Category: Law, Constitution, and Jurisprudence

  • And there is no means of overriding the law. even Governemnt can only act wthin

    And there is no means of overriding the law. even Governemnt can only act wthin it. and all are liable otherwise.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-26 16:53:25 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188136562225221634

    Reply addressees: @directdemocrac7 @JohnMarkSays

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    @directdemocrac7 @JohnMarkSays So localities can choose means of decision within their locality (locality, county, city-state, province, state) but that decision making is limited to the production of commons, and the prohibition on irreciprocal display, word, and deed. In other words – no lies: transparency.

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    @directdemocrac7 @JohnMarkSays So localities can choose means of decision within their locality (locality, county, city-state, province, state) but that decision making is limited to the production of commons, and the prohibition on irreciprocal display, word, and deed. In other words – no lies: transparency.

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  • So localities can choose means of decision within their locality (locality, coun

    So localities can choose means of decision within their locality (locality, county, city-state, province, state) but that decision making is limited to the production of commons, and the prohibition on irreciprocal display, word, and deed. In other words – no lies: transparency.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-26 16:52:38 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188136364405153792

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    @directdemocrac7 @JohnMarkSays This will de-politicize the polity, and convert the entirety of government to citizen jury approving or vetoing, instead of politicians. We are no longer geographically constrained. The means of assent or veto varies from equi-representation, to class, to proportional$ to direct$

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    @directdemocrac7 @JohnMarkSays This will de-politicize the polity, and convert the entirety of government to citizen jury approving or vetoing, instead of politicians. We are no longer geographically constrained. The means of assent or veto varies from equi-representation, to class, to proportional$ to direct$

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1188135860816039937

  • For europeans I propose Judiciary, Monarchy as judge of last resort (veto, swiss

    For europeans I propose Judiciary, Monarchy as judge of last resort (veto, swiss method), Houses for Classes and Genders as Juries, Universal Petition of the Government with Proposed Contracts of the Commons. Restores jury (veto) and eliminates politicians. Much much more….


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-26 16:48:16 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188135266030149633

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    @directdemocrac7 @JohnMarkSays Using text instead of voice, teaches others as well. 😉
    Rule of law is more important than govt. So Rule of Law first. Next govt (production of commons) scales up down between war, going concern, windfalls of wealth. We include options on how to make decisions within the law.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1188134554705580032


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    @curtdoolittle

    @directdemocrac7 @JohnMarkSays Using text instead of voice, teaches others as well. 😉
    Rule of law is more important than govt. So Rule of Law first. Next govt (production of commons) scales up down between war, going concern, windfalls of wealth. We include options on how to make decisions within the law.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1188134554705580032

  • Using text instead of voice, teaches others as well. 😉 Rule of law is more impo

    Using text instead of voice, teaches others as well. 😉
    Rule of law is more important than govt. So Rule of Law first. Next govt (production of commons) scales up down between war, going concern, windfalls of wealth. We include options on how to make decisions within the law.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-26 16:45:26 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188134554705580032

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    @curtdoolittle @JohnMarkSays Curt, I have many questions…
    What is the structure of Govt?
    Is there voting?
    Is there a need for lawyers?
    Who leads the jury? What’s a “judge”?
    How is a crime reported & processed?

    Can voice chat, if you have the patience 🙂

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1187996037635608576

  • “Does the P constitution support citizen legislatures by prohibiting lawyers, fo

    —“Does the P constitution support citizen legislatures by prohibiting lawyers, foreign nationals, and secret society membership? The original #13A”—Kurt King @KurtKurtking

    Caution:… https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=493262927937269&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-26 16:08:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188125341891596288

  • I wouldn’t know how to ‘test’ secret society membership. I think all of it’s pre

    I wouldn’t know how to ‘test’ secret society membership. I think all of it’s pretty much conspiracy theory – I mean religions? I would say instead that all organizations pursuing irreciprocity are by definition criminal, and criminals cannot sit The Jury of any House.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-26 15:57:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188122526406324224

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    @KurtKurtking @JohnMarkSays Caution: P-Law only tests for reciprocity. But,our proposed US constitution’s Prohibitions are: Lawyers, Govt., Immigrants w/o 6 generations, and Foreign Nationals; restores houses for the classes and genders; and requires demonstrated achievement in military, family, biz.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @KurtKurtking @JohnMarkSays Caution: P-Law only tests for reciprocity. But,our proposed US constitution’s Prohibitions are: Lawyers, Govt., Immigrants w/o 6 generations, and Foreign Nationals; restores houses for the classes and genders; and requires demonstrated achievement in military, family, biz.

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  • Caution: P-Law only tests for reciprocity. But,our proposed US constitution’s Pr

    Caution: P-Law only tests for reciprocity. But,our proposed US constitution’s Prohibitions are: Lawyers, Govt., Immigrants w/o 6 generations, and Foreign Nationals; restores houses for the classes and genders; and requires demonstrated achievement in military, family, biz.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-26 15:54:55 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188121840700526592

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    @CurtDoolittle @JohnMarkSays
    Does the P constitution support citizen legislatures by prohibiting lawyers, foreign nationals, and secret society membership? The original #13A

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  • “Does the P constitution support citizen legislatures by prohibiting lawyers, fo

    —“Does the P constitution support citizen legislatures by prohibiting lawyers, foreign nationals, and secret society membership? The original #13A”—Kurt King @KurtKurtking

    Caution: P-Law only tests for reciprocity. P-law can be used to write any constitution whatever, for any polity, as long as it’s transparent.

    But, if you mean our proposed US constitution, its Prohibitions are: Lawyers, Govt., Immigrants under six generations, and Foreign Nationals; restores houses for the classes and genders; and requires demonstrated achievement in military, family, biz.

    I wouldn’t know how to ‘test’ secret society membership. I think all of it’s pretty much conspiracy theory – I mean religions? I would say instead that all organizations pursuing irreciprocity are by definition criminal, and criminals cannot sit The Jury of any House.

    There is very little reason for a federal legislature under P-law because we revert to european tradition wherein the Houses Juries but not majoritarian bodies. This means that anyone can propose a contract of the commons that does not violate the law, and then the houses (juries) vote whether to deny it. The selection of jurors of the houses is random, and so it’s impossible to use special interests to achieve your ends. Instead all contracts of the commons are subject to transparent public debate under which all statements thereof must be truthful and reciprocal and not in violation of the Law of reciprocity, or the constitution.

    This de-politicizes the country, and reduces people to either reading ‘proposals’ themselves, or using public intellectuals who are also limited to truthful reciprocal speech, to debate for and against different groups interests. ANy attempt to conspire between these intellectuals to deceive the public is also prosecutable. That means far better more talented smarter people will lead the public intellectual discourse. And even so, ‘parasites’ (liberals) will be prohibited from federal discourse if not all discourse.

    My preference is a return to monarchy, so that the process of forwarding ideas to the jury for decision is pre-filtered by the Cabinet, or the Cabinet is overridden by request of the people from the jury.

    However, that said, the federal government is devolved back to the original constitution as a provisioner of insurance of last resort limited to military, judicial, treasury, and insurance functions, and prohibited from interference in norms within the ‘states’.

    In other words he constitution restores the historical relationship between the catholic church as a juridical body between the states, and thes state as a local body, except using rule of law by P-law of reciprocity.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-26 12:08:00 UTC

  • THE ROLE OF CHURCHES IN THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTION —“I do have a question regar

    THE ROLE OF CHURCHES IN THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTION

    —“I do have a question regarding churches. Under P Law, would they be considered public or private property? And if considered public, would that limit what the preacher can and cannot say? Or would it being private, grant them some clemency when speaking on their faith?”—Stephen Thomas

    P law doesn’t say anything other than “don’t lie”.

    P-law says you have no rights in the commons other than to continuously walk along property-borders and common ways, while silent, and looking at your feet. That is the only necessary exchange we must grant one another given the impossibility of circumventing three dimensional reality. So teaching ‘sacredness’ is a matter of law under threat of prosecution, not membership in a community under threat of ostracization. So yes, we restore sacredness of the commons.

    The church’s past and present primary function is education of the psychological, moral, and political intuition – largely in an illiterate (and possibly intentionally illiterate) society. The academy’s primary function is education in the grammars of calculation: letters, numbers, reading, writing, the logics, mathematics, the physics, the law, the economics, and argument. What occurred in the 20th thanks to the second abrahamic attack on western civilization is the invasion of the academy with training the intuition rather than training reason, argument, and calculation. And we must either prevent this from happening, or require both institutions teach universal grammars, universal ethics, morality, and politics, but different means of providing mindfulness given the different constitutions of our minds.

    But, in a constitution written in P-law, that restores the balance of powers between the institutions, I have suggested that the religious institutions are restored to previous condition as a competitor to the military and the government (not the judiciary), and has dominion over matters of the family, and that we fund these like the schools (instead of the schools) whether scientific, rational, traditional, military, pagan(european historical), or christian – a description of the order we want to be long to.

    This allows people to choose the educational and social conditions they prefer, with the only constant relation being natural law and the grammars.

    It allows them to construct churches in the christian ethic of natural law; the extension of christian (familial) love to all as a means of both eliminating petting conflict, eliminating petty emotional and psychological coercion, and eliminating the demand to retaliate, and thereby producing the optimum social order with optimum reciprocal incentives, that assists in the formation of an economically and politically ( commercial) political order; the imitation of jesus in expression of that christian love; surrender of responsibility for fate to god or jesus, thereby limiting self criticism due to normal human frailty and error; and limiting the burden of ethical and moral decision making to dependence upon the accumulated evidence of religious history. If that is the case then they are not only sponsored and defended by the state but competing organizations on competing ethics are prohibited.

    So in this sense it is difficult to disambiguate the ownership of current libraries and churches as other than state-private partnerships. In fact, hard to describe any institutions as other than partnerships.

    So as long as a ‘church’ teaches compatibility with natural law, and teaches the grammars,

    My conflict and the one I just am leaving for markets to search out is that faith and truth are not the same things, and if they were we would not need faith. So christians must be taught the difference between an expression of faith and an expression of truth, and that we deliver undo the faithful and unto our gods, what is due them (the spiritual) and we delver unto the polity and the law what is due it.

    This has been the practice for all of our history. No other solution is possible while preserving both.

    Meanwhile those of us who think in archetypal masculine terms will focus our empathy on the pagan, and those who think in archetypal feminine terms will focus our empathy on the christian, and those of us who use reason and science rather than empty will focus on history, economics, and the law.

    And my hope (and suspicion) is that most people will do ALL OF THEM, and some people will do only ONE of them. And that will keep us unified despite our cognitive differences – without having to oppress one another. It is impossible to make people like me have faith – we are incapable of it. it is impossible to make people who need faith abandon it. But since we all share the natural law across that spectrum – or we are the enemy of not just our people, but all mankind, then this is an amenable solution for military unity, political unity, economic unity, and spiritual unity despite our differences.

    “MARKETS IN EVERYTHING.”

    (And yeah, that was freaking hard problem.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-25 11:19:00 UTC

  • “WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY FALSIFICATION? (IN COURT)” —“I don’t think I understand w

    “WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY FALSIFICATION? (IN COURT)”

    —“I don’t think I understand what you mean by “falsification.” I doubt you mean it in the Popperian sense because it is entirely possible to… https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=491988364731392&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-24 19:08:18 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1187445731889745920