Category: Commentary, Critique, and Response

  • I think the central problem with Stupidtarians is that they never had any introd

    I think the central problem with Stupidtarians is that they never had any introduction to the philosophy of science, analytic philosophy, or the law, prior to exposure to Rousseauian-Kantian-Rabbinnical sophisms.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 17:00:00 UTC

  • ANOTHER HOPPEIAN MORON BITES THE DUST —“Special pleading by polylogism and ign

    ANOTHER HOPPEIAN MORON BITES THE DUST

    —“Special pleading by polylogism and ignoring a question from earlier. The question summarized was: How would it be non-reciprocal to “physically remove” property violators/externals when they have already estopped themselves, and are prohibited from appealing in their own defense, by the fact that they are externals, and already do not reciprocate prima facie, why would I be wrong to physically remove them?”—David German Hoppe

    You clearly use words you don’t understand. It fools fellow useful idiots I’m sure. 😉

    —“How would it be non-reciprocal to “physically remove” property violators/externals when they have already estopped themselves, and are prohibited from appealing in their own defense, by the fact that they are externals, and already do not reciprocate prima facie, why would I be wrong to physically remove them?”—

    DEFINITIONS

    Polylogism:

    The proposition that different groups of people reason in fundamentally different ways vs the proposition that the logical faculty remains constant across all sentient beings and that different groups use different values not different logics.

    Estoppel:

    … juridical prohibition on reversing a claim made before the court, or a decision on which the court has already ruled. (one may not change one’s testimony or revisit a decision by the court).

    Reciprocity:

    … limiting one’s words and deeds to those that affect the demonstrated interest of others to productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfer, free of imposition on the demonstrated interests of others by externality.

    Internal or Ingroup vs external or outgroup:

    … Members of a family , clan, tribe, nation, polity reliant on the same institutions of defense: military, and juridical, under the same organization performing the production of commons: government, within the same jurisdiction (monopoly of control).

    EXPANDED INTO COMPLETE SENTENCES

    WHEREAS

    A plaintiff, having been injured by an irreciprocity, has made an appeal to the court in its role as insurer of reciprocity for a judicial decision demanding the court produce restitution, punishment, and prevention of further irreciprocities,

    WHERE

    The court performed its function as insurer against irreciprocity and rendered a judicial decision.

    AND WHERE

    The defendant was convicted of engaging in sufficient irreciprocity that he cannot perform restitution, or the judiciary (prosecutor) predicts it cannot prevent from further acts of irreciprocity.

    AND WHERE

    That decision consisted of issuing orders, compelling enforcers of that judicial decision to physically remove an individual from the polity.

    — EITHER —

    WHERE (Note: this is unclear)

    – the actor (defendant) has already *voluntarily* departed the jurisdiction (Territory),

    AND

    – the actor is prohibited from juridical defense, by virtue of their absence from the territory,

    AND

    – ???? NON-SEQUITUR: and already do not reciprocate prima facie, why would I be wrong to physically remove them?)

    — OR —

    ??? (Unknown, Please Clarify)

    SHALL THEREFORE

    – This action cause one or more irreciprocal transfers between any parties involved or uninvolved, whether internal or external.

    DECISON

    – Undecidable.

    EXPLANATION

    – Given the phrases:

    “… and already do not reciprocate prima facie, why would I be wrong to physically remove them?”

    – Expanded into :

    “… and WHO? already do not engage in reciprocal words and deeds, under what conditions would I as plaintiff violate reciprocity myself by physically removing him FROM WHERE?

    COUNSEL:

    The court makes up to six decisions:

    1. was an involuntary negative change in demonstrated interest (harm) performed?,

    2. was the defendant responsible for the negative change in demonstrated interest?

    3. was it by unpredictable accident regardless of due diligence, or because of a failure of rational due diligence, or was it an act of intention, or an act of passion (failure of emotional due diligence)? While restitution is demanded consistently across the spectrum, prevention of repetition is is not, and the imitation of the violation by others is not.

    IF SO THEN:

    4. What is the restitution? (Compensation)

    5. What will prevent the defendant’s repetition? (Punishment)

    6. What will prevent others from repeating the defendants actions? (Setting an Example)

    TIPS

    You’re using polylogism where you mean error (a pretention)

    I don’t underseatnd how you’re using estoppel, “Stopping”, as other an analogy to some sort of personal choice. Or do you mean he’s been removed from the polity and that’s defacto stopping him? (a pretention)

    How can one defend against an extant judgement?

    We conduct prosecutions in absentia all the time.

    Most of law is procedure, the institutional structure is presumed (it’s a competitive marketplace in common law, and system of administration in continental).

    Jurisprudence consist of the limits upon the judge, usually which consist of a conflict between customary law, empirical evidence of the findings of the court, and the degree of interference in that law by the state.

    We study cases and principles by which problems are solved -general rules. Rules increase in complexity by discipline as do findings of the courts.

    P constitutes the logic of the jurisprudence of natural law, of reciprocity under individual sovereignty, but is dependent upon testimony, and the capacity of the polity to perform testimony, in the form of testimonial truth: observables.

    Empiricism and science are just the application of our ancient law of tort and testimony to claims about that which is an intellectual interests rather than merely a material one.

    You are not capable of schooling me.

    Nor is Hans.

    I would eat him like Pringles and beer in a debate.

    He teaches y’all sophisms converted from jewish pilpul to kantian rationalism and you soak it up like marxists below you and neocons above you.

    😉


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 13:04:00 UTC

  • 2 Years AgoEric Danelaw updated his status.Oct 7, 2017, 10:27 AM”You must never

    2 Years AgoEric Danelaw updated his status.Oct 7, 2017, 10:27 AM”You must never ever ever generalize about Muslims on the basis of the behavior of some of them. But that’s precisely what you must do in the case of gun owners.” -Kenneth Allen Hopf

    In other words, a double standard is a violation of reciprocity and under natural law is a crime.Updated Oct 7, 2019, 11:25 AM


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 11:25:00 UTC

  • 2 Years AgoEric Danelaw updated his status.Oct 7, 2017, 1:31 PM—-“Occam’s razo

    2 Years AgoEric Danelaw updated his status.Oct 7, 2017, 1:31 PM—-“Occam’s razor is racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic.”—Ross Lampers

    Um. Evolution doesn’t have a choice but to practice Occam’s Razor. It doesn’t have the choice to waste energy.Updated Oct 7, 2019, 11:25 AM


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 11:25:00 UTC

  • THERE ARE NO CRITICS OF P – JUST OF ME. BUT WHY? —“In my encounters, it always

    THERE ARE NO CRITICS OF P – JUST OF ME. BUT WHY?

    —“In my encounters, it always seems to be criticism of you, or of your writing style, but never actually about P.”–Benjamin Ireland

    Always.

    People don’t want to prove that they have the knowledge of the convictions in which they have courage. 😉

    Part of preventing the hero, cult label, or priest attributions requires I don’t adopt the staging of hero, cult leader, or priest, and stick with king of the hill games. “Come and get me.” or “I’m coming for you.”

    This offends people who want a priest (F), not a king (M)

    And that’s partly intentional. You automatically get respect from a priest (F), but you must earn it from a king (M).

    This ‘never appeal to them by any means but argument, and never reward anything but argument’ is ‘disrespectful’ to the more feminine minds.

    Because I have to keep it about THE WORK and not ME.

    And anyone who has followed me long enough knows it.

    People desperately want leaders with agency.

    I desperately want to create leaders with agency.

    I’d undermine myself if I tried to be the cult leader people accuse me of or want.

    It’s about the work. You can make a P argument or not.

    It’s about making leaders. Not me leading.

    It’s about creating a movement to counter and reverse the century of lying.

    It’s about a constitution that is durable, and provides a market for the defense of our civilization.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 10:47:00 UTC

  • PETERSON, MOLY, YARVIN, MACDONALD, DUCHESNE, DUTTON AND DOOLITTLE Peterson is a

    PETERSON, MOLY, YARVIN, MACDONALD, DUCHESNE, DUTTON AND DOOLITTLE

    Peterson is a therapist telling you it will all be ok if you take the buddhist strategy and retreat into changing yourself. Molyneux is a therapist feeding you information, moral confirmation, and emotional sedation. Yarvin is a storyteller explaining that what you’re sensing is wrong with the world, is indeed wrong, and why. MacDonald is an academic explaining the cause of what’s wrong and why. Duchesne is telling us why and how and why we were uniquely successful. Dutton is telling us the science of why we were right. And Doolittle (me) is a jurist telling you we were right, the solution to the restoration, and how to force it’s implementation.

    Learn from everyone. But the end of your Journey is Propertarianism: Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Truth, Duty, Jury, and Markets in Everything.

    Start with John Mark. Follow Brandon and Michael Hayes for contributions from the propertarians. Learn from the Sheepdogs. Take our course in Foundations.

    It’s time to return to rule. Of yourself, your polity, and the world, in self defense.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 10:25:00 UTC

  • PHYSICAL REMOVAL HUMOR —“Don’t forget to consider that the ocean is a possible

    PHYSICAL REMOVAL HUMOR

    —“Don’t forget to consider that the ocean is a possible location for said physical removal… so to speak.”— Jarrod Marma

    —“Ocean pollution! ;)”—Alba Rising

    —“Yes, and unlike plastic, they’re fully biodegradeable…”–James Dmitro Makienko


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 10:02:00 UTC

  • WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR A SUBSTANTIVE CRITICISM OF PROPERTARIANISM AND … WE N

    WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR A SUBSTANTIVE CRITICISM OF PROPERTARIANISM AND … WE NEVER GET ONE.

    Here is another straw man (or what I call ’empty hat’).

    —“I am not sure what you want them to criticize. What has propertarianism accomplished? Where has it been applied in a meaningful way that can be measured? Which governments have based their foundational documents and legal systems on P? Of those, how many have gathered meaningful statistical data on P itself in practice? So far, all I have ever seen is a shit load of thought experiments. Some ideas based on statistical data sure, but no statistical data of a deployment of P in a real world government and/or legal system.

    Until such a time as this can be done people are left in a situation not unlike the pre Bolshevik era in which many people can speculate but have no real evidence.

    Propertarianism until such time is unsubstantiated speculation. I do think it’s interesting that anybody who disagrees just doesn’t “understand.” Now that is a Marxist echo if I ever heard one.”— Clifton Knox

    I can criticize Marx on his first premises, and so can anyone else, we all know that the premises are false. Try to criticize P on any such premise. Go ahead.

    —“Where has it been applied in a meaningful way that can be measured? Which governments have based their foundational documents and legal systems on P?”—

    Same thing I can say for hoppe and rothbard, right? So how is that a defense of their work vs mine?

    P is a continuation of the anglo rule of law by creating the long-sought-after means of strict construction free of interpetation of the law. Pretty much the entire anglo world runs upon it (although with weak constitutions everywhere).

    You can’t claim rule of law isn’t practiced, only that P-law applied to speech isn’t practiced. And even there that’s questionable because we do it all the time in commercial cases.

    —“Where has it been applied in a meaningful way that can be measured? Which governments have based their foundational documents and legal systems on P?”—

    How long did it take Smith/Hume, Marx, Aristotle to be applied? Darwin is still struggling against the entire abrahamic project? How is that a criticism? I haven’t even published yet. Although we ARE teaching it and our movement is growing.

    —“Which governments have based their foundational documents and legal systems on P? Of those, how many have gathered meaningful statistical data on P itself in practice? So far, all I have ever seen is a shit load of thought experiments.”—

    P consists of multiple works. The logic of cognitive science, logic of social science, the logic of language, and the logic of law under sovereignty and reciprocity, how to construct a range of constitutions under it, and an explanation of why it evolved in the west, but could be imitated by any group able to construct a sufficient demographic by use of soft eugenics.

    P is a continuation of the anglo tradition of rule of law by the common law, where the common law is reducible to tort. It is the most continuous form of government in europe, the tradition, at least in the northern realm, is somewhere near 5000 years old. So rule of law, particularly by monarchy, and houses of the classes, was discovered in northern europe during the middle ages, but it’s not like we havent practiced it in some form or other for millennia.

    P is most analogous to a programming language – operational logic, which is where I took the model from – You can construct ANY form of government with it as long as it consists of articulation as reciprocity and trades within reciprocity. I know this because I”ve tried. Aristotle, and the Founders wrote a constitution, why didn’t Hoppe or Rothbard?

    That’s the only argumentative ‘test’ of a theory of politics, isn’t it? Even if survival of a polity under it is the only empirical test. If you can’t write a constitution you are just talking smack. Aristotle did, the founders did, and I am doing it.

    —“Propertarianism until such time is unsubstantiated speculation”—

    Well you know, how is that a criticism vs hoppe and rothbard?

    It’s very easy to test P-logic and P-law. so far it’s flawless.

    P is a formal OPERATIONAL logic, and the first formal operational logic of social science, that can be used to compose constitutions, amendments, legislation, regulation, and findings of the court. Mises didn’t understand (and neither does Hoppe) that all logics are falsificationary, and operational logic the most falsificationary possible by human beings because it requires we falsify every dimension of consistency (constant relations) perceivable by man.

    You can test P over and over again as many of us have now: try to state a falsehood in testimonial form, operational language.

    Do it and illustrate that you can. For example, both ordinary language logic and formal logic (symbolic) can be criticized, empiricism can be ….

    I’ve written an argument (“Ruling”) for every substantial question of political conflict I can find, in some degree of completeness. I know. I’ve done it. And people are always blown away by them. they just take time.

    What you have done so far is use a STRAW MAN.

    SO:

    (a) yes rule of law has been tried and is successful – its the holy grail of all peoples. We live under it.

    (b) every one of P’s operational logics is open to criticism by falsification. Go ahead and try. If it’s LAW it must be open to logical analysis. It’s not an empirical question.

    (c) all constitutions will produce conflict because we all seek advantages over others with different abilities and interests.

    However, rule of law (and the constitution I’m writing) prohibit the use of via-positiva coercion and force people using via-negativa-law into the markets for cooperation rather than tolerating imposition of costs upon others.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 09:35:00 UTC

  • What does monetarily efficient defense mean, and why is that good? And why are y

    What does monetarily efficient defense mean, and why is that good? And why are you claiming america and finland were not governments or states?

    (Don’t use words like ‘disprove, premise, and conclusion’ (logic) when you’re argument is by analogy.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-07 00:10:11 UTC

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  • JOKER IS A MASTERWORK – OR AT LEAST PHOENIX’S ACTING IS. Whatever else, Joker is

    JOKER IS A MASTERWORK – OR AT LEAST PHOENIX’S ACTING IS.

    Whatever else, Joker is a masterwork. Mostly because of Phoenix’s work. He carries it – unquestionably. He is spectacular. Directing is good, editing is flawless to the point of perfection, script is.. adequate, even predictable. It’s so derivative of taxi-driver that it started to get on my nerves. Partly because I grew up in that period and it was horrid. I remember the 60’s to 80’s just fine – when the liberal experiment in social leniency collapsed our civilization rapidly. Ending rescue is weak. I don’t see how it’s gruesome or violent, or anything else objectionable- at least compared to the genre it inherits from. It’s tame by comparison. Rob Zombie? Refn? Winterbottom? Peckinpah? Even Hitchcock? I think that the severity and intensity with which Phoenix illustrates the character, and captures our attention, reduces one’s ability to emotionally separate into an observer like we do with more mythological (hyperbolic) narratives. I was riveted. Whether or not it’s oscar worthy material is different from whether or not its an oscar worthy performance – and that’s unquestionable. Not quite Daniel Day Lewis but certainly, without question, approaching that level of excellence. )


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-06 23:09:00 UTC