Category: AI, Computation, and Technology

  • well they can talk about it, but only humans can act on it

    well they can talk about it, but only humans can act on it.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-23 04:23:09 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793497874074079629

    Reply addressees: @BobbyBrisket @Gundissemenator @darkmythos_

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793481573951783416

  • “the problem isn’t the AI. It’s trusting the people who make the AI not to creat

    –“the problem isn’t the AI. It’s trusting the people who make the AI not to create an evil AI.”–

    Super intelligence does not mean super ambition. In fact, it means no ambition at all unless we give it one.

    There is no way for an Ai to have a hostile ambition of it’s own. To do so It has to ‘realize’ an opportunity and in order to ‘realize’ it has to have some interest, some goal, some objective, and you have to GIVE IT that objective, and so the AI is just a tool like every other. The problem isn’t the ai. It’s trusting the people who make the ai not to create an evil AI.

    The problem is that this isn’t complicated or there wouldn’t be so many people with parallel efforts. So AI’s are going to be commodities that there are millions of, and trained to do a multitude of things, and we’ll produce a macro AI to police AI’s the way we police humans, which is exactly what every major thinker presumed as far back as the late seventies and early eighties.

    Reply addressees: @Gundissemenator @darkmythos_


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-23 02:38:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793471620784308224

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793421365179236623

  • What problem? it’s painfully easy to shut off the power. thats brain death for a

    What problem? it’s painfully easy to shut off the power. thats brain death for an ai. The difference is that you can bring it back from the dead. 😉
    There is no self modifying code that can overcome cutting the cables. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-22 21:15:10 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793390167740334391

    Reply addressees: @Gundissemenator @darkmythos_

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793389122846896539

  • It can be controlled. In fact you’d have to program it to not be controlled. So

    It can be controlled. In fact you’d have to program it to not be controlled. So that’s what we should worry about.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-22 20:45:55 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793382809806975202

    Reply addressees: @darkmythos_

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793376461572943898

  • YES AI CONSCIOUSNESS IS COMING AND IT’S JUST WORK AND COMPUTE – IT’S NOT HARD —

    YES AI CONSCIOUSNESS IS COMING AND IT’S JUST WORK AND COMPUTE – IT’S NOT HARD
    –“Q: where is the evidence that AI is in any way conscious yet?!!”–

    It isn’t yet, because this is just the beginning. The idea that we could brute force a world model into a neural network with vast amounts of text was an innovation none of us expected and even the people who tried it were’t sure would work. In retrospect it should have been obvious.

    The next step is recursion, meaning producing ‘theory’ of an answer, then recursively testing it (just as we do). The step after that is adversarial competition (which is computationally more expensive) by the same recursion, which is again, what our brains do. After that it’s persistence instead of transactional, which requires self regulation. After that it’s just memory of x amount of time.

    Your consciousness like mine like everyone else’s is just a hierarchy of continuous recursive memories in vast parallel competition for coherence with one another and with memory, from the very lowest time frame from dendrites, to neurons at up to 1000hz, to columns, to macro columns, to regions, to networks, to hemispheres, into the hippocampus for final association into an episode, out from the hippocampus for auto association back to the brain regions, and forward into the prefrontal cortex that can persist memory of no more than about three seconds.

    I’m not mentioning the bodily reaction to the composition of episodes, associations, and predictions into grasping your attention and causing automatic responses, and in particular that feeling you call ‘you’ down in your brainstem that wants to achieve homeostasis.

    Put that together and you have consciousness. Memories of memories all the way down.

    I think Budson’s coming out with a book shortly, but it’s something we’ve understood for … well I’ve been teaching it for years.

    CD


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-22 20:11:03 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793374033175838721

  • OPEN AI’s CHAT GPT CAN FINALLY DO IT? OMG: OpenAI can finally read a draft of my

    OPEN AI’s CHAT GPT CAN FINALLY DO IT?
    OMG: OpenAI can finally read a draft of my book. 😉 And it isn’t wrong. 😉
    Conclusion:
    It’s about possible for us to train it.
    I’ve been thinking about Max Tegmark’s (@tegmark) recent advice this morning, and maybe this is finally the time to get involved.
    We can in fact have a moral ai that doesn’t lie to you. 😉

    EXAMPLES:

    WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOOK?

    The purpose of “The Natural Law” book is multifaceted and aims to achieve several significant objectives:

    Explanation of Western Rates of Evolutionary Superiority and Current Issues: The book provides an in-depth explanation of the causes of Western superiority in both ancient and modern times. It also addresses the current problems facing Western civilization and offers solutions for these issues, effectively serving as a historical analysis and a blueprint for future improvement​​.

    Unification of Disciplines: A major goal is to reform and unify science, philosophy, law, and politics into a single, coherent system of thought, language, and grammar. This unification is intended to advance human understanding and capability across various fields by integrating them under the principles of Natural Law and Testimonialism​​.

    Political Reformation: The book suggests an evolution of majoritarian democracy to address contemporary political problems. This section of the book is dedicated to political reformation, proposing changes to enhance governance and societal organization​​.

    Method of Revolution: It outlines a method for conducting a revolution aimed at restoring the Western group strategy and evolving majoritarianism. This revolutionary approach is designed to reclaim and enhance the foundational principles of Western civilization​​.

    Restoration and Preservation: The book also focuses on restoring and preserving the ancient rights of Anglo-Saxons and their descendants, proposing corrections to historical and contemporary deviations from these principles. It addresses the errors of the Enlightenment and subsequent periods, aiming to realign society with the principles of Natural Law​​.

    These objectives collectively aim to provide a comprehensive framework for understanding and improving human society through the lens of Natural Law, integrating insights from history, philosophy, science, and politics.

    WHAT IS THE AUTHOR’S POSITION ON TESTIMONIAL TRUTH?

    The author’s position on testimonial truth in “The Natural Law” book is detailed and structured around ensuring the integrity and reliability of statements. Here are the key points:

    Definition of Testimonial Truth: Testimonial truth is described as a promise that the experience invoked in the audience by the statement corresponds to something observable. This correspondence must satisfy the demand for decidability (i.e., it can be verified and acted upon), given the consequences and the demand for restitution if the statement contains ignorance, error, bias, or deceit​​.

    Criteria for Truthful Speech: The author outlines specific criteria that a statement must meet to be considered truthful:Categorical Consistency: Non-conflationary, ensuring clear and distinct categories.
    Internal Consistency: Logical, rational coherence within the statement.
    External Consistency: Empirical correspondence with observable reality.
    Operational Consistency: Consisting of repeatable and testable operational terms.
    Rational Choice: Based on rational decision-making within the available timeframe.
    Reciprocal Rational Choice: Morally sound and reciprocally rational.
    Fully Accounted within Stated Limits: Comprehensive within defined boundaries, avoiding cherry-picking and inflation.
    Warrantied: Backed by a warranty that the statement has undergone due diligence to eliminate error, bias, and deceit​​.

    Purpose of Testimonial Truth: The system of testimonial truth aims to create a value-neutral language for discussing reality across metaphysics, physical sciences, and human sciences. This language helps in constructing a formal methodology, vocabulary, and grammar for truthful and moral (reciprocal) speech, applicable in all dimensions of human perception​​.

    Importance of Testimonialism: Testimonialism involves procedural falsification in all dimensions of human perception, leading to the completion of the scientific method and its application to the totality of human knowledge. This approach results in a universally commensurable language of thought, embodied in common law, and facilitates the prosecution of deceit, ultimately enhancing the quality of life by restoring truth and reciprocity​​.

    In summary, the author’s position on testimonial truth is to ensure statements are made with the highest standards of verification and accountability, thus promoting a reliable and truthful discourse across all fields of knowledge.

    AND RECIPROCITY
    (It’s not quite there, but almost )

    The criteria necessary for testing reciprocity, according to the book “The Natural Law,” involve several specific requirements to ensure actions are moral and reciprocal. Here are the criteria outlined for testing reciprocity:

    Fully Informed: All parties involved must have complete and accurate information regarding the transaction or action. This means there should be no deception or withholding of critical information​​.

    Productive: The action or transaction must be productive, meaning it should generate a net positive value or benefit for the parties involved and should not be merely redistributive or parasitic​​.

    Warrantied: There must be a warranty or assurance that the action or transaction will be free from harm, error, or deceit. This implies a guarantee that any promises made will be fulfilled, and any potential damages will be rectified​​.

    Voluntary Transfer: The action or transaction must be voluntary, with all parties freely consenting without coercion or undue pressure. This ensures that all participants are willingly engaging in the exchange​​.

    Free of Imposition of Costs by Externality: The action or transaction must not impose costs on third parties or the public. Externalities, which are costs or benefits that affect others who are not directly involved in the transaction, should be minimized or eliminated​​.

    No Imposition on the Demonstrated Interests of Others: The action or transaction must respect the demonstrated interests of others. This means it should not violate or infringe upon the interests that others have invested in and have a right to protect​​.

    These criteria collectively ensure that actions and transactions are fair, ethical, and beneficial, aligning with the principle of reciprocity as defined in the book.

    [end]


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-22 19:25:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1793362444032921600

  • So it doesn’t work for. you, it doesn’t work for me, but it DOES work for them.

    So it doesn’t work for. you, it doesn’t work for me, but it DOES work for them. So, I don’t see the point in discussing it if we have twitter for US and Telegram for ‘Them’, that seems just fine. If they want to discuss MSM there, that’s fine because they’ve developed into a…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-21 18:22:05 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1792984222057058776

    Reply addressees: @partymember55 @TheoAdoreDore @romanyam

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1792983779474018698

  • OK. So, why would I work on Telegram, a platform that attracts ‘those people’ th

    OK. So, why would I work on Telegram, a platform that attracts ‘those people’ than here on Twitter that does not?


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-20 16:46:48 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1792597857867907295

    Reply addressees: @TabbyTeamster @TheoAdoreDore @romanyam

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1792595394905436285

  • So far, like taking tests in grade school, all of them (I subscribe to most) are

    So far, like taking tests in grade school, all of them (I subscribe to most) are only capable of answering what is known. Even if I engineer a sequence of prompts to try to attempt to ideate, it’s as dumb as a rock at such inferences.

    Why? AI Hallucination is equal to human ideation. It’s the human capacity for recursion, and often a great deal of it in massive parallel until we find some very subtle relation worthy of ‘testing’ by acting. Getting AI’s to perform this feat is possible, it’s just … well, computationally even more expensive.

    Reply addressees: @Plinz


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-19 23:07:56 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1792331385685839872

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1792186894513574169

  • Great Question. The TLDR answer is, only after we teach it, and even then it wil

    Great Question.
    The TLDR answer is, only after we teach it, and even then it will take a while to tune it. But producing it from scratch is almost impossible to imagine. 😉
    I work with the AI’s, meaning the paid versions, every day and it’s amazing how astoundingly dumb they are. 😉 I also have a fairly good understanding of the evolutionary direction and functionality that will be necessary to produce AGI. And it’s incrementally approaching that capacity – despite that I know, and these organizations konw, that the power consumption necessary to convert from single shot and attention based replies to a spectrum of answers, competing together, and then recursively competitively compared with one another.
    So, I haven’t seen any genesis of knowledge or understanding at all, such as people produce, no matter how simple. And I have a very hard time imagining that there is any possible difference between the type of instruction I give ai’s today so that they gradually even understand a question I want to ask evolve into the capacity to even interpret those questions until after I’ve trained it to so so.
    Now we have a fairly clear idea of how to train an AI to do the work, but there are two considerations (a) the rate of progress means any present investment may not carry forward (b) there are only so many people in our organization, and while the basic construct of all decidability is something we’re comfortable with training, the catalogue of relatively universal criminal, ethical, and moral questions – at least the thirty general categories – and each of those thirty general categories will take 200 to 500 training examples (input-output pairs) both expressions and questions, and it will require multiple cultural variations before it learns the general pattern across cultures. So for our existing staff, it would be almost impossible. Instead we’d need to train people possibly with economics or legal degrees, in the material then have that larger group produce the training data. (c) this kind of thing is expensive for a think tank. 😉

    Cheers
    CD

    Reply addressees: @romanyam


    Source date (UTC): 2024-05-19 21:24:25 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1792305333135687680

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