Q&A: CURT: DIFFERENT ECONOMIES FOR DIFFERENT CLASSES? —“Could you elaborate on the concept of different economies for different classes? Does this mean laws can be enforced differently on different classes?”—John Zebley No it just means that the working and middle class and upper middle class market of voluntarily organized production does not account for the various commons produced by the people who make possible the voluntary organization of production (the market) by NOT engaging in criminal, unethical, immoral, and conspiratorial actions – and paying a high cost of doing so. Nor does the middle class market account for the vast extractions performed by the upper and elite class market which appears almost entirely extractive, and of trivial if any value. The working and laboring classes and the underclass contribute mostly by consuming (creating demand), policing each other, policing the commons, and serving in various hazardous capacities. But this is costly for them. And if they have access to consumption but not access to production then the market is ‘failing’ to pay them for what the market needs of them: behaving in the interest of the market. The same is true for the upper and elite classes most of whom benefit from tax revenues of questionable if not negative value, and the financial classes who benefit from our archaic liquidity distribution system in which they actually provide zero if not negative value.(really).
Category: Economics, Finance, and Political Economy
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Different Economies for Different Classes
SO that may be a lot to grasp. But the classical liberal economic system – as well as the keynesian and new keyensian, fails to account for externalities paid for by the underclasses, and rents privatized by the upper classes. The point is not so much that we need markets, but that by cherry picking what we measure, we legitimize the positive externalities of the middle class market, but fail to compensate the lower class market, and unjustly compensate the upper class market. So it’s not a matter of different law. It’s a matter of insufficiently accounting for the very different inputs and outputs of the different classes. I mean the whole world knows the middle classes generate prosperity. That’s settled science. But that doesn’t mean the middle class market and profit and loss account for the full inputs and outputs that make the middle class economy possible. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine. -
Different Economies for Different Classes
Q&A: CURT: DIFFERENT ECONOMIES FOR DIFFERENT CLASSES? —“Could you elaborate on the concept of different economies for different classes? Does this mean laws can be enforced differently on different classes?”—John Zebley No it just means that the working and middle class and upper middle class market of voluntarily organized production does not account for the various commons produced by the people who make possible the voluntary organization of production (the market) by NOT engaging in criminal, unethical, immoral, and conspiratorial actions – and paying a high cost of doing so. Nor does the middle class market account for the vast extractions performed by the upper and elite class market which appears almost entirely extractive, and of trivial if any value. The working and laboring classes and the underclass contribute mostly by consuming (creating demand), policing each other, policing the commons, and serving in various hazardous capacities. But this is costly for them. And if they have access to consumption but not access to production then the market is ‘failing’ to pay them for what the market needs of them: behaving in the interest of the market. The same is true for the upper and elite classes most of whom benefit from tax revenues of questionable if not negative value, and the financial classes who benefit from our archaic liquidity distribution system in which they actually provide zero if not negative value.(really).
SO that may be a lot to grasp. But the classical liberal economic system – as well as the keynesian and new keyensian, fails to account for externalities paid for by the underclasses, and rents privatized by the upper classes. The point is not so much that we need markets, but that by cherry picking what we measure, we legitimize the positive externalities of the middle class market, but fail to compensate the lower class market, and unjustly compensate the upper class market. So it’s not a matter of different law. It’s a matter of insufficiently accounting for the very different inputs and outputs of the different classes. I mean the whole world knows the middle classes generate prosperity. That’s settled science. But that doesn’t mean the middle class market and profit and loss account for the full inputs and outputs that make the middle class economy possible. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine. -
JUDGEMENT:Microsoft was disproportionate inflator of US Econ data. Difference? A
JUDGEMENT:Microsoft was disproportionate inflator of US Econ data. Difference? Apple only has iPhone.”#Apple just pulled a Microsoft”7/8
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-24 21:56:46 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/801907439264264192
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JUDGEMENT:100yrs of content have been redistributed in the past fifteen. Now onl
JUDGEMENT:100yrs of content have been redistributed in the past fifteen. Now only creators drive rev. #Apple just pulled a Microsoft.6/12
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-24 21:45:52 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/801904694943764480
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JUDGEMENT: Microsoft was disproportionate inflator of US Econ data. Difference?
JUDGEMENT: Microsoft was disproportionate inflator of US Econ data. Difference? Apple only has iPhone.”@Apple just pulled a Microsoft”
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-24 14:46:29 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/801799152019640324
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Why Don’t We Have Some Form Of Communism?
The problem is quite simple. It’s just unpleasant. But the universe is not kind. It has no mercy. And science tells us uncomfortable truths. if you cannot find a means of survival in the market, and others can do so but at lower prices, humanity does not need you. If humanity does not need you then your only choice is to find a means to make your nation, region, tribe, kin, or family need you. The problem with any MONOPOLY order (Fascist, Libertarian, Socialist), and the problem we created in the enlightenment promise that all people could join the middle upper middle, or aristocratic classes, if we expanded either the authoritarian, market, or socialist forms of economy. Instead, we need economies for each of the major classes, because we need to organize each of those classes differently. So monopolies, even monopoly democracy (majoritarianism) turns out to be the problem rather than the solution to the differences in the productivity of the estates of the realm (martial-order, burger-managemnet, craftsman-producer). There exist only three possible axes of coercion: – Violence:Law, – Bribery: Markets and Insurance – Fraud: Religion, Propaganda, and Deceit There exist only three axes of cooperation: – Parasitism:Takings, – Exchange:Markets, – Avoidance:Boycott There exist only three rational axes: – Predation when possible (immorality), – Exchange when Possible (morality); – Avoidance when possible (amorality). There exist only three methods of negotiation on cooperation. – Truth(science), Truthfulness, Honesty – Falsehood: Error, Bias, wishful thinking, suggestion/framing/loading, overloading/pseudoscience/pseudorationalism/propaganda, and deceit. – Silence. There exist only three axes of Organization – Predation(parasitism, – Exchange(production), – Separation (resistance) There exist only three possible axes of decidability for cooperative organizations: – Deliberate Selection via Authoritarianism (Fascism) – Pragmatic Eugenic Meritocracy (Markets) – Dysgenic Malthusian Equalitarianism (Socialism) The earth tells us a very clear, very obvious, very loud message: there are too many of us. Humans are not precious or special or valuable or intrinsically good. We are rational super predators organized by the application of violence and law, market and productivity, and norm and family.
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Why Don’t We Have Some Form Of Communism?
The problem is quite simple. It’s just unpleasant. But the universe is not kind. It has no mercy. And science tells us uncomfortable truths. if you cannot find a means of survival in the market, and others can do so but at lower prices, humanity does not need you. If humanity does not need you then your only choice is to find a means to make your nation, region, tribe, kin, or family need you. The problem with any MONOPOLY order (Fascist, Libertarian, Socialist), and the problem we created in the enlightenment promise that all people could join the middle upper middle, or aristocratic classes, if we expanded either the authoritarian, market, or socialist forms of economy. Instead, we need economies for each of the major classes, because we need to organize each of those classes differently. So monopolies, even monopoly democracy (majoritarianism) turns out to be the problem rather than the solution to the differences in the productivity of the estates of the realm (martial-order, burger-managemnet, craftsman-producer). There exist only three possible axes of coercion: – Violence:Law, – Bribery: Markets and Insurance – Fraud: Religion, Propaganda, and Deceit There exist only three axes of cooperation: – Parasitism:Takings, – Exchange:Markets, – Avoidance:Boycott There exist only three rational axes: – Predation when possible (immorality), – Exchange when Possible (morality); – Avoidance when possible (amorality). There exist only three methods of negotiation on cooperation. – Truth(science), Truthfulness, Honesty – Falsehood: Error, Bias, wishful thinking, suggestion/framing/loading, overloading/pseudoscience/pseudorationalism/propaganda, and deceit. – Silence. There exist only three axes of Organization – Predation(parasitism, – Exchange(production), – Separation (resistance) There exist only three possible axes of decidability for cooperative organizations: – Deliberate Selection via Authoritarianism (Fascism) – Pragmatic Eugenic Meritocracy (Markets) – Dysgenic Malthusian Equalitarianism (Socialism) The earth tells us a very clear, very obvious, very loud message: there are too many of us. Humans are not precious or special or valuable or intrinsically good. We are rational super predators organized by the application of violence and law, market and productivity, and norm and family.
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HUH. EXTERNALITIES NOT PRICES
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/23/trade-with-china-literally-kills-americans-economists-say/UH HUH. EXTERNALITIES NOT PRICES.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-23 15:54:00 UTC
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Nor my work on market for commons. -cheers
Nor my work on market for commons. -cheers.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-23 03:46:02 UTC
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I haven’t posted my work on “Sovereignty forces us to resort to markets in every
I haven’t posted my work on “Sovereignty forces us to resort to markets in everything” yet.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-23 03:45:27 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/801270410780274689
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