Category: Commentary, Critique, and Response

  • what gift?

    what gift?


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 17:32:18 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1016374497581129728

    Reply addressees: @ThePwnStone

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1016352351995813890


    IN REPLY TO:

    Original post on X

    Original tweet unavailable — we could not load the text of the post this reply is addressing on X. That usually means the tweet was deleted, the account is protected, or X does not expose it to the account used for archiving. The Original post link below may still open if you view it in X while signed in.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1016352351995813890

  • YES. WHAT HE SAID! 😉 (i’m too busy writing Doolittleism to Read Doolittleisms.)

    YES. WHAT HE SAID! 😉
    (i’m too busy writing Doolittleism to Read Doolittleisms.)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 17:26:52 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. 1) Huh. Pretty elaborate straw man. (a) monke

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    1) Huh. Pretty elaborate straw man. (a) monkeys on typewriters is a hyperbolic thought experiment: Infinite time, Infinite monkeys, infinite typewriters, infinite paper, infinite storage of the results, and infinite review of their work product are all impossible presuppositions.

    2) However, mathematics and sets are ideals not reals, and monkeys on typewriters are ideals not reals, and in the same way we can model mathematical infinities (operations on constant relations) we can model any set of Ludic (fixed set of references) operations.

    3) So conflating the ideal (math, monkeys on typewriters) with the real( operations existential in space-time), is a fallacy, and constructing arguments from that fallacy a straw man (deception or fraud.)

    4) that said, in the ideal model, some set of characters (~50), randomly generated (randomness is actually a hard problem in itself) will eventually produce the works of shakepeare…

    5) and an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters would do so in the time it it takes to type the number of characters that constitute the works of shakespeare. In other words, the time such a thing would take would be rather short.

    6) So while shakespear’s production of that prose took just shy of 14 billion years in a universe governed by what appear to be just sixteen forces and what appears to be one substance – just at different density and excitement – ideal monkeys would take only days to produce it.

    7) the reason being that we don’t have to evolve monkeys, paper, ribbon, ink, typewriters, and the ability to imagine and model ideal conditions in order to start work on the project. (See Nine Billion Names of God by Clarke.)

    8) So shakespear’s works were not created – they evolved out of sixteen basic forces of the universe and the one ‘whatever’ that space time is made from. Just as all else in the universe evolves from those very few rules in nearly infinite scale.

    9) Abrahamic religion and all arguments thereof, depend upon two sophisms we call ‘Pilpul and Critique’. They took greek innovations (idealism) and instead of trying to understand the world, tried to impose hosts of lies on the world. We are very vulnerable to these sophisms.

    10) Believers in the religions who employ the sophisms of pilpul and critique invented to justify jewish law, are addicts no less than any other drug user is an addict. That’s the genius of that religion. It produces an addiction response to lying.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 15:28:50 UTC

  • THE OVERPLAYED HAND OF THE HOLOCAUST Sorry, but while it’s true, the argument wa

    THE OVERPLAYED HAND OF THE HOLOCAUST

    Sorry, but while it’s true, the argument was overplayed such that even the red cross disagrees with anywhere the supposed numbers. The gas appears to have been a fraud. Jews (and muslims) had beed deported en mass from Europe many times (and sometimes killed otherwise) – and despite revisionist history, not for entirely unjust reasons.

    And it increasingly appears that Germans did nothing more complex or insidious than fighting world communism by repeating past deportations, using the methods developed for relocations by the Bolsheviks in Russia, while fighting a war on two fronts and running out of money for funding relocation camps – and as a consequence, putting victims to work as slave labor, then starving them to death.

    Not that that it is forgivable, and that we shouldn’t prevent it from ever happening again, but it wasn’t novel, and it pales in comparison to the crimes of the communists and socialists.

    History hates propaganda. People act according to rational incentives. In the end those incentives comes out. And the consensus of any century easily inverted in the next, when the passions once driving the narrative are lost, and the dispassionate find wisdom in the investigation of past deceptions, frauds, and excuses.

    The globalist century is over. It was a failure whether communist or capitalist. And now that technology has equilibrated through the use of markets we return to a balance of powers, nation states, and markets – as in almost all of history.

    Fascism won. Nationalist State Capitalism in the Russia and Chinese model has been in deterministic process since 1992, when the Russians and the Chinese finally gave up on socialism, leaving a trail of destruction through the developing world.

    Propaganda has a half life. And it’s about the length of a human life. Like the winds of time, Historians do their job as clerks of intertemporal facts. The chaff is gradually removed, leaving the kernel of truth: war is a horrible thing and humans are horrible superpredators, and the fact that we get along at all is a miracle of our institutions.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 15:11:00 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle shared a post

    Curt Doolittle shared a post.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 14:28:00 UTC

  • 1) Huh. Pretty elaborate straw man. (a) monkeys on typewriters is a hyperbolic t

    1) Huh. Pretty elaborate straw man. (a) monkeys on typewriters is a hyperbolic thought experiment: Infinite time, Infinite monkeys, infinite typewriters, infinite paper, infinite storage of the results, and infinite review of their work product are all impossible presuppositions.

    2) However, mathematics and sets are ideals not reals, and monkeys on typewriters are ideals not reals, and in the same way we can model mathematical infinities (operations on constant relations) we can model any set of Ludic (fixed set of references) operations.

    3) So conflating the ideal (math, monkeys on typewriters) with the real( operations existential in space-time), is a fallacy, and constructing arguments from that fallacy a straw man (deception or fraud.)

    4) that said, in the ideal model, some set of characters (~50), randomly generated (randomness is actually a hard problem in itself) will eventually produce the works of shakepeare…

    5) and an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters would do so in the time it it takes to type the number of characters that constitute the works of shakespeare. In other words, the time such a thing would take would be rather short.

    6) So while shakespear’s production of that prose took just shy of 14 billion years in a universe governed by what appear to be just sixteen forces and what appears to be one substance – just at different density and excitement – ideal monkeys would take only days to produce it.

    7) the reason being that we don’t have to evolve monkeys, paper, ribbon, ink, typewriters, and the ability to imagine and model ideal conditions in order to start work on the project. (See Nine Billion Names of God by Clarke.)

    8) So shakespear’s works were not created – they evolved out of sixteen basic forces of the universe and the one ‘whatever’ that space time is made from. Just as all else in the universe evolves from those very few rules in nearly infinite scale.

    9) Abrahamic religion and all arguments thereof, depend upon two sophisms we call ‘Pilpul and Critique’. They took greek innovations (idealism) and instead of trying to understand the world, tried to impose hosts of lies on the world. We are very vulnerable to these sophisms.

    10) Believers in the religions who employ the sophisms of pilpul and critique invented to justify jewish law, are addicts no less than any other drug user is an addict. That’s the genius of that religion. It produces an addiction response to lying.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 11:28:00 UTC

  • Is that true? I don’t think so. It might depend on the category

    Is that true? I don’t think so. It might depend on the category…


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-09 00:14:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1016113377322516481

    Reply addressees: @Alrenous

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1016092559205064706


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Alrenous

    The truth observably loses in most cases, so one of these premises must be false. https://t.co/Yd0m0AtPwe

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1016092559205064706

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status. ANSWERING A CRITIC 1) —“Are you saying Trut

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    ANSWERING A CRITIC

    1) —“Are you saying Truth does not exist?”—

    Well, I claim that without perfect knowledge of the universe it is quite difficult to know if we speak the Truth (the most parsimonious description possible). We may in fact speak truthfully and ‘the truth’ but we can never know so other than under reductio (trivial and irrelevant) criterial.

    (See Popper: Critical Rationalism, Critical Preference, and the analytic movement’s discovery that closure all but doesn’t exist.)

    2) —“Discredited”—

    You state that something I’ve said is discredited but not what. As far as I know I *cannot* err by asserting this series of statements above: that testimony can only insure that it’s warrantied against ignorance, error, bias, fraud, and deceit. One can testify truthfully because of due diligence, but one can never know he speaks ‘the truth’ (an ideal).

    Means, motive, opportunity, method of argument.

    3) SPEECH: TRANSACTIONS (Phrases, Sentences) PRODUCING CONTRACTS FOR MEANING (Stories).

    Speech is only consequential in a contract for meaning with others. Speech only evolves as a consequence of the search for contracts of meaning with others.

    4) TRUTH (DECIDABILITY) IS A MATTER OF LAW.

    Truth is a matter of law, and the grammars we call logics, mathematics, science, description, and narrative only assist us in the process of creating associations, followed by the process of disambiguation and deflation so that we can then eliminate ignorance error bias and deceit.

    Religious ‘truth’ and “philosophical truth’ are not in fact ‘truth’ but methods of either asserting a falsehood by justification (philosophical) or by authority (religious). As such they are universally statements of COMMAND FOR CONFORMITY (obedience).

    Or stated more pejoratively: Law asks we warranty our words or face restitution and punishment. Religion and Philosophy make excuses (deceits) such that speakers can AVOID warranty of their words (liability for deceits).

    There are only three means of coercion available to man:
    force, trade, and speech(deception).

    5) TRUTH (DECIDABILITY) SPECTRUM

    [T]AUTOLOGICAL TRUTH: That testimony you give when you promising the equality of two statements using different terms: A circular definition, a statement of equality or a statement of identity.

    [A]NALYTIC TRUTH: The testimony you give promising the internal consistency of one or more statements used in the construction of a proof in an axiomatic(declarative) system. (a Logical Truth).

    [I]DEAL TRUTH: That testimony (description) you would give, if your knowledge (information) was complete, your language was sufficient, stated without error, cleansed of bias, and absent deceit, within the scope of precision limited to the context of the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possessed of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony. (Ideal Truth = Perfect Parsimony.)

    [T]RUTHFULNESS: that testimony (description) you give if your knowledge (information) is incomplete, your language is insufficient, you have performed due diligence in the elimination of error, imaginary content, wishful thinking, bias, and deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and which you warranty to be so; and the promise that another possessed of the knowledge, performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.

    [H]ONESTY: that testimony (description) you give with full knowledge that knowledge is incomplete, your language is insufficient, but you have not performed due diligence in the elimination of error and bias, but which you warranty is free of deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possess of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.

    6) DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY

    True enough to imagine a conceptual relationship
    True enough for me to feel good about myself.
    True enough for me to take actions that produce positive results.
    True enough for me to not cause others to react negatively to me.
    True enough to resolve a conflict without subjective opinion among my fellow people with similar values.
    True enough to resolve a conflict without subjective opinion across different peoples with different values.
    True regardless of all opinions or perspectives.
    Tautologically true: in that the two things are equal.

    7) WHAT DOES TRUTH MEAN? (AND WHAT IS ITS ADJECTIVE FORM?)

    Truth can only mean ‘descriptive testimony free of error, bias, suggestion, obscurantism and deceit’. In other words, speech, the semantic content of which corresponds with reality.

    One speaks truthfully, or untruthfully , or honestly or dishonestly.

    To be precise, one speaks honestly not having done due diligence, nor warrantying one’s speech. One speaks truthfully having done due diligence, and warrantying one’s speech.

    So you might speak honestly – not having done due diligence on your speech. But that is not the same as speaking truthfully – having done due diligence on your speech. So you might give your honest opinion, but that differs from doing diligence that such an opinion survives criticism – meaning correspondence.

    Both the physical sciences and law specialize in the art of due diligence. As an extension of law, anglo analytic philosophy attempts to specialize in the art of due diligence. Strangely, continental philosophy does the opposite.

    But if speaking truthfully requires that we perform due diligence, and warranty our speech, then how does one perform such due diligence? How do we test correspondence? In the most simple of terms, a truth statement must be:
    – categorically consistent (non conflationary)
    – internally consistent (logical),
    – externally correspondent (empirical),
    – operationally possible (existentially possible),
    – coherent categorically, internally, externally, and operationally (consistent across all tests)
    – fully accounted (you haven’t cherry picked cause and/or consequence)
    And if you want to claim it’s ethical and moral (and objectively legal):
    – rational: consisting of nothing but a series of fully rational choices
    – reciprocal: consisting of nothing other than productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary exchanges free of imposition upon others by externality.

    We use the word ‘Truth’ in many, many contexts. Most of them somewhere between a convenience and a dishonesty. True, honest, logical, and good are independent concepts frequently conflated to attribute authority where it is absent.

    8) CLOSING
    And given that I have been doing this for a very long time, I’m more than certain that you would have actually constructed some form of argument by now if you could – because capable people do so.  

    I am a scientist (prosecutor) and philosophers and theologians are nothing more than snake oil salesmen selling harmful products that we have not yet outlawed from the market.

    Which is easily fixed.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-08 19:54:39 UTC

  • “The Strategic Answer to the Parasitic Question: Survival Strategies Must Evolve

    —“The Strategic Answer to the Parasitic Question: Survival Strategies Must Evolve to Combat Parasitism or be subsumed by it.”— Todd Magnusson

    h/t: via Bill Joslin


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-08 19:54:00 UTC

  • JOSLIN HITS IT OUT OF THE PARK. by Bill Joslin (Just want to say that no one els

    JOSLIN HITS IT OUT OF THE PARK.

    by Bill Joslin

    (Just want to say that no one else has made it this far, and bill is rocking it.)

    1 ———-

    PSYCHOLOGY

    Psychology – ostensive (experiential) argumentation to account for behavior.

    Incentive: seek a monopoly on perception via ostensive grammars

    Alternative: Aquisitionism where by human behaviour can be fully accounted via incentives.

    Outcome: a market for coherence via descriptive explanations of behaviour which can be tested with low or no context (declarative).

    2 ————

    POLITICAL *-OCRACY

    Any *-ocracy (democracy, oligarchy, Plutarchy, monarchy etc) are systemic moral justifications for control of nomocracy argued through imperatives.

    Incentive: to obtain a monopoly on the creation and execution of law – power over others argued via preferences for one “the good”.

    Alternative: propertarianism whereby all transactions must meet the criteria of perfect reciprocity.

    Outcome: disambiguous execution of law. A market for the creation of many “goods”.

    3 ———-

    RELIGIOUS THEOLOGY

    Religio-philosophical are sets of arguments for prefered criteria of measuring truth.

    Incentive: obtain a monopoly on truth (justify god like proclamations about reality). Unwarranted declaration.

    Alternative: Testimonialism which uses all available criteria to demonstrate due diligence in eliminating error, bias, and deception

    Outcome: a market for coherence.

    4 ———

    MONOPOLY(DECEPTION) VS MARKET(TRUTH)

    In all cases above, the former uses ostensive or imperative grammars to obtain a monopoly.

    Each alternative “deframes” arguments, converting ostensive and imperative grammars into declarative statements.

    Why? Because only the declarative has the quality of being testable.

    This results in the destruction of monopolies over perception, law (violence) and truth allowing reality to dictate decisions and actions.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-07-08 19:53:00 UTC