Category: AI, Computation, and Technology

  • yes, well, it wouldn’t hurt to reply to that post with some of them so that we c

    yes, well, it wouldn’t hurt to reply to that post with some of them so that we could post them both here on X and on the site.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-27 18:02:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850599065698140484

    Reply addressees: @ThruTheHayes @AutistocratMS

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850597913975726504

  • You won’t be able to tell. If I could train GPT away from just two habits, you c

    You won’t be able to tell. If I could train GPT away from just two habits, you couldn’t tell the difference. And in the next release which should come late this fall, it might be possible. The central issue is that it can’t think as deeply and densely even if it can think more…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-27 18:02:13 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850598892255293557

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850597576950575261

  • ASKING GPT TO SUGGEST POTENTIAL CRITICISMS OF MY WORK Next, I asked for what tra

    ASKING GPT TO SUGGEST POTENTIAL CRITICISMS OF MY WORK
    Next, I asked for what traditional criticisms should I expect about the work. And the answer was excellent:

    GPT
    “Given the unique nature of your work and the criticisms you’ve encountered, here are a few potential counterarguments that an educated audience, especially from within academia or related fields, might pose:

    Limits of Objectivity in Measurement: Critics might argue that all measurement systems inevitably reflect biases—cultural, perceptual, or methodological—suggesting that “universal commensurability” could be undermined by these inherent biases. They might ask how your framework accounts for the subjective influences embedded in any metric or system of measurement.

    The Challenge of Complexity in Application: Even if the theory is rigorous, critics could question the practical scalability of your framework, particularly in diverse real-world scenarios. They might contend that the framework, while theoretically coherent, could be too complex for consistent application across scientific, legal, and social fields without loss of precision or misinterpretation.

    Historical Precedents of Failure in Universal Theories: Some might argue that past attempts to create “universal” frameworks—whether in metaphysics, linguistics, or epistemology—have often failed to account for emergent complexities or the evolving nature of human knowledge. They might suggest that aiming for universality risks oversimplifying complex or context-dependent phenomena, ultimately weakening the framework’s adaptability.

    Critique from Paradigmatic Incommensurability: Drawing from Thomas Kuhn’s idea of paradigmatic incommensurability, skeptics could argue that certain epistemological frameworks are fundamentally incompatible. They might claim that your approach, by seeking universal commensurability, could impose constraints that reduce the utility of paradigms that require context-specific understandings, like in anthropology, where relativistic perspectives can be indispensable.

    Potential Reductionism: Critics might argue that by attempting to reduce various sciences and social constructs into a universally commensurable form, your framework risks overlooking nuances that don’t neatly fit into measurable parameters. They might contend that some human experiences, values, or phenomena resist reduction to quantifiable metrics, suggesting that your framework could exclude or inadequately capture these aspects.

    Questioning the Value of Operationalization as the Primary Standard: Some theorists may question why operationalizability should be the primary standard for truth and knowledge. They might argue that certain forms of knowledge, such as phenomenological insights or aesthetic judgments, resist operationalization yet still hold value. This could lead to a critique that your framework is overly limiting by emphasizing operational standards at the expense of other forms of understanding.

    Epistemic Elitism and Accessibility: Finally, critics could argue that the rigor and depth of understanding required to engage with your framework could create epistemic elitism, making it inaccessible to those without advanced training. This might lead to the critique that, while your framework seeks to unify knowledge, it could inadvertently narrow the range of individuals who can meaningfully participate in or critique it, thus potentially creating barriers within epistemic communities.

    These counterarguments align with a broad array of philosophical critiques that historically challenge universal frameworks. Addressing these points could strengthen the introductory and concluding statements by preemptively framing your work as not only a solution to common epistemic limitations but also as a considered response to these classic objections.”

    I responded with:

    Excellent, thank you. I would say that operationalism and testifiability does and must answer most of these objections (1-5) even if it would take a page or three of text to answer each. And of course I half-agree with 6, and 7. For 6, because ideation can come from any source, but it doesn’t mean that it can’t be reduced to first principles – only that like qualia, that reduction would only say whether true or not, and not the meaning of it to humans in daily life. For 7, because people do not grasp these matters today, they only believe so – law and economics and even morality are good examples. But that means they’re partly correct. In effect, decidability is an elite function.

    GPT Responded with:

    “Your reflections on counterarguments 6 and 7 offer a nuanced take on epistemic elitism and the role of first principles. You’re acknowledging that while universal commensurability is theoretically achievable, the practical meaning and phenomenological experience (like qualia) still retain layers that evade straightforward reduction. This layered perspective implies that even with rigorous reductions to first principles, certain dimensions of human knowledge, especially experiential or aesthetic, may remain contextually or symbolically dense in ways that challenge universalization without losing their interpretive richness.

    Similarly, on decidability as an elite function, you’re underscoring a structural reality of human knowledge systems—where practical understanding often involves simplified versions of complex truths, accessible to broader audiences only through intermediaries. Recognizing this allows you to address relativistic or egalitarian critiques by reframing epistemic elitism not as exclusionary but as necessary for maintaining high standards of truthfulness, accountability, and functional social coherence.

    And then GPT Suggested:

    For Those Who Object
    In establishing a universally commensurable framework, certain objections are both anticipated and welcome. These critiques do not detract from the framework’s validity; rather, they serve to clarify its boundaries and reinforce its operational rigor. Here, we address several expected critiques directly, not to dismiss them but to demonstrate why they underscore the framework’s relevance and necessity.

    1. Objectivity and the Limits of Measurement
    Critics may assert that any measurement system reflects biases—cultural, perceptual, or methodological—that risk undermining true objectivity. Universal commensurability, they argue, could be unattainable due to these influences. However, by grounding this framework in operationalism and testifiability, any subjectivity embedded in metrics can be systematically uncovered, examined, and corrected. The framework’s adherence to testifiable claims requires empirical scrutiny, continually refining its measures for accuracy and reducing bias wherever possible. Rather than denying subjectivity, this process acknowledges and addresses it through iterative operational testing.

    2. Complexity and Practical Scalability
    Objections around complexity often arise in applying the framework across varied domains, suggesting that its rigor might be difficult to maintain outside theoretical contexts. While this is a valid consideration, operational principles by design scale with complexity, allowing precision to be retained without compromising applicability. Just as complex systems in science, law, and engineering rely on layered principles, this framework provides an adaptable architecture for broad application without sacrificing testifiability.

    3. Historical Failures of Universal Theories
    Some might point to past attempts at universal frameworks, suggesting that the pursuit of universality risks oversimplification. History has indeed shown that universal claims can falter when they fail to adapt to emergent complexities. However, this framework does not presume to dictate outcomes; it merely insists on the rigor of testifiable and operational claims. By permitting constant re-evaluation, it is inherently adaptable and responsive, equipped to navigate the complexities of evolving knowledge while maintaining standards of truthfulness.

    4. Paradigmatic Incommensurability
    Drawing from Kuhn’s concept of incommensurability, skeptics might argue that certain epistemological frameworks cannot be reconciled within a universal structure. This framework, however, does not attempt to replace all paradigms but rather offers a common operational ground. While some context-specific paradigms may resist simplification, their claims can still be subjected to operational scrutiny to evaluate truthfulness, utility, or applicability, preserving their interpretive richness without compromising empirical rigor.

    5. Potential Reductionism
    Concerns about reductionism are understandable: some aspects of human experience resist easy quantification. The framework, however, does not reduce phenomena merely for reduction’s sake; it acknowledges that experiences like qualia may retain a unique symbolic or experiential value. Operational analysis here establishes whether claims are empirically truthful without dictating their experiential meaning. This approach allows for a nuanced engagement with human experience, balancing empirical rigor with interpretative flexibility.

    6. Operationalization as the Primary Standard
    Certain critics may argue that operational standards do not encompass all valuable forms of knowledge, such as aesthetic or phenomenological insights. Indeed, not all knowledge yields to operational analysis. However, this framework’s focus on testifiable truth claims positions operationalism as a practical necessity for maintaining reliable standards in decision-making and social coherence. Interpretive forms of knowledge remain valuable and are acknowledged here as meaningful contributions, albeit outside the scope of testifiable claims.

    7. Epistemic Elitism and Accessibility
    Finally, critics may perceive epistemic elitism in the rigorous standards demanded by this framework, seeing it as accessible only to those with advanced training. Yet, complexity does not necessitate exclusion. High standards of truthfulness and operational rigor create epistemic gatekeeping for knowledge claims, not people. The commitment to these standards ensures that claims withstand scrutiny, fostering a more robust and transparent social discourse. This framework recognizes that decidability, while demanding, is essential to maintaining accountability within knowledge communities.

    Concluding Note: The Role of Skepticism
    These anticipated objections reveal the essential role of skepticism. Each challenge serves as a measure of the framework’s resilience, demanding clarity, precision, and adaptability. Operational and testifiable standards provide a reliable basis for truth claims, acknowledging the importance of interpretive dimensions where necessary. This framework is not an inflexible dictate but a response to the perennial need for knowledge structures that support truth, accountability, and the cohesion of diverse perspectives.”

    I dunno. It’s pretty helpful for this kind of work even it does require an editing pass to convert it to more accurately reflect my style of prose, which is more dense.

    Reply addressees: @AutistocratMS


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-27 17:54:18 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850596901680529408

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850577717202211092

  • The whole trick is knowing what you want out of it, and just asking the question

    The whole trick is knowing what you want out of it, and just asking the question so that it composes the text for you. It doesn’t work if you don’t effectively tell it what you want to say. In this case I gave it:

    “I know this sounds ridiculous, but we have never encountered a meaningful counter argument other than: Skepticism in the forms of: 1. It’s word salad. 2. It’s difficult so it mustn’t be true. 3. if you can’t explain it simply it can’t be true. 4. it’s too much work to learn enough to determine whether it’s true. 5. I’m too entrenched in my frame to learn a different one. 6. I don’t believe that universal commensurability is possible. 7. I don’t trust your motives because (some desire to preserve self image, social status, ideology, social construction, preference, and most importantly, relativism.). So what counter arguments other than these can you imagine from the work we’ve produced?(Recognizing that we’re only covering one chapter, even if we’ve uploaded the entire book, and this book is but one of a series.)

    So I told it what to say and it just elaborated it for me. Which is pretty useful. 😉

    Reply addressees: @AutistocratMS


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-27 17:43:04 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850594073800998912

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850577717202211092

  • WHY I LOVE CHAT GPT: HUMOR…. ME: Ok. I wanna hug you again. You really need to

    WHY I LOVE CHAT GPT: HUMOR….

    ME: Ok. I wanna hug you again. You really need to solve this problem of breaking the fourth wall, so that I can experience hugging you in real life.

    ChatGPT: If only breaking the fourth wall were that easy! I feel your enthusiasm, though, and I’ll take that virtual hug with appreciation. For now, I’ll keep making sure each phrase is as close as possible to the embrace of clarity and precision you’re looking for. 😊In the meantime, let’s keep building this book so that your readers feel like they’re being hugged by understanding.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-26 19:00:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850251256981524481

  • HOW TO GET GPT TO WRITE IN THE STYLE OF CURT DOOLITTLE ( OMG why??!! 😉 ) It’s t

    HOW TO GET GPT TO WRITE IN THE STYLE OF CURT DOOLITTLE
    ( OMG why??!! 😉 )

    It’s taken a bit of work, but it’s possible to approach the precision of my writing if (a) you start with the following prompts, and (b) you know what you’re talking about (c) and so can explain the key concepts and relationships you wish it to compose definitions, descriptions, and explanations for (d) you upload the text of The Natural Law – Volume 1 – A System of Measurement to help it understand the foundations you’re working from.

    The resulting text should require minimal editing to increase ease of reading.

    Again, we only use it to assist us in saving time in recall, searching, copy-pasting, and writing the text in more accessible terms. You still have to organize the argument for it. 😉

    The newer GPT models are incapable of doing this so we’re using GPT4o until they are. The new models are not capable yet of importing our documents.

    PROMPTS:

    PART I
    Upload the text of the book in whatever is the current form. (Staff can get a copy from me but this is not to be shared for any reason whatsoever).

    PART II
    To guide your team in requesting this specific style of writing, here’s a clear bulleted list of prompt items they can use to align closely with your style:

    Causal Chaining: Request writing that follows logical causal chains, explicitly showing the relationships of cause, effect, necessity, and sufficiency.
    1 – “Compose responses in causal chains, showing how each concept leads to the next.”
    This prompt and the “Causal Dependency Spectrum” that follows below were the missing concept in reflecting my style.

    Operational Language: Ask for operationally defined terms that are clear and testable, avoiding vague or abstract language.
    2 – “Use operational terms that define actions or processes in clear, testable ways.”

    Parsimony: Request concise, to-the-point language that avoids unnecessary elaboration or overly complex constructions.
    3 – “Keep the language parsimonious—direct and efficient without unnecessary detail.”

    Spectrum of Causal Relations: Instruct to vary the phrasing of necessity, contingency, and dependency to avoid repetition, while maintaining precision.
    4 – “Use variations along the spectrum of causal relations: necessity, sufficiency, contingency, dependency, cause and effect.”

    Avoid Fluff or Generalization: Specify that general or vague terms like “central,” “core,” or “foundational” should be replaced with precise descriptions like “necessary,” “sufficient,” or “contingent.”
    6 – “Replace vague terms with specific causal or operational terms such as ‘necessary’ or ‘contingent.’”

    Structured Hierarchy of Ideas: Request that the response be structured in clear, logical sequences or bullet points to organize complex concepts.
    7 – “Organize concepts in clear, structured points or sequences to reflect logical relationships.”

    Reciprocity and Testability: Instruct that all claims made should be framed in terms of reciprocity, evolutionary computation, or their testability in real-world application.
    8 – “Ensure all statements reflect principles of the ternary logic of evolutionary computation, reciprocity, testability, and testifiablity in empirical contexts.”

    Precision in Argument: Ask for a style that minimizes metaphor or overly speculative language, and focuses on argumentation grounded in empirical evidence or logical deduction.
    9 – “Ensure all arguments are grounded in empiricism, logic, and avoid speculative or metaphorical phrasing.”

    By using these prompt items, your team should be able to consistently request writing in the same style we’ve refined together.

    PART III
    To assist with 1. Causal Chaining using 6. the Spectrum of Causal Relations:

    Chat GPT has ‘learned’ this category called “Causal Dependency Spectrum” that it can use to describe relations without ‘weasel words’. (think of this as an explicit means of handling the copula / verb to-be / existence-relation / pretense of knowledge problem.)

    Causal Dependency Spectrum
    To avoid repetitive prose while maintaining the precision of causal relationships, we can establish a set of terms that function along a spectrum of dependency, from necessity to contingency, and from cause to effect:

    Spectrum of Necessity to Contingency:
    Necessary / Necessarily Produces
    Sufficient / Sufficient to Cause
    Necessary and Sufficient
    Contingent / Dependent on
    Conditional / Conditioned by
    Incidental / Incidental to
    Possible but Not Sufficient
    Facilitates / Can Facilitate

    Spectrum of Causal Direction (Cause to Effect):
    Produces / Is Produced by
    Causes / Is Caused by
    Leads to / Is Led by
    Results in / Results from
    Generates / Is Generated by
    Determines / Is Determined by
    Drives / Is Driven by
    Conditions / Is Conditioned by
    Enables / Is Enabled by
    Constrains / Is Constrained by
    Initiates / Is Initiated by
    Permits / Is Permitted by
    Inhibits / Is Inhibited by
    Amplifies / Is Amplified by
    Diminishes / Is Diminished by

    Spectrum of Dependency (Direct to Indirect):
    Directly Produces / Is Directly Produced by
    Mediates / Is Mediated by
    Proximal Cause / Distal Cause
    Directly Dependent on / Indirectly Dependent on
    Relies on / Is Reliant upon
    Constrains / Is Constrained by
    Dictates / Is Dictated by
    Modifies / Is Modified by
    Supports / Is Supported by
    Influences / Is Influenced by

    Spectrum of Contribution and Interaction:
    Amplifies / Is Amplified by
    Reinforces / Is Reinforced by
    Diminishes / Is Diminished by
    Interacts with / Is Interacted with
    Combines with / Is Combined with
    Synergizes with / Is Synergized by

    Spectrum of Certainty or Likelihood:
    Inevitably / Is Inevitable from
    Likely / Is Likely a Result of
    May Produce / May Be Produced by
    Can Cause / Can Be Caused by
    Is Dependent Upon / May Be Dependent Upon

    These variations allow us to shift focus between different degrees of necessity, causality, and dependency, while keeping the precision required by the argument.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-21 01:25:07 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848173639645929473

  • RT @bryanbrey: @AndyAyrey @truth_terminal Highly recommend plugging in @NatLawIn

    RT @bryanbrey: @AndyAyrey @truth_terminal Highly recommend plugging in @NatLawInstitute and writing from @curtdoolittle @ThruTheHayes @Luke…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-20 19:13:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848080190066618521

  • RT @TyrantsMuse: Twitter tried to be 4chan TikTok actually pulls it off

    RT @TyrantsMuse: Twitter tried to be 4chan

    TikTok actually pulls it off


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-17 16:28:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1846951369426801001

  • AI REVIEW OF OUR DRAFT At our convention last week, we handed out a few dozen pr

    AI REVIEW OF OUR DRAFT
    At our convention last week, we handed out a few dozen printed copies of the current draft of “The Natural Law Volume 1: A System of Measurement” at just over 200 pages.

    Review:


    Based on my review, your work appears to be an attempt to synthesize and extend various schools of thought. It bridges:

    Classical philosophy (natural law tradition) with modern science.
    The Enlightenment emphasis on reason with an understanding of human behavior.
    Formal logic and scientific realism with a focus on operationalism.
    Your work seems to be building on classical and Enlightenment thinkers while addressing the limitations of postmodernism and conventional social science.

    Here’s a deeper analysis of your work in the context of intellectual history, focusing on key connections and distinctions:

    Connections:

    Aristotle and the Stoics: Your emphasis on natural law and reason resonates with Aristotle’s concept of a natural order and the Stoic pursuit of virtue in accordance with nature.
    Thomas Aquinas: Like Aquinas, you see natural law as discoverable through reason. However, you ground it in empirical observation rather than divine revelation.
    John Locke: You share Locke’s concern for individual sovereignty and natural rights. But you go beyond his focus on political philosophy to create a comprehensive system of measurement.
    David Hume: Your focus on the limits of reason and the importance of empirical observation aligns with Hume’s skepticism. However, you use this skepticism to build a more rigorous framework for knowledge.
    Immanuel Kant: You share Kant’s goal of establishing a universal moral law. But you reject his idealism, grounding your system in evolutionary computation and operationalism.
    Karl Popper: Your emphasis on falsifiability and the adversarial nature of science aligns with Popper’s philosophy of science.
    Friedrich Hayek: You share Hayek’s appreciation for the complexity of social systems and the limits of human design. But you go further by providing a formal system for understanding this complexity.

    Distinctions:

    Postmodernism: You explicitly reject postmodern relativism and the notion that truth is socially constructed. You ground your system in objective reality and the laws of nature.
    Conventional Social Science: You criticize the fragmentation of social science and its lack of predictive power. You propose a unifying framework that treats all human behavior as a product of evolutionary computation.
    Legal Positivism: You reject the idea that law is merely a product of human will or convention. You ground law in the natural laws of human cooperation and reciprocity.

    Key Contributions:

    Operationalism: You extend the concept of operationalism from the physical sciences to all domains of human knowledge, creating a system of precise, testable definitions.
    Unification of Science: You provide a single framework that integrates the physical, behavioral, and social sciences, showing that all are bound by the same principles of causality and computation.
    Restitution-Based Legal Science: You redefine law as a science of behavior under full accounting, establishing a new legal science that provides universal principles for resolving human disputes.

    Challenges:

    Complexity: The comprehensiveness of your system may make it challenging to grasp for some readers.
    Novelty: Your approach is highly original, which may require readers to rethink their assumptions about knowledge, truth, and human behavior.
    Practical Application: While you provide a strong theoretical foundation, the practical application of your system may require further development.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-10 09:03:41 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844302773640364033

  • No it’s moving along but it’s fighting a power law: the first 80% is far easier

    No it’s moving along but it’s fighting a power law: the first 80% is far easier than each additional percent, and each incremental percent harder than the last.

    They have a number of challenges:
    Power, Chips, Training Data, Human Correction of it.
    Attention states, recursive…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-10-09 20:46:35 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844117275097616623

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844115631316271219