is the only version of ‘free trade’ that isn’t theft.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-29 21:12:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1873477241885315245

    Reply addressees: @Timcast

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1873422847517032547

  • But it assumes we’re cooperating. Cooperation means non aggression (the via nega

    But it assumes we’re cooperating.
    Cooperation means non aggression (the via negativa) it means the via positiva of cooperation is still a choice – or it isn’t cooperation.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-29 17:06:32 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1873415316648431845

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  • Binding? No. But like many things that we state as a positive, the origin is a n

    Binding? No. But like many things that we state as a positive, the origin is a negative: self defense. The public is less likely to hang you or worse if you demonstrate paternal consideration and care.
    The same is true for the Chivalric codes which were originated by the church to domesticate the knights who were largely … awful people. But it eventually did take hold.

    The concept of noblesse oblige—the idea that privilege and power come with social responsibilities—has been treated variably by historic aristocracies. While there is evidence that certain aristocratic societies incorporated notions of obligation to the community, the extent to which this was taken seriously or practiced consistently is subject to debate. Here’s an analysis of evidence for and against the binding nature of noblesse oblige:

    Evidence FOR Noblesse Oblige as Binding

    Feudal Contracts and Reciprocal Obligations:
    Feudalism in medieval Europe formalized reciprocal relationships between lords and vassals.Lords provided protection, justice, and sustenance.
    In return, vassals owed military service and loyalty.
    These obligations, though hierarchical, were codified and treated as binding within the feudal system.

    Aristocratic Patronage:
    Aristocrats often supported their communities through patronage, funding public works, churches, and artistic endeavors. Example: Renaissance Italy, where families like the Medici funded art and architecture for civic pride and legacy.
    In England, wealthy landowners frequently built schools, almshouses, and hospitals for their tenants.

    Chivalric Codes: Chivalry imposed moral obligations on knights and nobles, emphasizing virtues like protection of the weak, justice, and honor.
    Texts like The Song of Roland and Le Morte d’Arthur depict these ideals as integral to aristocratic identity.

    Social and Cultural Expectations:
    Aristocracies often justified their privilege by claiming stewardship of the lower classes. Example: The Great Chain of Being in Europe framed nobles as divinely appointed caretakers of society.
    The Roman concept of paterfamilias extended to political leaders, who were expected to act as “fathers” to their communities.

    Revolutionary Backlashes Against Failure:
    When nobles failed to fulfill their perceived obligations, they faced severe consequences, suggesting these expectations were seen as binding.Example: The French Revolution was partly driven by aristocratic neglect of peasant welfare during economic crises.

    Examples of Individual Noblesse Oblige: Historical figures like Marcus Aurelius, Elizabeth I, and George Washington embodied leadership tied to duty and responsibility, reinforcing the ideal.

    Evidence AGAINST Noblesse Oblige as Binding

    Selective and Self-Serving Application:
    Many aristocrats treated noblesse oblige as a rhetorical justification for their privilege rather than a consistent obligation. Example: French nobles prior to the Revolution often maintained lavish lifestyles while burdening peasants with taxes.
    Landowners in 19th-century England frequently displaced tenants during the Highland Clearances or enclosure movements.

    Exploitation of Power:
    Feudal systems often prioritized aristocratic interests over the well-being of lower classes. Example: Serfs in Russia endured severe exploitation with little evidence of aristocratic responsibility until the emancipation reforms of 1861.
    Colonial aristocracies often justified conquest and exploitation as “civilizing missions,” demonstrating noblesse oblige applied selectively to certain groups.

    Historical Hypocrisy:
    Despite ideals of chivalry, knights and lords frequently engaged in rapacious behavior, including pillaging, warmongering, and exploitation of their subjects. Example: The Hundred Years’ War saw widespread destruction of peasant communities by both English and French forces.

    Cultural Variability:
    Not all aristocracies adhered to notions of noblesse oblige.Example: In pre-modern China, Confucian philosophy emphasized hierarchical responsibility, but imperial corruption often left local governance to predatory landlords.

    Modern Historical Revisionism:
    The romanticized view of noblesse oblige may owe more to later cultural reinterpretations than to consistent historical practice.Victorian authors like Walter Scott idealized medieval chivalry and aristocratic virtue, possibly exaggerating the role of noblesse oblige.

    Conclusion

    The historical evidence suggests that noblesse oblige was aspirational rather than consistently binding. Aristocratic societies often used the concept to legitimize their power, but its application was uneven and heavily influenced by cultural, economic, and individual factors. While some nobles genuinely embraced their responsibilities, many failed to live up to the ideal, leading to resentment and revolutionary consequences when obligations were ignored.

    Reply addressees: @juniorwolf @moveincircles


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-28 18:11:41 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1873069324598206464

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1873065516518260919

  • Actually you’re being prohibited from aggression. (that’s the negativa). We just

    Actually you’re being prohibited from aggression. (that’s the negativa). We just state the positiva to be consistent with the rest of moral arguments. Both testimony and reciprocity, sovereignty and self determination are positiva expressions of the negativa against causing people to want to boycott, ostracize, or kill you.

    And you know, I can’t believe I’ve failed this badly to make what I think is obvious understood.

    Reply addressees: @Will_of_Europa @AutistocratMS


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-27 13:24:49 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872634745689182208

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872630877228016126

  • Is it? Do you understand the five first principles? I would argue that given hum

    Is it? Do you understand the five first principles? I would argue that given human acquisitionalism that there are no conditions under which cooperation is not enforced by its opposite. And what is the difference if reciprocity is enforced and by what means? It doesn’t matter if you’re acting reciprocally no matter what the incentive to act reciprocally. All it means is that you are prevented from acting irreciprocally. (Again I had assumed this was rather obvious because it’s not the first time we have had the negativa vs positiva discussion in this context. The fact that we state it as cooperation instead of non-aggression, and as reciprocity instead of non-irreciprocity is just because humans are better when working with simple positivas than even a single negativa.

    The first question is: “Why not commit suicide?” This question is that of Personal philosophy.
    The second question is: “Why engage in cooperation rather than free-riding, parasitism, and predation?” This question is that of Ethics.
    The third question – and one that a group must answer – is: “Why engage in cooperation with others, rather than free-riding, parasitism, and predation?” This question is that of Politics.
    The Fourth Question a group must answer is: “How shall we organize our people with myths, arguments, and rules to survive and prosper in competition from nature and man?” That the question of Group Evolutionary Strategy,
    The Fifth Question a group must answer is “What are the limits of tolerance for life, for ethics, for politics, and for group evolutionary strategy, before we resort to suicide, separation, free riding, parasitism, predation, and the condition of victimhood?” That is the Question of Limits.

    Reply addressees: @AutistocratMS @Will_of_Europa


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-27 13:19:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872633350168723456

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872630009623634154

  • Are you sure you aren’t the subject of enforced cooperation?

    Are you sure you aren’t the subject of enforced cooperation?


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-27 12:39:23 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872623312293236767

    Reply addressees: @Will_of_Europa @AutistocratMS

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872614911463026691

  • (For example, what happens when one vs one becomes one or more vs one or more in

    (For example, what happens when one vs one becomes one or more vs one or more insuring one another – which is the near universal human condition.)


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-27 00:25:23 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872438591286333703

    Reply addressees: @AutistocratMS

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872433388352590064

  • “Actual cooperation doesn’t need to be enforced.” What evidence do you have for

    “Actual cooperation doesn’t need to be enforced.”

    What evidence do you have for that. History states the opposite. Human acquisition is only limited by cost(effort) and risk(cost). Why would we cooperate at all if not for the returns vs the costs of conflict?


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-27 00:23:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872438120748286236

    Reply addressees: @AutistocratMS

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