Category: Civilization, History, and Anthropology

  • CULTURAL OBSERVATIONS : COMPLIMENTS You know, in the States, if you’re meeting s

    CULTURAL OBSERVATIONS : COMPLIMENTS

    You know, in the States, if you’re meeting some couple for dinner, it’s pretty much conventional to say “you look beautiful” or make some other compliment about the woman’s appearance or dress. At least, that’s how I was raised in New England. My sisters and mother beat into me the idea that you say something nice about a woman whenever possible.

    So last night I say to a woman here in Kiev, “You look beautiful”. To which she replies “I always look beautiful.” As if I was implying that tonight was a rarity.

    Now, Veronika has tried to explain this to me as a Ukrainian thing – its not just her. But I think most women I talk to here are just polite to me. I’m a crazy american after all. And I have that reputation here.

    Strangely, almost anything you say to a Ukrainian woman in complimentary form will not be just accepted as nicety, but often turned around into a perceived insult. I understand it’s just a means of preserving independence. And the women here are amazingly independent: they have to be.

    They also are pretty much aware that they’re the most amazing and beautiful women in the world, and so they hear a compliment differently. It’s like saying the sky is blue or something obvious of that nature.

    I don’t have a lot of insight to provide on this topic. Or, I don’t feel like getting all analytical over it. But it’s just one of those cultural things that’s fascinating: metaphysical value judgements that create the judgmental context for all communications.

    Humans are fascinating. šŸ™‚

    šŸ™‚


    Source date (UTC): 2013-11-30 04:59:00 UTC

  • TODD’S FAMILY SYSTEMS AND FARMS: COMMUNIST (TOTALITARIAN) Communitarian favors s

    TODD’S FAMILY SYSTEMS AND FARMS:

    COMMUNIST (TOTALITARIAN)

    Communitarian favors sharecropping (mƩtayage, fixed proportion of crop taken as rent, somewhat egalitarian)

    MANORIAL

    Absolute nuclear favors rent (fermage, fixed gold/silver rent, individualist families being already ā€œproletariat-likeā€ and less able to maintain a continuous property over generations, activity is already monetized)

    EXTENDED FAMILY

    Egalitarian nuclear favors large properties (grande exploitation, egalitarian families are less able to maintain evenly-split properties across generations, also ā€œproletariat-likeā€ but activity less monetized, less individual)

    FAMILY

    Stem favors family farms (propriƩtƩ, stem families are very apt at maintaining property across generations)


    Source date (UTC): 2013-11-30 04:18:00 UTC

  • THE ATHENIAN DEMOCRACY INVENTS INBREEDING? (badly translated from the french by

    THE ATHENIAN DEMOCRACY INVENTS INBREEDING?

    (badly translated from the french by me)

    “It is the Athenian democracy who invents inbreeding.”

    “It is not case that patrilineal endogamy we find in the history of Mesopotamia and the Middle East is the oldest. The only explanation, is that it was invented by the Greeks, who also later dropped it. The first case of proven patrilineal endogamy is in Athens, at the time of the flowering of democracy in the fifth century.

    Initially, the cause of this movement is a bit racist civic folding of the Greek city that Robert Lowie called the “pride of race”. The original ethnic democracy. Equality in a body of citizens is not defined as a universal dream, as discussed in France, but compared to men outside, which equates to barbarians.

    It’s like the current Israeli democracy. Equality body of citizens, it is also the inequality of those who are outside. Equal citizens body based on the fact that all this is preferable in that is outside. We can see how the idea of inbreeding can leave it. American democracy is always white Democracy.”


    Source date (UTC): 2013-11-29 16:52:00 UTC

  • EMMANUEL TODD’S FAMILY STRUCTURES (From HBD Chick) absolute nuclear family – no

    EMMANUEL TODD’S FAMILY STRUCTURES

    (From HBD Chick)

    absolute nuclear family

    – no cohabitation of married children with their parents

    – no precise inheritance rules; frequent use of wills

    – no marriage between the children of brothers

    – anglo-saxons, netherlands, denmark

    – christianity, capitalism, ā€˜libertarian’ liberalism, feminism

    egalitarian nuclear family

    – no cohabitation of married children with their parents

    – equality of brothers laid down by inheritance rules

    – no marriage between the children of brothers.

    – northern france, northern italy, central and southern spain, central portugal, greece, romania, poland, latin america, ethiopia

    – christianity (catholicism); the ā€œliberte, egalite, fraterniteā€ form of liberalism

    authoritarian family

    – cohabitation of the married heir with this parents

    – inequality of brothers laid down by inheritance rules, transfer of an unbroken patrimony to one of the sons

    – little or no marriage between the children of two brothers

    – germany, austria, sweden, norway, belgium, bohemia, scotland, ireland, peripheral regions of france, northern spain, northern portugal, japan, korea, jews, romany gypsies

    – edit 01/08/12: socialism/bureaucratic socialism or social democracy, catholicism. fascism sometimes, various separatist and autonomous (anti-universalist) movements (think german federalism)

    exogamous community family

    – cohabitation of married sons and their parents

    – equality between brothers defined by rules of inheritance

    – no marriage between the children of two brothers

    – russia, yugoslavia, slovakia, bulgaria, hungary, finland, albania, central italy, china, vietnam, cuba, north india (note that many of these countries, the eastern european ones, also have a tradition of marrying young)

    – communism, edit 01/08/12: socialism

    endogamous community family

    – cohabitation of married sons with their parents

    – equality between brothers established by inheritance rules

    – frequent marriage between the children of brothers

    – arab world, turkey, iran, afghanistan, pakistan, azerbaijan, turkmenistan, uzbekistan, tadzhikistan

    – islam

    asymmetrical community family

    – cohabitation of married sons and their parents

    – equality between brothers laid down by inheritance rules

    – prohibition on marriages between the children of brothers, but a preference for marriages between the children of brothers and sisters

    – southern India

    – hinduism; a variety of communism unlike that found elsewhere

    anomic family

    – cohabitation of married children with their parents rejected in theory but accepted in practice

    – uncertainty about equality between brothers: inheritance rules egalitarian in theory but flexible in practice

    – consanguine marriage possible and sometimes frequent

    – burma, cambodia, laos, thailand, malaysia, indonesia, philippines, madagascar, south-american indian cultures

    the eighth family type, which is additional to todd’s scheme (i.e. it doesn’t fit the three definitional dichotomies he uses, which maybe indicates a problem with his definitions?), is the african family. todd sort-of throws his hands up in the air and declares that african family systems are simply hopeless to understand (because they don’t fit his model) — and, anyway, there’s not enough data on them (which was prolly true in the early 1980s — and maybe still is now!). anyway, here’s all he has to say about the africans:

    african systems

    – instability of the household

    – polygyny


    Source date (UTC): 2013-11-29 07:55:00 UTC

  • THE EXTENDED FAMILY’S WAR ON INDIVIDUALISM –“communism is a transference to the

    THE EXTENDED FAMILY’S WAR ON INDIVIDUALISM

    –“communism is a transference to the party state of the moral traits and the regulatory mechanisms of the exogamous community family. Sapped by urbanization, industrialization and the spread of literacy, in short by modernization, the exogamous community family passes on its egalitarian and authoritarian values to the new society. Individuals with equal rights are crushed by the political system in the same way they were destroyed in the past by the extended family when it was the dominant institution of traditional Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese or Serbian society.” —


    Source date (UTC): 2013-11-29 06:50:00 UTC

  • OUTBREEDING, COUSIN MARRIAGE AND VIOLENCE I do understand that genetics are impo

    OUTBREEDING, COUSIN MARRIAGE AND VIOLENCE

    I do understand that genetics are important to the differences between groups, but I study institutions, not genes.

    “…To get rid of violence, you could get rid of clannishness. and to get rid of clannishness, you need to get rid of inbreeding. which is exactly what happened in medieval Europe starting in the early part of the period. the roman catholic church, supported by secular authorities, banned cousin and other close marriages beginning in 506.

    “Enforcement of the various cousin marriage bans, which ranged from first to sixth cousins depending on what century you’re talking about, wasn’t easy — at least not in the beginning. the church, for instance, didn’t require that a marriage ceremony take place in a church until something like 1000 or 1100, so enforcement by the church in the early middle ages was probably patchy at best.

    “However, there were LOTS of secular laws throughout nw Europe banning close marriage, including very much so in anglo-saxon England. just a couple of examples: the law of Wihtred from the 690s outlawed cousin marriage — and the punishment for cousin marriage in another anglo-saxon law from sometime the 900s-1000s was slavery for the perpetrators. again, difficult to know how well these laws were enforced; but that there were plenty of such laws indicates that the authorities were keen to do something about all this close marriage.

    “The law of Wihtred is, i think, the earliest anglo-saxon law that i’ve come across which made cousin marriage illegal (at least in the part of England where the law of Wihtred applied). so the push against inbreeding in anglo-saxon England started at least as early as 690 a.d. again, it may not have been very effective at that point, but England’s outbreeding project had begun by that point.

    “lorraine lancaster, still considered the authority on anglo-saxon kinship, concluded that, although its importance was beginning to wane (as indicated by a shift in who would be awarded wergeld in the event of a crime against a person, that person’s kinsmen or their guild), an individual’s extended kindred remained of importance in anglo-saxon/english society well into the 1000s. that suggests to me that ā€œclannishnessā€ was still around in the 1000s in England. feuding was definitely still a regular event.

    “The situation had changed quite a bit by the 1300s when nuclear families were all the rage and englishmen no longer relied so extensively on their extended families. people were still violent in 1300s England, but of course the shift from clannishness to non-clannishness — i.e. from violence to non-violence — would’ve taken some time. evolution doesn’t happen overnight.

    _____

    The state’s monopoly on violence and outbreeding don’t have to be mutually exclusive explanations for why there may have been a genetic change in nw europeans leading to a decline in violent behaviors. the answer might be both. like Jayman said…

    –ā€œInbreeding, and hence clannishness, can interfere with this process, because while the State is selecting for less violent people, clan conflict presents a counteracting selective pressure for people who are more violent (and can fight feuds).ā€–

    “…so in places where inbreeding has not abated or did not abate as early as in England — the arab world/middle east, china (or parts of it anyway), the highlands of Scotland, the Auvergne — the state hasn’t managed to quell violence as easily. the combo of outbreeding + an effective state seems to be a winning one. Better yet if you don’t need such a very strong state (modern nw Europe) and the population is just non-violent naturally.”

    -HBD_Chick and Jayman (Doing what academia seems to be afraid to.)


    Source date (UTC): 2013-11-29 06:19:00 UTC

  • (CORE)The Family Shrinks as Property and Wealth Expand

      (However) Primitive matrilineality (endogamous) Community Family (endogamous) Patriarchal Community Family (exogamous) Authoritarian Family Egalitarian Nuclear Family (~catholic) Absolute Nuclear Family (endogamous) (Anglo Saxon) Post-Marital Individual Family (endogamous) (Feminism) The Anglo Saxon Absolute Nuclear Family – no precise inheritance rules, frequent use of wills; – no cohabitation of married children with their parents; – no marriage between the children of brothers. “…think of England as being like this for at least 750 years. We live in small families. We buy and sell houses. … Our parents expect us to leave home for paid work …You try to save up some money from your wages so that you can afford to get married. … You can choose your spouse … It takes a long time to build up some savings from your work and find the right person with whom to settle down, so marriage comes quite lately, possibly in your late twenties.

  • (CORE)The Family Shrinks as Property and Wealth Expand

      (However) Primitive matrilineality (endogamous) Community Family (endogamous) Patriarchal Community Family (exogamous) Authoritarian Family Egalitarian Nuclear Family (~catholic) Absolute Nuclear Family (endogamous) (Anglo Saxon) Post-Marital Individual Family (endogamous) (Feminism) The Anglo Saxon Absolute Nuclear Family – no precise inheritance rules, frequent use of wills; – no cohabitation of married children with their parents; – no marriage between the children of brothers. “…think of England as being like this for at least 750 years. We live in small families. We buy and sell houses. … Our parents expect us to leave home for paid work …You try to save up some money from your wages so that you can afford to get married. … You can choose your spouse … It takes a long time to build up some savings from your work and find the right person with whom to settle down, so marriage comes quite lately, possibly in your late twenties.

  • Lotharingia. It matters

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f54_1337075813Watch Lotharingia.

    It matters.


    Source date (UTC): 2013-11-27 17:34:00 UTC

  • One Thousand Years Of The Anglo Saxon Absolute Nuclear Family

      ā€œThe English are descended from the Germanic conquerors who brought to England the ā€˜integrated nuclear family,’ in which nuclear families formed separate households, but stayed close to their relatives for mutual cooperation and defense. These people were illiterate, so we have no written records from those times, and we cannot know precisely how they organized their family life. But what we do know for sure is that over time the original Germanic family type developed into the ā€˜Absolute Nuclear Family,’ or ā€˜ANF,’ which we have today. It appears that the family type we have now has existed for about a thousand years.ā€ — America 3.0. p51