Category: Commentary, Critique, and Response

photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/45292602_10156751628352264_6118374929709662208_o_10156751628342264.jpg Randall DangerI hope Voat sees this and takes notes. I keep waiting for them to come for us there. I’m actually really surprised they went after Gab first.Nov 2, 2018, 9:11 PMPaul TrippGab is bigger.Nov 2, 2018, 9:13 PMTab WolframGab might be worth investing in. I think it will rise in tandem with Twitter’s inevitable collapseNov 2, 2018, 9:14 PMRandall DangerI’m really surprised it’s been so popular just because the Twitter format sucks. Why clone something that sucks, character limits and all? I wish it was more like Facebook or at least had groupsNov 2, 2018, 9:16 PMSean Hernandezremember that the new right is a greater threat to cuckservatives than the left. fox news(murdoch) is behind much of the bansNov 2, 2018, 9:16 PMSean Hernandezread the comments here in the latest ban of the killstream/healstream which raised 26k for charity all going to st. judes kids with cancer. WSJ forced the hospital to give the money back all over political beef https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1058520898775474177Nov 2, 2018, 9:23 PMStephen ThomasUnless they find a secure revenue stream. They can still be taken down. Sadly..

We desperately need our own payment processors and financial institutionsNov 2, 2018, 9:23 PMMark Doss”100%”Nov 2, 2018, 9:27 PMJeff UrizenGab is a buffer. A right wing echo chamber. It keeps right wingers from Infiltrating Twitter, it should be every right wingers goal to make sure our opinions are heard on Twitter, no matter how many accounts they shit down. Gab is merely symbolic, it’s a safe space, we don’t need a safe space, we need to be neck deep in conflict, the war hasn’t even begun.Nov 2, 2018, 9:29 PMTab WolframFree expression without fear of draconian censorship is a powerful drawNov 2, 2018, 9:31 PMGeorge Anthony IIAnd Voat is garbage.Nov 2, 2018, 9:35 PMPaul TrippWhat makes you say voat is garbage? I love it.Nov 2, 2018, 9:35 PMGeorge Anthony IIThere is no accounting for taste.Nov 2, 2018, 9:37 PMJason MurphyLet’s see it play out but credit to Torba for taking the DS route. Just refuse to die.Nov 2, 2018, 9:38 PMRandall DangerI like the reddit format and it looks nice in night mode. The culture is great too. It’s like 4chan /pol/ and 8chan /pol/ had a baby and then that baby was given steroids and methNov 2, 2018, 9:41 PMGeorge Anthony IIKmart Reddit meets Dollar Store /pol/Nov 2, 2018, 9:44 PMRafael AureliusImagine needing to trust third parties to accept and transmit payments, LOL.Nov 2, 2018, 10:07 PMSean Hernandezthe pockets are deep for deplatforming and destabilizing nations https://www.facebook.com/excellentcalibur/videos/261554074551337/?__xts__[0]=68.ARDt204xRvHDfxZ4NUK73KD3jOpgtlr80g61yDXSiZ0_YGFTcFm6rNIqK-r28aEDOAXqSp23Ju8bklH7ZANzxvA86C6CHUtZhMoL6XXRjcDTK0TIak1Jn10bExOOPHwmvM0It5FfASVieAbe6nTHvOsAEzy5hePRGIvSeE_DshYhqeDrlszgyIwzH4ZwYSJ38B6TCTcwlU0Kc1UMm5OLTxj-pHQzo7PCjzc6&__tn__=H-RNov 2, 2018, 10:10 PMRafael AureliusIt exists and it’s called Bitcoin and Monero.Nov 2, 2018, 10:17 PMRafael AureliusUnstoppable, censorship resistance, debasement resistant, sound money.Nov 2, 2018, 10:17 PMVincenzo LaSalaGabsmedatNov 2, 2018, 10:30 PMVincenzo LaSalaTroofNov 2, 2018, 10:31 PMJames SantagataVicious organic haters are the best paid advertising no one ever paid for — actually better than paid.

Welcome back, Gab!Nov 2, 2018, 11:29 PMTheo Weinmannot to punch right but didnt gab ban a bunch of people for posting lolis before getting Shoah’d?Nov 2, 2018, 11:58 PMYiannis KontinopoulosGab is just 4chan for people with skin in the gameNov 3, 2018, 12:51 AMPhilip ChristopherYiannis Kontinopoulos Some people need baby steps, and I would rather see them take steps forward than retreat.Nov 3, 2018, 1:22 AMNick WeilThat’s honestly why I’m not super interested in Gab at the moment. I want to be where both sides are. That’s what makes it fun.Nov 3, 2018, 1:47 AMSean Hernandezthe new blockchain migration away from dying youtube has begun tonight. it was a stunning success. the owners were shocked when we crashed their servers buying icecreams on their dlive site. we came with over 6k audience in minutes. more people than all their uses combined. they adjusted their servers after the crash and said you are welcome here to say ANYTHING. this is the future and they are ready. zero censorshipNov 3, 2018, 2:31 AMJames SantagataGeorge Anthony II Remind me not to piss you off. lolNov 3, 2018, 2:47 AMEly HarmanInvalid argument and analogy. Lolli hentai serves no worthwhile purpose, even to you. If you like it or whatever, that reflects poorly on you and you’d be better off liking something more wholesome. Mohammad cartoons serve no useful purpose either, except to piss of Muslims, which may be useful enough…Nov 3, 2018, 8:27 AMAvialae HortonWaiting eagerly for it to be restored.Nov 3, 2018, 11:23 AMSteven Logan Everett-FainMother fuckers locked my account the MOMENT I commented on that.Nov 3, 2018, 11:49 AMSean Hernandezhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfHxLVangfA&feature=youtu.beNov 3, 2018, 11:51 AMEthan TriceI feel like Theo is setting up a jeff foxworthy style joke. If your standard of free speech is “I want unlimited access to child porn,” You might be a lolbertarian.Nov 3, 2018, 12:08 PMEthan TriceEly Harman I’d say the Mohammad cartoon is quite a bit different from CP and yea, does serve a purpose. The only things that should be banned on a free speech platform are CP, terroristic threats, and “possibly” people who make bad faith arguments.Nov 3, 2018, 12:10 PMEly HarmanBad faith arguments aren’t worth tolerating. Waste of everyone’s time, and worse… Sometimes they catch on.Nov 3, 2018, 12:21 PMTheo Weinmanwell firstly loli isnt CP since its a drawing, secondly it is protected by the first ammendment. therefore if youre going to be a free speech platform or advocate you shouldnt be a massive fucking hypocrite and ban loli. and finally everything has a purpose art is extremely subjective and loli certainly qualifies as art. as does the art of trolling muslims by posting cartoons of mohammad having fucking a pig or something.Nov 3, 2018, 1:19 PMSean Hernandezthe revolution has begun https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1058768614906572801Nov 3, 2018, 1:45 PMEthan TriceTheo Weinman dude, I can’t tell if you’re just doing bait or if you’re actually a pedo. If bait, kudos. otherwise, go back to the lolbertarian party, you degenerate.Nov 3, 2018, 2:42 PMTheo Weinmanenjoying loli hentai has nothing to do with being a pedo, being a pedo involves actual children. seems like youre just an SJW triggered by a bunch of cartoons LMAONov 3, 2018, 2:52 PMTheo Weinmanif youre going to make a radical free speech platform you shouldnt be a fucking hypocrite and ban things that trigger you thats all im sayingNov 3, 2018, 2:53 PMCorbus AureliusI have to agree with Theo there. If you are advertising as free speech, well…..Nov 6, 2018, 3:00 PMCurt Doolittle( Not htat it matters, but yeah, hentai is like legal teen porn.. )Nov 6, 2018, 3:02 PMEthan TriceFree speech doesn’t cover child porn. Giving a child a fake Id doesn’t make the child an adult. Drawing a child and writing “akshually she’s a 1000 year old demon” is still child porn. Also, we don’t have freedom of speech so you can have access to porn (that’s incidental at best). We have it for discussing challenging ideas. I dont care about your access to Your underage waifuNov 6, 2018, 3:26 PMEthan TriceCurt Doolittle I’m not even talking abt banning hentai. We’re talking specifically of the ones involving drawings of childrenNov 6, 2018, 3:27 PMEthan TriceIn those “barely 18” they’re actually 18. A drawing of a child isn’t actually of an adult just because the artist pretends it soNov 6, 2018, 3:27 PMCorbus AureliusThe problem is in the monitoring policing. Once you open it to that, reporting becomes a weapon. No hentai is really the only alternative. There’s a ton of things Christ cucks as well as intersectional feminists would love to ban, if only they had an in.Nov 6, 2018, 3:42 PMEthan TriceCorbus Aurelius are you seriously doing the slippery slope of censorship in regards to sexual depictions of children? lolbertarianism is over. saying “no child porn” and “no selling drugs to kids” is not one step away from 1984 style authoritarianism.Nov 6, 2018, 3:44 PMEthan TriceCorbus Aurelius I am not talking about banning hentai. if you want to be like Kurt Eichenwald, you can look at your tentacle nonsense, but allowing depictions of children is a line I’m not going to cross. Side note, I always thought the “hickery dickery dent, what if the child consents” was a meme about libertarians, but lo and behold, we got guys like Theo willing to die on that hill that if he can’t have access to his drawings of underage girls, he’ll shriek that you’re an evil statist.Nov 6, 2018, 3:45 PMCorbus AureliusEthan Trice I had a conversation in Gab a few months back with a guy talking about anime being degenerate and I absolutely couldn’t understand his animosity. Obviously, he was conflating the two. Once you open the door to censoring, it won’t be closed without extremely clear rules, and policing. At a million users, it may be no big deal. But when larger? Again, if advertzed as a free speech platform, if it isn’t illegal, there’s an in to an ever increasing outcry for censorship, if x why not y, reeeee. J/sNov 6, 2018, 3:54 PMTheo Weinmanthe argument that hentai is somehow child porn is as retarded as the argument that murdering someone in a vidya is the same as going on a murder spree in real life. are you seriously this un self aware and retarded? they are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS therefore no one is harmed. its exactly like blowing someones head off with a shotgun in a video game. should that be illegal too.Nov 6, 2018, 4:25 PMTheo Weinmanhow can you be this much of an NPC and not see that what you are doing is literally the same as when feminists try to ban sex dolls and porn because they “pomote the idea of raping women”Nov 6, 2018, 4:27 PMEthan TriceCorbus Aurelius dude, re-read what I wrote. I didn’t say “anime” and I’m not even talking broadly about degeneracy. I’m speaking specifically of the depictions of underage people in pornography. whether it’s a drawing of a little girl or an actual little girl. Death threats are not free speech neither is child pornography. Do not misrepresent such things as free speech or as unjust censorship when you should know betterNov 6, 2018, 4:54 PMEthan TriceTheo Weinman stop engaging in a bad faith argument. I’m not talking about banning anime or even hentai more generally. I’m talking specifically about banning depictions of children in pornography. if you are trying to get access to pictures of children, whether drawn or real, you should be in jail. don’t pretend for a moment this is “free speech”.Nov 6, 2018, 4:54 PMTheo Weinmanits not a bad faith argument, under US law artistic expression is protected under the first ammendment, unless you are actually harming real children. drawings are not real people. but by all means rally for the rights of fictional characters.Nov 6, 2018, 5:01 PMTheo Weinmanthere is a word for people who cant tell the difference between reality and fiction, delusional. you are either making a bad faith argument yourself or you believe fictional characters deserve human rights which is insanityNov 6, 2018, 5:02 PMTheo Weinmanchild pronography that depicts real children is illegal precisely because it is impossible to produce without harming children, drawings and literature harm no oneNov 6, 2018, 5:03 PMEthan TriceTheo Weinman it’s a bad faith argument when I say one thing and you say another. I’m not talking about banning all anime or even all hentai and frankly, if you’re this concerned about having access to porn of underage girls, you need to re-evaluate your priorities.Nov 6, 2018, 5:07 PMTheo Weinmanthere really is no difference, art is art. either all artistic expression is allowed as long as it doesnt involve unwilling participants or in this case child participants in its actual creation (IE unless children are hired to draw them or something) or art is limited by SJWs and moralfags who are triggered by fiction. if you are triggered by fiction you have serious issuesNov 6, 2018, 7:03 PMJeremiah GreasingTheo Weinman a drawing is cp bro.Nov 6, 2018, 9:14 PMAlastair BuckwheatWith regards to loli there’s a pretty big difference in severity between a drawing and a photograph, a photograph has involved the traumatisation or exploitation of a real human. It’s “harmless” in the sense there’s no victim but what isn’t harmless is the attraction that makes the drawing appealing in the first place. Even if perfectly legal it reflects poorly on you in the same way that enjoying extreme paraphilia pornography reflects a fundamentally unwell personality or deranged development.

It’s a moot topic in this case though, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to want to segregate pornographic material altogether from the issue of free political speech. It’s really not the same thing.Nov 6, 2018, 9:34 PMCorbus AureliusAlastair Buckwheat No. Everything is political speech. That it isn’t illegal shows that it certainly a part of free speech also. Just because you don’t like xyz about something, doesn’t mean you can just ban it.Nov 6, 2018, 9:57 PMTheo Weinmanfree speech isnt just limited to political speech it also includes freedom of artistic expression. something being derranged or offensive doesnt make it invalid or illegal. attraction isnt exactly a choice at any rate and Id rather people have access to drawings than have no other option than to offend. if you think about it loli images actually save the lives of many children.Nov 6, 2018, 9:59 PMEthan TriceCorbus Aurelius child porn is not political speech. The lolbertarian party has been lying to you.Nov 6, 2018, 10:08 PMEthan TriceTheo Weinman if you need drawings of children to keep you from raping children, just chemically castrate yourselfNov 6, 2018, 10:09 PMAlastair BuckwheatThe argument against twitter and other media censorship is that these places function effectively as the modern “public square”. That doesn’t lend itself to allowing gratuitous obscenity in public, free speech is important because it’s a political feedback mechanism not because it allows you to spread obscenity. I’m not arguing that these things should be entirely banned, but there should be a demarcation between obscene displays and speech. You have to maintain the commons.Nov 6, 2018, 10:10 PMTheo Weinmanthe difference between Gab and Twitter is that unlike Twitter Gab has chosen a hardline stance on ALL free speech not just political speech. if they wanted to they could have simply said they only support free political speech but they claim to support all free speech which is a lie. and “obscenity” is political speech in the sense that you are advocating for freedom of artistic expression.Nov 6, 2018, 10:23 PMTheo WeinmanEthan Trice child porn is not protected by the first ammendment, lolicon is. learn the difference between art and child abuse, thankNov 6, 2018, 10:23 PMTheo WeinmanI am not against family friendly platforms like Facebook banning pornography off their site as long as it is stated plainly in their TOS (which it is) but GAB allows pornography and obscene content to be posted on their platofrm. they need to make their stance clear because they are equivocating on their free speech position.Nov 6, 2018, 10:26 PMKenneth Arnoldso, CIA now hosts gab, planted 2 senior engineers & now is poised to own a 51% stake in gab. good to knowNov 7, 2018, 11:42 AMTheo WeinmanLMAO its actually a fake name I got zucced on my old account so I translated my real name into German. Im actually a Slav and this was my alt account that I made to avoid a 30 day ban.Nov 7, 2018, 6:45 PM

photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/45292602_10156751628352264_6118374929709662208_o_10156751628342264.jpg Randall DangerI hope Voat sees this and takes notes. I keep waiting for them to come for us there. I’m actually really surprised they went after Gab first.Nov 2, 2018, 9:11 PMPaul TrippGab is bigger.Nov 2, 2018, 9:13 PMKevin WuLove your enemies, for they give you the means to better than themNov 2, 2018, 9:13 PMTab WolframGab might be worth investing in. I think it will rise in tandem with Twitter’s inevitable collapseNov 2, 2018, 9:14 PMRandall DangerI’m really surprised it’s been so popular just because the Twitter format sucks. Why clone something that sucks, character limits and all? I wish it was more like Facebook or at least had groupsNov 2, 2018, 9:16 PMSean Hernandezremember that the new right is a greater threat to cuckservatives than the left. fox news(murdoch) is behind much of the bansNov 2, 2018, 9:16 PMSean Hernandezread the comments here in the latest ban of the killstream/healstream which raised 26k for charity all going to st. judes kids with cancer. WSJ forced the hospital to give the money back all over political beef https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1058520898775474177Nov 2, 2018, 9:23 PMStephen ThomasUnless they find a secure revenue stream. They can still be taken down. Sadly..

We desperately need our own payment processors and financial institutionsNov 2, 2018, 9:23 PMMark Doss”100%”Nov 2, 2018, 9:27 PMJeff UrizenGab is a buffer. A right wing echo chamber. It keeps right wingers from Infiltrating Twitter, it should be every right wingers goal to make sure our opinions are heard on Twitter, no matter how many accounts they shit down. Gab is merely symbolic, it’s a safe space, we don’t need a safe space, we need to be neck deep in conflict, the war hasn’t even begun.Nov 2, 2018, 9:29 PMTab WolframFree expression without fear of draconian censorship is a powerful drawNov 2, 2018, 9:31 PMGeorge Anthony IIAnd Voat is garbage.Nov 2, 2018, 9:35 PMPaul TrippWhat makes you say voat is garbage? I love it.Nov 2, 2018, 9:35 PMGeorge Anthony IIThere is no accounting for taste.Nov 2, 2018, 9:37 PMJason MurphyLet’s see it play out but credit to Torba for taking the DS route. Just refuse to die.Nov 2, 2018, 9:38 PMRandall DangerI like the reddit format and it looks nice in night mode. The culture is great too. It’s like 4chan /pol/ and 8chan /pol/ had a baby and then that baby was given steroids and methNov 2, 2018, 9:41 PMGeorge Anthony IIKmart Reddit meets Dollar Store /pol/Nov 2, 2018, 9:44 PMRafael AureliusImagine needing to trust third parties to accept and transmit payments, LOL.Nov 2, 2018, 10:07 PMSean Hernandezthe pockets are deep for deplatforming and destabilizing nations https://www.facebook.com/excellentcalibur/videos/261554074551337/?__xts__[0]=68.ARDt204xRvHDfxZ4NUK73KD3jOpgtlr80g61yDXSiZ0_YGFTcFm6rNIqK-r28aEDOAXqSp23Ju8bklH7ZANzxvA86C6CHUtZhMoL6XXRjcDTK0TIak1Jn10bExOOPHwmvM0It5FfASVieAbe6nTHvOsAEzy5hePRGIvSeE_DshYhqeDrlszgyIwzH4ZwYSJ38B6TCTcwlU0Kc1UMm5OLTxj-pHQzo7PCjzc6&__tn__=H-RNov 2, 2018, 10:10 PMRafael AureliusIt exists and it’s called Bitcoin and Monero.Nov 2, 2018, 10:17 PMRafael AureliusUnstoppable, censorship resistance, debasement resistant, sound money.Nov 2, 2018, 10:17 PMVincenzo LaSalaGabsmedatNov 2, 2018, 10:30 PMVincenzo LaSalaTroofNov 2, 2018, 10:31 PMJames SantagataVicious organic haters are the best paid advertising no one ever paid for — actually better than paid.

Welcome back, Gab!Nov 2, 2018, 11:29 PMTheo Weinmannot to punch right but didnt gab ban a bunch of people for posting lolis before getting Shoah’d?Nov 2, 2018, 11:58 PMYiannis KontinopoulosGab is just 4chan for people with skin in the gameNov 3, 2018, 12:51 AMPhilip ChristopherYiannis Kontinopoulos Some people need baby steps, and I would rather see them take steps forward than retreat.Nov 3, 2018, 1:22 AMNick WeilThat’s honestly why I’m not super interested in Gab at the moment. I want to be where both sides are. That’s what makes it fun.Nov 3, 2018, 1:47 AMSean Hernandezthe new blockchain migration away from dying youtube has begun tonight. it was a stunning success. the owners were shocked when we crashed their servers buying icecreams on their dlive site. we came with over 6k audience in minutes. more people than all their uses combined. they adjusted their servers after the crash and said you are welcome here to say ANYTHING. this is the future and they are ready. zero censorshipNov 3, 2018, 2:31 AMJames SantagataGeorge Anthony II Remind me not to piss you off. lolNov 3, 2018, 2:47 AMEly HarmanInvalid argument and analogy. Lolli hentai serves no worthwhile purpose, even to you. If you like it or whatever, that reflects poorly on you and you’d be better off liking something more wholesome. Mohammad cartoons serve no useful purpose either, except to piss of Muslims, which may be useful enough…Nov 3, 2018, 8:27 AMAvialae HortonWaiting eagerly for it to be restored.Nov 3, 2018, 11:23 AMSteven Logan Everett-FainMother fuckers locked my account the MOMENT I commented on that.Nov 3, 2018, 11:49 AMSean Hernandezhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfHxLVangfA&feature=youtu.beNov 3, 2018, 11:51 AMEthan TriceI feel like Theo is setting up a jeff foxworthy style joke. If your standard of free speech is “I want unlimited access to child porn,” You might be a lolbertarian.Nov 3, 2018, 12:08 PMEthan TriceEly Harman I’d say the Mohammad cartoon is quite a bit different from CP and yea, does serve a purpose. The only things that should be banned on a free speech platform are CP, terroristic threats, and “possibly” people who make bad faith arguments.Nov 3, 2018, 12:10 PMEly HarmanBad faith arguments aren’t worth tolerating. Waste of everyone’s time, and worse… Sometimes they catch on.Nov 3, 2018, 12:21 PMTheo Weinmanwell firstly loli isnt CP since its a drawing, secondly it is protected by the first ammendment. therefore if youre going to be a free speech platform or advocate you shouldnt be a massive fucking hypocrite and ban loli. and finally everything has a purpose art is extremely subjective and loli certainly qualifies as art. as does the art of trolling muslims by posting cartoons of mohammad having fucking a pig or something.Nov 3, 2018, 1:19 PMSean Hernandezthe revolution has begun https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1058768614906572801Nov 3, 2018, 1:45 PMEthan TriceTheo Weinman dude, I can’t tell if you’re just doing bait or if you’re actually a pedo. If bait, kudos. otherwise, go back to the lolbertarian party, you degenerate.Nov 3, 2018, 2:42 PMTheo Weinmanenjoying loli hentai has nothing to do with being a pedo, being a pedo involves actual children. seems like youre just an SJW triggered by a bunch of cartoons LMAONov 3, 2018, 2:52 PMTheo Weinmanif youre going to make a radical free speech platform you shouldnt be a fucking hypocrite and ban things that trigger you thats all im sayingNov 3, 2018, 2:53 PMCorbus AureliusI have to agree with Theo there. If you are advertising as free speech, well…..Nov 6, 2018, 3:00 PMCurt Doolittle( Not htat it matters, but yeah, hentai is like legal teen porn.. )Nov 6, 2018, 3:02 PMEthan TriceFree speech doesn’t cover child porn. Giving a child a fake Id doesn’t make the child an adult. Drawing a child and writing “akshually she’s a 1000 year old demon” is still child porn. Also, we don’t have freedom of speech so you can have access to porn (that’s incidental at best). We have it for discussing challenging ideas. I dont care about your access to Your underage waifuNov 6, 2018, 3:26 PMEthan TriceCurt Doolittle I’m not even talking abt banning hentai. We’re talking specifically of the ones involving drawings of childrenNov 6, 2018, 3:27 PMEthan TriceIn those “barely 18” they’re actually 18. A drawing of a child isn’t actually of an adult just because the artist pretends it soNov 6, 2018, 3:27 PMCorbus AureliusThe problem is in the monitoring policing. Once you open it to that, reporting becomes a weapon. No hentai is really the only alternative. There’s a ton of things Christ cucks as well as intersectional feminists would love to ban, if only they had an in.Nov 6, 2018, 3:42 PMEthan TriceCorbus Aurelius are you seriously doing the slippery slope of censorship in regards to sexual depictions of children? lolbertarianism is over. saying “no child porn” and “no selling drugs to kids” is not one step away from 1984 style authoritarianism.Nov 6, 2018, 3:44 PMEthan TriceCorbus Aurelius I am not talking about banning hentai. if you want to be like Kurt Eichenwald, you can look at your tentacle nonsense, but allowing depictions of children is a line I’m not going to cross. Side note, I always thought the “hickery dickery dent, what if the child consents” was a meme about libertarians, but lo and behold, we got guys like Theo willing to die on that hill that if he can’t have access to his drawings of underage girls, he’ll shriek that you’re an evil statist.Nov 6, 2018, 3:45 PMCorbus AureliusEthan Trice I had a conversation in Gab a few months back with a guy talking about anime being degenerate and I absolutely couldn’t understand his animosity. Obviously, he was conflating the two. Once you open the door to censoring, it won’t be closed without extremely clear rules, and policing. At a million users, it may be no big deal. But when larger? Again, if advertzed as a free speech platform, if it isn’t illegal, there’s an in to an ever increasing outcry for censorship, if x why not y, reeeee. J/sNov 6, 2018, 3:54 PMTheo Weinmanthe argument that hentai is somehow child porn is as retarded as the argument that murdering someone in a vidya is the same as going on a murder spree in real life. are you seriously this un self aware and retarded? they are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS therefore no one is harmed. its exactly like blowing someones head off with a shotgun in a video game. should that be illegal too.Nov 6, 2018, 4:25 PMTheo Weinmanhow can you be this much of an NPC and not see that what you are doing is literally the same as when feminists try to ban sex dolls and porn because they “pomote the idea of raping women”Nov 6, 2018, 4:27 PMEthan TriceCorbus Aurelius dude, re-read what I wrote. I didn’t say “anime” and I’m not even talking broadly about degeneracy. I’m speaking specifically of the depictions of underage people in pornography. whether it’s a drawing of a little girl or an actual little girl. Death threats are not free speech neither is child pornography. Do not misrepresent such things as free speech or as unjust censorship when you should know betterNov 6, 2018, 4:54 PMEthan TriceTheo Weinman stop engaging in a bad faith argument. I’m not talking about banning anime or even hentai more generally. I’m talking specifically about banning depictions of children in pornography. if you are trying to get access to pictures of children, whether drawn or real, you should be in jail. don’t pretend for a moment this is “free speech”.Nov 6, 2018, 4:54 PMTheo Weinmanits not a bad faith argument, under US law artistic expression is protected under the first ammendment, unless you are actually harming real children. drawings are not real people. but by all means rally for the rights of fictional characters.Nov 6, 2018, 5:01 PMTheo Weinmanthere is a word for people who cant tell the difference between reality and fiction, delusional. you are either making a bad faith argument yourself or you believe fictional characters deserve human rights which is insanityNov 6, 2018, 5:02 PMTheo Weinmanchild pronography that depicts real children is illegal precisely because it is impossible to produce without harming children, drawings and literature harm no oneNov 6, 2018, 5:03 PMEthan TriceTheo Weinman it’s a bad faith argument when I say one thing and you say another. I’m not talking about banning all anime or even all hentai and frankly, if you’re this concerned about having access to porn of underage girls, you need to re-evaluate your priorities.Nov 6, 2018, 5:07 PMTheo Weinmanthere really is no difference, art is art. either all artistic expression is allowed as long as it doesnt involve unwilling participants or in this case child participants in its actual creation (IE unless children are hired to draw them or something) or art is limited by SJWs and moralfags who are triggered by fiction. if you are triggered by fiction you have serious issuesNov 6, 2018, 7:03 PMJeremiah GreasingTheo Weinman a drawing is cp bro.Nov 6, 2018, 9:14 PMAlastair BuckwheatWith regards to loli there’s a pretty big difference in severity between a drawing and a photograph, a photograph has involved the traumatisation or exploitation of a real human. It’s “harmless” in the sense there’s no victim but what isn’t harmless is the attraction that makes the drawing appealing in the first place. Even if perfectly legal it reflects poorly on you in the same way that enjoying extreme paraphilia pornography reflects a fundamentally unwell personality or deranged development.

It’s a moot topic in this case though, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to want to segregate pornographic material altogether from the issue of free political speech. It’s really not the same thing.Nov 6, 2018, 9:34 PMCorbus AureliusAlastair Buckwheat No. Everything is political speech. That it isn’t illegal shows that it certainly a part of free speech also. Just because you don’t like xyz about something, doesn’t mean you can just ban it.Nov 6, 2018, 9:57 PMTheo Weinmanfree speech isnt just limited to political speech it also includes freedom of artistic expression. something being derranged or offensive doesnt make it invalid or illegal. attraction isnt exactly a choice at any rate and Id rather people have access to drawings than have no other option than to offend. if you think about it loli images actually save the lives of many children.Nov 6, 2018, 9:59 PMEthan TriceCorbus Aurelius child porn is not political speech. The lolbertarian party has been lying to you.Nov 6, 2018, 10:08 PMEthan TriceTheo Weinman if you need drawings of children to keep you from raping children, just chemically castrate yourselfNov 6, 2018, 10:09 PMAlastair BuckwheatThe argument against twitter and other media censorship is that these places function effectively as the modern “public square”. That doesn’t lend itself to allowing gratuitous obscenity in public, free speech is important because it’s a political feedback mechanism not because it allows you to spread obscenity. I’m not arguing that these things should be entirely banned, but there should be a demarcation between obscene displays and speech. You have to maintain the commons.Nov 6, 2018, 10:10 PMTheo Weinmanthe difference between Gab and Twitter is that unlike Twitter Gab has chosen a hardline stance on ALL free speech not just political speech. if they wanted to they could have simply said they only support free political speech but they claim to support all free speech which is a lie. and “obscenity” is political speech in the sense that you are advocating for freedom of artistic expression.Nov 6, 2018, 10:23 PMTheo WeinmanEthan Trice child porn is not protected by the first ammendment, lolicon is. learn the difference between art and child abuse, thankNov 6, 2018, 10:23 PMTheo WeinmanI am not against family friendly platforms like Facebook banning pornography off their site as long as it is stated plainly in their TOS (which it is) but GAB allows pornography and obscene content to be posted on their platofrm. they need to make their stance clear because they are equivocating on their free speech position.Nov 6, 2018, 10:26 PMKenneth Arnoldso, CIA now hosts gab, planted 2 senior engineers & now is poised to own a 51% stake in gab. good to knowNov 7, 2018, 11:42 AMTheo WeinmanLMAO its actually a fake name I got zucced on my old account so I translated my real name into German. Im actually a Slav and this was my alt account that I made to avoid a 30 day ban.Nov 7, 2018, 6:45 PM