Category: Commentary, Critique, and Response

  • RT @Outsideness: “And now it all makes sense why Americans are rushing to gun st

    RT @Outsideness: “And now it all makes sense why Americans are rushing to gun stores …” https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/west-faces-social-bomb-pandemic-sparks-unrest-among-poorest


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 14:27:40 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244270002741612546

  • HHH took argumentation ethics from Habermas (Marist). He used Kantian rationalis

    HHH took argumentation ethics from Habermas (Marist). He used Kantian rationalism. He used Rothbardian Ethics. And he tried (understandably) to recreate the German Free Cities project, like Rothbard did the Jewish Pale, and Me the British Empire.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 14:23:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244268955507789825

    Reply addressees: @LLaddon

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244267109573636097

  • The problem is, Stefan doesn’t debate anyone worthy of debating. I originally wa

    The problem is, Stefan doesn’t debate anyone worthy of debating.

    I originally wanted to influence him to lead libertarians along the path. Now I just want him to stop doing harm by preventing them from moving onward.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 14:18:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244267658071113728

    Reply addressees: @LLaddon

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244267011909320705


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    @LLaddon Yes, although for example, last night he used argumentation ethics in error to do that. People don’t correct you out of a universal good or truth – but to deny your means of persuading or coerce them. Hoppe makes similar errors.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1244267011909320705

  • You can try to nudge an opiner and the audience a bit but you can’t really educa

    You can try to nudge an opiner and the audience a bit but you can’t really educate them. And thinking about the big questions is hard enough, discussing them with those who don’t or can’t is far harder, and in my case also trying to get people to think in systems is impossible.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 13:48:14 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244260080016556033

    Reply addressees: @LLaddon

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244258814314139650


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    @LLaddon I like JFG for many personal reasons, but he is an “opiner” (commentator), and entertainer, not a public intellectual (scholar, thought leader, idea generator), and that is one of the reasons his followers are attracted to him – that he speaks to them in their voice (I dont).

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1244258814314139650

  • I like JFG for many personal reasons, but he is an “opiner” (commentator), and e

    I like JFG for many personal reasons, but he is an “opiner” (commentator), and entertainer, not a public intellectual (scholar, thought leader, idea generator), and that is one of the reasons his followers are attracted to him – that he speaks to them in their voice (I dont).


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 13:43:13 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244258814314139650

    Reply addressees: @LLaddon

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244249079745576960

  • SUMMARY OF JFG/DOOLITTLE ON THE MOLYNEUX DEBATE That was fun. I always enjoy JF.

    SUMMARY OF JFG/DOOLITTLE ON THE MOLYNEUX DEBATE

    That was fun. I always enjoy JF. The public isn’t used to seeing how philosophy, law, science and math are done between practitioners – tediously precisely. I realize this kind of thing is difficult for the audience. And JF has to keep the audience engaged. Between my long expositions and jf’s audience representation it required a little cat herding on my part. That said, I think we got there.

    SUMMARY:

    (a) we are born with a distribution of moral preferences (Demand for treatment from others, and resistance to demands from other)s,

    (b) we exercise our moral preferences in a market competition for cooperation wherein we discover cooperation (sexual, social, economic, political, military) with people that satisfy our moral preferences,

    (c) groups of people increase in a division of labor and as they do so converge on moral norms (requirements for cooperation) that allow them to cooperatively succeed in their geographic, demographic, economic, institutional, and military conditions – and some of these they institute as laws (punishments for violations)

    (d) across human groups we converge on the same underlying rule within each of those different markets (e) that rule is reciprocity that preserves cooperation and prevents retaliation, within the limits of proportionality that cause members to defect.

    (e) but moral rules are only useful in creating and preserving cooperation and the outsized returns on cooperation,

    (f) and cooperation must be more beneficial than parasitism(free riding, black markets, rent seeking, corruption etc), and predation (conquest).

    (g) all human organizations of all kinds seek the minimum morality, maximum free riding, rent seeking, and corruption until there is insufficient free capital to incentivize adjustment to shocks, and the civilization collapses

    (h) so there is no moral rule outside of the utility of cooperation because ‘moral’ can only mean ‘within the limits of reciprocity and proportionality among those of us cooperating’. There is no morality in war.

    (i) the only universal moral rule is reciprocity – do not impose costs, including risks, directly or indirectly upon the demonstrated interests of others in your group.

    (j) there are no possible via positiva universal moral statements. Anything that is not immoral (reciprocal) is moral. People who claim otherwise are engaging in an act of fraud by claiming their preference must be paid for by others irreciprocally. They claim debts or injustice when there is none.

    SERIES:

    Evil < Criminal < Unethical < Immoral < Amoral > Moral > Ethical > Virtuous > Righteous

    CLOSING

    As such, JF was correct at the personal level in that all individuals demonstrate variation in moral demand of others;;

    And SM was half right at the socio-political level, and half right at the universal level, but stated the via positiva preference for a good instead of via negativa prohibition on the bad.

    In this sense both parties, adopting ideal types, rather than the use of series, talked past each other.

    P-law makes use of disambiguation through “operationalism, competition, and serialization’, and relies on the logic of incentives, supply and demand.

    We convert psychological , social, legal and political concepts into economic terms to take advantage of the minimization of error that results, at the expense of more reasoning and less intuiting.

    -Cheers


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 13:27:00 UTC

  • SUMMARY OF JFG/DOOLITTLE ON THE MOLYNEUX DEBATE That was fun. I always enjoy JF.

    SUMMARY OF JFG/DOOLITTLE ON THE MOLYNEUX DEBATE

    That was fun. I always enjoy JF. The public isn’t used to seeing how philosophy, law, science and math are done between practitioners – tediously precisely. I realize this kind of thing is difficult for th… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GRzHdA3lio


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 11:32:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244225873324191745

  • LEARN SOMETHING: DOOLITTLE on the JFG/MOLYNEUX Debate from 0:00 to 1:12:00 ( Ste

    LEARN SOMETHING:
    DOOLITTLE on the JFG/MOLYNEUX Debate
    from 0:00 to 1:12:00
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GRzHdA3lio

    ( Stefan Molyneux )

    NOTES PRIOR TO SHOW:

    WHY IS CURT DOOLITTLE SO HOSTILE IN REFORMING LIBERTARIANISM INTO SOVEREIGNTARIANISM?
    https://ift.tt/2wKmfV6… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GRzHdA3lio


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 11:32:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244225871881388032

  • MAINTAIN OUR EXPECTATIONS OF ONE ANOTHER. THE BIG IDEAS ARE DIFFICULT OR THEY WO

    MAINTAIN OUR EXPECTATIONS OF ONE ANOTHER. THE BIG IDEAS ARE DIFFICULT OR THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED.

    —“Not sure why [censored] JFG, would bring up Manhattan distance something which he clearly doesn’t understand. You were correct in – and multiple times caught him cascading off to some absurdity, as he did against M.”—Hans Hermeme Hoppe @LLaddon

    I like JFG for many personal reasons, but he is an “opiner” (commentator), and entertainer, not a public intellectual (scholar, thought leader, idea generator), and that is one of the reasons his followers are attracted to him – that he speaks to them in their voice (I dont).

    You can try to nudge an opiner and the audience a bit but you can’t really educate them. And thinking about the big questions is hard enough, discussing them with those who don’t or can’t is far harder, and in my case also trying to get people to think in systems is impossible.

    I’m sure JF is a good researcher, but the purpose of learning philosophy is developing a skill in how not to err. After that you need to know enough fields not to err. Knowing math, physics, cog sci, economics, law, and history is hard. … So people rarely learn not to err.

    And we all defend our investments. Because our conceptual investments – especially if they are error loaded – form a map of the conceptual world we cannot travel through life without.

    So loss aversion kicks in and we defend our priors.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-29 11:30:00 UTC

  • Here. Let me educate you a bit. It’s entry level. You might be able to manage it

    Here. Let me educate you a bit. It’s entry level. You might be able to manage it

    Here. Let me educate you a bit.
    It’s entry level. You might be able to manage it. https://t.co/HQPyZH0e3W


    Source date (UTC): 2020-03-28 21:51:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244019261053571073

    Reply addressees: @spacepencilcase

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244018419521007616