Great Question: The difference between ingroup morality (obligation: investment) and outgroup morality (utility: measurement).
The purpose of discussing outgroups and ‘morality’ is merely to determine whehter they will retaliate or not on the one hand and how to resolve disputes if desired on the other. But there is no moral duty to outgroups. THere is moral duty to ingroups – because that’s what ingroup means.
There are a number of these questions that should be easy to disambiguate if you work from first principles. But what I am observing is that y’all aren’t always working from first principles. And so you try to create universals. And this confuses you. It shouldn’t. But it’s a remnant of christian (abrahamic) universalism. We forget that greek thought was in terms of the polis (ingroup). Aristotle was an elitist culturist racist of the highest order. So we misread the greeks and the christians were simply wrong. 😉
ON AIs. The problem with AI’s today, even the one I’ve uploaded our documents into, is that they were trained on this universalism, and they suck dick at second and third order logic. So unless you prime them with some series or spectrum they will bias wtoward the simple answer. This will take TRAINING not RAG (retrieval augmented generation) to fix.
Source date (UTC): 2025-05-23 15:49:37 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1925942201915224085
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