Category: Commentary, Critique, and Response

  • (it was hot) Does symbolism, purity, honor, matter? Why do you care more abuot l

    (it was hot) Does symbolism, purity, honor, matter? Why do you care more abuot living THROUGH someone else like this is a video game, rather than showing up and getting it done?


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-12 11:46:27 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1282280156426625029

    Reply addressees: @JackFriday187

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1282239581241241600

  • “The mistake was having you lead that rally, you yourself has said that you’re n

    —“The mistake was having you lead that rally, you yourself has said that you’re not a leader, we needed a leader there leading, someone who would have called out those who made that hand gesture and someone who would have realized immediately that handing over a mic to BLM would have alienated a quarter of your following, no one can blame you for doing the best you could in that time, we needed a leader, not a philosopher.”—by Josh Burda

    Thank you. The problem is finding one OR leaving control of the environment to security, and using every man possible (which might be better that a single leader. My instinct is that’s more succesful than putting up a heroic leader who will be crushed.)


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-12 09:28:00 UTC

  • PURITY, AND IT”S RIGHT VS RIGHT by Jennifer Dean Purity doesn’t negate agency, o

    PURITY, AND IT”S RIGHT VS RIGHT

    by Jennifer Dean

    Purity doesn’t negate agency, or loyalty, it reinforces both. It simply narrows the focus.

    Thinking again of the old churches here in the South, they periodically had some sort of conflict or feud and then part of the congregation would leave and form a new church. They are small congregations but mostly still very traditional and conservative.

    The larger congregations who didn’t feud and purge the membership often enough are generally the ones who have leaned more to the left as time went on.

    Packs vs. Herds.

    It’s hard to get populism or unity on the right. Trump pulled it off, but the common complaints now are mostly related to purity of association, having questionable people around him now or in the past, not draining the swamp enough or purging the ranks. Then there is a segment of Trump supporters who are so staunchly loyal they won’t brook with the slightest criticism of him (much less anything like “ending the presidency” and I know people who are willing to start a war if that is challenged.)

    So one form of purity means something like, what are the principles you live by and who do you associate with based on those principles. And the other form of purity is something more like, either you are with us or against us. And those are pretty much the same dynamics happening here with P.

    So I think the right overall, including the normie middle that leans right, is reorganizing around purity by association with at least two very different measures, possibly more than two but those are the main two I have identified.

    It essentially comes down to a question of loyalty to people, vs loyalty to principles, and how to bring the two into harmony so we can try to do both. And I have a sense that the next few years will hold some major conflict around that.

    Now for me personally I tend to hold principles a bit higher except where family or very close friends are concerned. I hold certain values that are fundamental to how I live my life, and I’m willing to lose friends over it if it comes to that. And I don’t take threats to those values lightly. I take them as a literal threat to my life the same as a physical threat.

    Then I see people who along with threatening my values, make literal threats against lives, potentially my own life or my own kin. These same people usually demand loyalty with the threat of death and make little to no attempts to negotiate or understand my perspective. I am usually pretty even-tempered about these things, I can even be quite friendly with people I consider threatening, but normie world does not work that way. They will lose their shit quick if they register a threat.

    I no longer believe any of this is really about the left vs. right. This is the right vs. right and the left only got out of control because the right is not cooperating with itself.

    To sum it up all I can really say is if you want something you have to be able to negotiate and make a deal that pretty well satisfies all parties.

    Talk of winning at all costs is not negotiation, it’s just terror.



    ( CD: Fascinating )


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-12 09:10:00 UTC

  • UPDATE 1) The ‘game’: While you get sick and tired of it, so does the enemy. And

    UPDATE

    1) The ‘game’: While you get sick and tired of it, so does the enemy. And … it worked. It always works. “Exhuast the Criticism”. Make them sick of the narrative. I did. Taleb does it even better than I do. He just has an educated audeience, and I have to do it with a working class audience.

    DISCOVERY

    2) I had to discover what was causing the right to fail because adversity means getting truth from them. I did. If it means I reinforce the negative aspects of my reputation that’s a cost I have to bear. Over time, this personality (which is not authentic) will remain a brand.

    3) I had to discover if john was right, he was: Social media won’t work b/c bad people vastly outnumber good. So all has to be done not by marketing FAST but by relationship building in person: SLOWLY. Too slowly to affect this election.

    4) I had to discover whether WN can be put on strategy rather than emotion. The young on SM can’t, and they’re the overwhelming majority. too emotional. not like the left, loyal no matter what, strategic, no matter what, goal oriented, no matter what.

    5) I had to discover if it’s generation gap. It isn’t it’s a maturity gap. SM is flooeded with lost children grasping at straws of self respect, honor, and pride while rome burns. It is. This means the dissident right is a purity spiral mob that cannot be put to use like the left mob can be. So I discovered that the right is an even worse mob than the left – one that does nothing.

    6) So together I had to discover if the 100k number was passible. if enough men across the conservatie spectrum can be animated to show up for policy that produces their wants, rather than satisfies their emotions. I can’t do it on social media.

    7) My strategy for rapid victory will only work, and work fast, if I can get 100k guys to show up for policy that holds the moral high ground and makes the state the enemy BUT the boys want to show up for identity that doesn’t – and identity asks OTHERS to come up with policy; those others are the enemy; so their strategy is inactionable AND makes the world the enemy. They want to rage as a tribe, not win as a polity.

    8) The universalism of the P-model will only work if we sell rule of law, the enemy is ((()) financial, media,and state that pit us against each other, and that we want to win for everyone.

    RESULTS?

    1) This means the team has to work with Social Media, (which is what you all want anyway) We have to divorce “marketing”(indirect) from “sales”(direct).

    2) And I have to choose between:

    (a) FAST: (“VIctory By Spring”) Taking the WN lead, explcitly WN, and Try to get the strategy to work as a set of demands rather than as ‘peaceful settlement’, (and ruining my life in the process.) And just suffering the manbois.

    -OR-

    (b) SLOW: focus on international nationalism-for-everyone and work across all countries rather than political activism in this country. Building an offline team of serious men. And Not suffering the manbois.

    -OR-

    c) SPLIT STRATEGY:

    … i) keep the team on social media, and;

    … ii) find some WN wants to take the FAST straegy (constitution as demands), and go out and lead with WN first, FAST, and the boys will certainly follow. I don’t know who that person would be. I would prefer it was someone in the middle or working classes that is more suited to macho messaging that the boys want.

    … iii) Stay international and intellectual myself, I know who the enemy is, and I want to defeat the enemy on a global scale. With USA necessary as the first battleground.Updated Jul 12, 2020, 9:03 AM


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-12 09:03:00 UTC

  • RT @LesterBPete1: @wilhelmconquers @curtdoolittle @ChadApollo2 @JFGariepy BBC is

    RT @LesterBPete1: @wilhelmconquers @curtdoolittle @ChadApollo2 @JFGariepy BBC is a debunked myth, but Curt made the concession to the BBC m…


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-12 02:42:10 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1282143184496320512

  • RT @LesterBPete1: @wilhelmconquers @curtdoolittle @ChadApollo2 @JFGariepy BBC is

    RT @LesterBPete1: @wilhelmconquers @curtdoolittle @ChadApollo2 @JFGariepy BBC is a debunked myth, but Curt made the concession to the BBC m…

  • (a) female, (b) insane, (c) I have enough of you manbois doing that already. 😉

    (a) female, (b) insane, (c) I have enough of you manbois doing that already. 😉

    Sorry. You set that up. But you put thought into it, and that’s more than most. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-12 02:40:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1282142700347764742

    Reply addressees: @LouisHBedford

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1282141540635283456

  • (a) female, (b) insane, (c) I have enough of you manbois doing that already. 😉

    (a) female, (b) insane, (c) I have enough of you manbois doing that already. 😉

    Sorry. You set that up. But you put thought into it, and that’s more than most. 😉

    Reply addressees: @LouisHBedford

  • RT @scottkemp3: @curtdoolittle My Opservation, You Invited Other People To Speak

    RT @scottkemp3: @curtdoolittle My Opservation, You Invited Other People To Speak There Peace, You Honord That, Every Thing They Said Was No…


    Source date (UTC): 2020-07-12 02:38:38 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1282142293168918529

  • RT @scottkemp3: @curtdoolittle My Opservation, You Invited Other People To Speak

    RT @scottkemp3: @curtdoolittle My Opservation, You Invited Other People To Speak There Peace, You Honord That, Every Thing They Said Was No…