(FB 1546102000 Timestamp) Humor: when the neanderthal data first came out, I received quite a few insults in pseudo-argumentative form from east asians about western man’s neanderthal content – only to lately discover it’s east asians with the greater presence of neanderthal genes. Ergo. Be careful what you say when the data first comes out.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546178059 Timestamp) by Gary Knight Thinking on JBP and sovereign individualism. Itâs interesting that he often cites ancient genetic causes for hierarchy as a defence against SJW complaints regarding patriarchy and capitalism. He correctly identifies the depth of hierarchy and inequality in ancient biological programming that goes right back to our most remote ancestors. E.g. Dominance hierarchies in lobsters. Whatâs frustrating is he doesnât apply the same analogy to Western Dominance. He attributes the Christian ethic as the source of the classical liberal / enlightenment values that birthed individualism as the source of Western Success (although he doesnât say âWestern successâ explicitly. It seems apparent in my readings about indo-Europeans that the West developed sovereignty mostly as a bi-product of distributive power which was an accident of geography – sufficient rivers, fertile land, hills, crags and natural barriers to break up the European landscape into defensible City states which led cultural development away from centralised monopoly governments that formed in the Middle East, Egypt etc. I think Peterson flaw is he gives to much credit to Christianity in his arguments for promoting the sovereign individual and fails to see the ancient source code for this cultural feature. In a sense he feels the words of Abrahamism gifted us new programming for regarding the individual as sacred when it seems we had in us from our martial ethic and domestication allowed the extension of sovereignty down the classes as we had more people capable of the agency to hold the idea. Which is why Christian Africa doesnât have individualism and market success – software canât take root in hardware that canât process it. ââ- If I was to use a loose metaphor I feel like Western Sovereignty is like a European plant species that was kept tame my the conditions in which it rooted. But once conditions changed and it had its shot it just spread across the earth and dominated – but first it had to be hardened by time and circumstance. Eg The plant species Lantana species is a potted flower in the UK. Once it was exported to Australia it thrived in the sunlight and grew rampant, choking out competitors. I see Western Sovereignty the same. Shaped my marital conflict over distributive geography and then once the conditions changes it became hyper-fertile and encompassed the world.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546178059 Timestamp) by Gary Knight Thinking on JBP and sovereign individualism. Itâs interesting that he often cites ancient genetic causes for hierarchy as a defence against SJW complaints regarding patriarchy and capitalism. He correctly identifies the depth of hierarchy and inequality in ancient biological programming that goes right back to our most remote ancestors. E.g. Dominance hierarchies in lobsters. Whatâs frustrating is he doesnât apply the same analogy to Western Dominance. He attributes the Christian ethic as the source of the classical liberal / enlightenment values that birthed individualism as the source of Western Success (although he doesnât say âWestern successâ explicitly. It seems apparent in my readings about indo-Europeans that the West developed sovereignty mostly as a bi-product of distributive power which was an accident of geography – sufficient rivers, fertile land, hills, crags and natural barriers to break up the European landscape into defensible City states which led cultural development away from centralised monopoly governments that formed in the Middle East, Egypt etc. I think Peterson flaw is he gives to much credit to Christianity in his arguments for promoting the sovereign individual and fails to see the ancient source code for this cultural feature. In a sense he feels the words of Abrahamism gifted us new programming for regarding the individual as sacred when it seems we had in us from our martial ethic and domestication allowed the extension of sovereignty down the classes as we had more people capable of the agency to hold the idea. Which is why Christian Africa doesnât have individualism and market success – software canât take root in hardware that canât process it. ââ- If I was to use a loose metaphor I feel like Western Sovereignty is like a European plant species that was kept tame my the conditions in which it rooted. But once conditions changed and it had its shot it just spread across the earth and dominated – but first it had to be hardened by time and circumstance. Eg The plant species Lantana species is a potted flower in the UK. Once it was exported to Australia it thrived in the sunlight and grew rampant, choking out competitors. I see Western Sovereignty the same. Shaped my marital conflict over distributive geography and then once the conditions changes it became hyper-fertile and encompassed the world.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546302111 Timestamp) GETTING TIRED OF LITTLE BOYS WITH COMIC BOOK IDEAS RIDING ON THE COATTAILS If anything is to be said, in furtherance of some set of ideas, it must be said about the totality of the market of ideas, not just me and mine. Or it is, as is obviously the case, in this case, just an attempt at drawing attention from that which is successful to that and those who are unsuccessful. Little boys have little boy dreams, of little boy complexity. Men raise, armies, organize logistics, and write laws, and build institutions, because men understand organization at scale – because they have built organizations at scale. Little boys likewise play ‘climb on to the coattails’ of better men. Because they have no experience with constructing ideas, organizations, or solving problems more complicated than those in comic books. Proclamations are not arguments. If it is necessary for me to invest time in further humiliation pretenders, I’m loathe to waste my time at it, but happy to do good service. But these feeble attempts at getting attention with sophisms are embarrassing. And frankly I consider responding beneath me. Since anyone stupid enough to be so fooled is not someone that is helpful to an intellectual movement, nor safe enough to allow to carry arms. Please stop wasting my time with coat-tailing. -Curt Doolittle — VIA ANONYMOUS — (1) Militia “sovereignty” and rule by law are myths. Someone must always rule, someone must decide on the exception. Pushing Middle sovereignty is just continuing the same liberal hysteria against authority, which has led to the HLvM as the logical result. The HLvM won’t stop until we either acquire language better able to validate sovereign authority or war and collapse our tribal structures down low enough where we are able to make such validations, which would represent a massive civilizational regression, all while not possessing those linguistic innovations we would need to scale back up. (2) In evaluating reciprocity, the dimensional tests of identity are not actually how humans evaluate a moral context. Human language is not a closed, declarative system, as much as Curt needs it to be. We wouldn’t even have self-consciousness if language was a closed system, recursive as he still will claim it to be. Curt is a computer scientist trying to force a computer paradigm on to humans, and he ironically hasn’t done the due diligence he speaks so much about by widely studying philosophy of language. Chomsky himself wouldn’t support the simple Shannon-Weaver model of language that Curt’s operationalism relies on, and the field of linguistics has gone so much further than Chomsky by now, into cognition and intentionality, not “signals” and identical “operations” (how computers “communicate,” except that they’re not even self-conscious agents, so it’s a projected metaphor by an anti-philosopher). I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it, again: what is good in Propertarianism (pragmatist legal theory, i.e. unloading claims into processable ‘chunks’) is unoriginalâjurists have naturally known and done such things since the very beginning. The problem would then lie in why our elites have incentives for a HLvM, and the solution to that isn’t doubling-down on why the elites have incentives for a HLvM (hysteria against pre-declarative authority). What is bad in Propertarianism is loosely ‘original’, but in the sense that it’s the latest iteration of the disease of scientistic liberalism. So, we’re left with what you concluded the show with: who watches the watchers, what are the mechanisms of moral accountability? Is it authoritarianismâ’absolutism’? Is it rule by lawâ’nomocracy’? Well, we’d have to drill down on theory of language to answer that question (the short answer is that, yes, there must always be a leader of any size groupâsomeone must always be leading discourse and shaping linguistic frames, but also that there is a moral feedback loop; it’s just not ultimately validated through declarative science), and I think once you do that you’ll see how empty Propertarianism comes up, but it’s okay, because there are plenty enough intelligent people who’ve come before you through his system and have been doing work exploring and filling in gaps that he refused to. I don’t mean that reassurance patronizingly. There are many reasons, trivial and dire, moral and practical, why these naive, young men shouldn’t get led astray with a half-baked, anti-human system.
—- VIA MEGAN USUI Megan K. Usui —- Are you saying the Curt does not think there should be a ruler for a city and nation state in addition to the law? The ruler should follow the law in most cases but everyone knows about war and other extreme cases? — ???? via unknown — Oh, he has been known to talk about constitutional monarchy, but it’s the same anti-absolutism, for humoring ‘constitutionally limited’ (he also seems to think absolutism implies completely arbitrary, out-of-nowhere dictates, which is what a tyrant does, not a leader). When we can finally get past a naive view of language, absolutism (and everyday experiences inside human groups) makes complete sense. It opens up other areas of inquiry more helpful to resolving modern politics. Of course, I’m not going to be going around, trying to ideologically convince people of ‘absolutism’, like it’s some kind of historical aesthetic. We should use the discourse of the day and seek to be harmonizing the culture. Sometimes, self-defense will be necessary, but it’s a serious problem if a system only has threats of violence and bribery as motivations. A system with no way of speaking of the sacred is going to be left with only commerce and violenceâvery modern, very confused.
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(FB 1546368914 Timestamp) Guy blocked me for the truth while defending molly. 😉
(FB 1546368914 Timestamp) Guy blocked me for the truth while defending molly. 😉
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546366049 Timestamp) I wanna talk to Molly about doing a smack down on Taleb. The community would benefit from this discussion. I would like to cover taleb’s original insight, and how he is applying it outside it’s limits, and in doing so largely deflate his IQ position, illustrate why he’s just talking pseudoscience to justify his racial biases, while reinforcing his via-negativa argument as a general rule. It’s not that difficult but it will be better to have molly’s popularity and my arguments together because they will flatten Taleb on this issue. Can anyone contact someone who can try to arrange this?
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546348761 Timestamp) (From Twitter: putting an end to Nassim Taleb’s insight, edited a bit for clarity) WARNING: this is part of an ongoing debate on twitter between Molyneux and Taleb on intelligence and it is a controversial topic for Facebook. Unfortunately, this is a debate that must occur because is of profound importance for humanity – our values are not always survivable. Hence I’m sharing only with ‘Friends’. Nassim (all), IQ describes a curve. East and west are superior for having culled underclass reproduction, while center have failed to cull underclass reproduction. So, to reverse your statement: “I can understand loving one’s people, and apologizing for one’s people, but denying the science is quite sinister.” Other ‘peoples’ are ‘inferior’ (meaning poorer) socially, economically, politically, and militarily because of Pareto problem created by the size of their lower classes in relation to their upper classes. Hence continuous middle eastern failure under underclass religion and rule. Despite the wealth of possessing the optimum trade routes, the middle east was unable to fix this problem. Stephan is Correct. IQ (meaning, the relative size of genetic classes as measured by rate of learning), is the MOST important factor in group wealth. PERIOD. This is because trust and trustworthiness increase in concert with cognitive ability. Nassim: Your ‘admiration’ for a certain class of individuals is unscientific as well: they and their behavior are why no large corporations, and only smaller (inefficient) organizations. Our ‘clerical’ education and society, is why we HAVE large (efficient) corporations. In other words YOU ARE DESPERATELY WRONG. Relative wealth = demographics. Nassim, so if you hadn’t taken up this particular issue it wouldn’t have made me pay attention to, and understood, the catastrophic error in your conflation of individual speculators and the political orders in which wealth potential of such people is possible. YOU ARE WRONG. Nassim: The west, despite beginning with Aryanism (sovereignty and tort law), and Aristotelianism (empiricism), SURVIVED the first wave of Semiticism (Abrahamism) because of genetic reserves. Every other civilization that has tolerated Semiticism has been destroyed by the continuous expansion of the underclasses.We are in the process of not-surviving the second wave of Semiticism. Nassim: So I just unfortunately realized that your FatTony et all, sensibility is just Semitic hatred of high trust peoples who produce their extraordinary wealth by the production of COMMONS. And this insight, if widely understood will destroy your reputation even further. You think that our high-trust people, are ‘suckers’ when it is precisely that social order and those values that allow us to produce the commons that make high returns possible, while those historical peoples you (out of racial bias) favor, were NEVER ABLE TO, because of ‘petty profiting’ that you favor.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546302111 Timestamp) GETTING TIRED OF LITTLE BOYS WITH COMIC BOOK IDEAS RIDING ON THE COATTAILS If anything is to be said, in furtherance of some set of ideas, it must be said about the totality of the market of ideas, not just me and mine. Or it is, as is obviously the case, in this case, just an attempt at drawing attention from that which is successful to that and those who are unsuccessful. Little boys have little boy dreams, of little boy complexity. Men raise, armies, organize logistics, and write laws, and build institutions, because men understand organization at scale – because they have built organizations at scale. Little boys likewise play ‘climb on to the coattails’ of better men. Because they have no experience with constructing ideas, organizations, or solving problems more complicated than those in comic books. Proclamations are not arguments. If it is necessary for me to invest time in further humiliation pretenders, I’m loathe to waste my time at it, but happy to do good service. But these feeble attempts at getting attention with sophisms are embarrassing. And frankly I consider responding beneath me. Since anyone stupid enough to be so fooled is not someone that is helpful to an intellectual movement, nor safe enough to allow to carry arms. Please stop wasting my time with coat-tailing. -Curt Doolittle — VIA ANONYMOUS — (1) Militia “sovereignty” and rule by law are myths. Someone must always rule, someone must decide on the exception. Pushing Middle sovereignty is just continuing the same liberal hysteria against authority, which has led to the HLvM as the logical result. The HLvM won’t stop until we either acquire language better able to validate sovereign authority or war and collapse our tribal structures down low enough where we are able to make such validations, which would represent a massive civilizational regression, all while not possessing those linguistic innovations we would need to scale back up. (2) In evaluating reciprocity, the dimensional tests of identity are not actually how humans evaluate a moral context. Human language is not a closed, declarative system, as much as Curt needs it to be. We wouldn’t even have self-consciousness if language was a closed system, recursive as he still will claim it to be. Curt is a computer scientist trying to force a computer paradigm on to humans, and he ironically hasn’t done the due diligence he speaks so much about by widely studying philosophy of language. Chomsky himself wouldn’t support the simple Shannon-Weaver model of language that Curt’s operationalism relies on, and the field of linguistics has gone so much further than Chomsky by now, into cognition and intentionality, not “signals” and identical “operations” (how computers “communicate,” except that they’re not even self-conscious agents, so it’s a projected metaphor by an anti-philosopher). I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it, again: what is good in Propertarianism (pragmatist legal theory, i.e. unloading claims into processable ‘chunks’) is unoriginalâjurists have naturally known and done such things since the very beginning. The problem would then lie in why our elites have incentives for a HLvM, and the solution to that isn’t doubling-down on why the elites have incentives for a HLvM (hysteria against pre-declarative authority). What is bad in Propertarianism is loosely ‘original’, but in the sense that it’s the latest iteration of the disease of scientistic liberalism. So, we’re left with what you concluded the show with: who watches the watchers, what are the mechanisms of moral accountability? Is it authoritarianismâ’absolutism’? Is it rule by lawâ’nomocracy’? Well, we’d have to drill down on theory of language to answer that question (the short answer is that, yes, there must always be a leader of any size groupâsomeone must always be leading discourse and shaping linguistic frames, but also that there is a moral feedback loop; it’s just not ultimately validated through declarative science), and I think once you do that you’ll see how empty Propertarianism comes up, but it’s okay, because there are plenty enough intelligent people who’ve come before you through his system and have been doing work exploring and filling in gaps that he refused to. I don’t mean that reassurance patronizingly. There are many reasons, trivial and dire, moral and practical, why these naive, young men shouldn’t get led astray with a half-baked, anti-human system.
—- VIA MEGAN USUI Megan K. Usui —- Are you saying the Curt does not think there should be a ruler for a city and nation state in addition to the law? The ruler should follow the law in most cases but everyone knows about war and other extreme cases? — ???? via unknown — Oh, he has been known to talk about constitutional monarchy, but it’s the same anti-absolutism, for humoring ‘constitutionally limited’ (he also seems to think absolutism implies completely arbitrary, out-of-nowhere dictates, which is what a tyrant does, not a leader). When we can finally get past a naive view of language, absolutism (and everyday experiences inside human groups) makes complete sense. It opens up other areas of inquiry more helpful to resolving modern politics. Of course, I’m not going to be going around, trying to ideologically convince people of ‘absolutism’, like it’s some kind of historical aesthetic. We should use the discourse of the day and seek to be harmonizing the culture. Sometimes, self-defense will be necessary, but it’s a serious problem if a system only has threats of violence and bribery as motivations. A system with no way of speaking of the sacred is going to be left with only commerce and violenceâvery modern, very confused.
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(FB 1546368914 Timestamp) Guy blocked me for the truth while defending molly. 😉
(FB 1546368914 Timestamp) Guy blocked me for the truth while defending molly. 😉
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546366049 Timestamp) I wanna talk to Molly about doing a smack down on Taleb. The community would benefit from this discussion. I would like to cover taleb’s original insight, and how he is applying it outside it’s limits, and in doing so largely deflate his IQ position, illustrate why he’s just talking pseudoscience to justify his racial biases, while reinforcing his via-negativa argument as a general rule. It’s not that difficult but it will be better to have molly’s popularity and my arguments together because they will flatten Taleb on this issue. Can anyone contact someone who can try to arrange this?